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WesleyInman
06-21-2013, 11:58 AM
Swole Source Mods- I'm posting this here with the best of intent. If it is not appropriate in this Forum, please feel free to delete, thank you!!

I'm very happily Beta-Testing the new "EPISTANE ANDRO RX" made by Iron Mag Labs.

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u579/StrongmanAlbum/epiandrobetatest_zps205ea0c6.jpg (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/StrongmanAlbum/media/epiandrobetatest_zps205ea0c6.jpg.html)

I should first say thank you to Robert DiMaggio, PJ Braun and the rest of the IML/BL crew for giving me another product to test out.

I may sound redundant repeating a few things in this Log, compared to the Trenabol my previous Beta test, but I want to clarify for new viewers.

**I am not sponsored by or paid by IML/BL for doing this. I am sponsored by Prescription Nutrition @rxwhey.com** Best tasting and quality protein on the market IMO.

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My Background:
-20+ years of weight training experience
-17 years of competing
-Sponsored Athlete
-Lightweight Strongman Competitor
-Compete in Bodybuilding, Highland Games, Powerlifting and looking to go back into amateur Boxing/MMA possibly this year.
-Various 1st place awards, titles, 2 National records
-Employed by Worlds Strongest Man, America's Strongest Man, NAS, Europa etc as Judge/Event Coordinaator, etc..Have been working at WSM venues since 2008.
-Expert Personal and Strength Trainer (17 years)
-Online Supplement Store owner
-Mod/Site Admin/Site Director on several popular forums since 2001.

-I have been licensed in my State previous to Administer Medications (not prescribe) so I do have advanced understanding of pharmacology and endocrinology
-Post Grad Medical Training as well
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MY Stats (current)
2013 is my 17th year of competition, originally I was primarily a BBer.
5/7" 207lbs on 6/21/2013..will include a Before and After shot as well.
Bench Press: 440x1. 315x16 reps
Deadlift- 675 on olympic. 900 rack pull
Squat- 675 ATG, 405x20, 765x1 (PL Style w belt and wraps)
Front Squat- ATG- 500x2
Military Press- Dumbells 140lbs per hand x 10 reps
Clean- 315 (not olympic, full clean)
40yd dash (track spikes timed 3.9-4.1 timed)
vertical leap- 44" current

I have competed both Naturally and Un-naturally, and have broad experience with AAS/PH/HGH/PEDs

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Epi Andro

What this product is IN MY OPINION
Essentially a PreCursor to STANOLONE..aka DHT.

I have never used this product before, but I do know quite a bit about DHT

1st ingredient STANOLONE precursor aka DHT
DHT-
-Has been used in the medical community and shown long term to have growth effects on the penis.
-Has been used to increase Male Libido, due to the increases in Erection quality
-Potentially believed to cause hair loss and acne as main side effects
-Is not believed to be liver toxic at all
-It is believed that increases in DHT causes potential enlargement of Prostate, but contradictory it is used to treat Prostate Enlargement in the medical community
-4x stronger then Tesosterone
-Used to eliminate and reduce GYNO..ie it does not convert to estrogen
-Believed to improve overall mood, muscle density, sexual health, strength

2nd ingredient in EPI ANDRO
6,7 dihydroxybergamottin
My understanding of this is it is essentially a grapefruit extract.

In lamens terms for those of you who do not know, taking certain medications and supplements with grapefruit juice has been "proven" to increase a products biovailability. This is not open for discussion, this is a well known fact. So including this product in my opinion is IML's attempt in making a more effective product in the fact that you will get a better absorption rate of it's primary ingredient, therefore making it much more potent. It is an ANABOLIC AMPLIFIER in my opinion.

3rd ingredient
Piperine (black pepper extract)
Think OC spray, aka super strong pepper spray
This is a nutrient and supplement uptake product. It is known to help at a rate of up to 60% improvment of aborption. Piperine is involved to increase the absorption of other nutrients in the body and has other novel applications as well - such as helping to fight colon cancer and having an anti-depressant effect while enhancing the cognitive functions of the brain. No known toxicity.


So basically, this is a DHT product with a strategic DELIVERY system built in.
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My beta test will start Monday June 24th.

In the meantime, I will be taking 1 pill, 2x per day with food and additional water to frontload.

Once my beta test starts I will be doing

4pills per day. Likely 2 in the am and 2 in the mid afternoon..I will try with food at first and then without and see what happens.

I will be posting regarding the following:
Strength
Muscle Hardness
Size
Endurance
Cardio Function
Vascularity
Aggression
Anger
Depression
Overall Mood
Acne
Oily Skin
Changes in mood/temperment
Agression in the Gym
How this effects Sex
Sex Drive
Any sexually related issues
Nightmares
Night Sweats
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves
Hair thinning
Hair Darkening
Hair growth

I will be doing a full scale breakdown of this product. Like my Trenabol beta test, IML and BL have given me free range to speak my mind. I will list and sides, positives, negatives. If this product is a POS I will say so. It this product is Pure Gold. I will say so. I am not paid to endorse this product in any way shape or form.

My understanding of this product, is from other users, they have compared it to Masteron, Anavar, Halo, Winny..etc...

I cannot say yet what this compares to if anything. But I will provide the best info I can to you guys. I will get pics/videos/befores and afters and updates.

Please feel free to ask any questions you want in regards to this product. I will do my best to answer any and all questions you may have.

I look forward to giving you guys a legit understanding of this product. Please support me by subscribing to my log and following me for the next 33 days :)

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!

LBC-83
06-21-2013, 12:04 PM
IN

burlyman30
06-21-2013, 12:09 PM
Cool. Look forward to hearing more.

machdaddy
06-21-2013, 12:31 PM
In for the ride.

naeydrin
06-21-2013, 12:37 PM
Interesting, will be following.

O_RYAN_007
06-21-2013, 03:30 PM
So you'll be running this completely solo?

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 04:52 PM
Dude, you ran a 3.9 40 yd dash? That's faster than any NFL player ever.

nate3993
06-21-2013, 07:08 PM
awesome. can we see a clear pic of the ingredient panel and dosages? i love looking at hormone nomenclature.like for real. i'm not bs'ing. i like to see that shit. thanks!

DJM
06-21-2013, 07:14 PM
Dude, you ran a 3.9 40 yd dash? That's faster than any NFL player ever.

44inch vertical is other worldly when compared to nba players, very impressive

WesleyInman
06-21-2013, 07:39 PM
Thanks so much to everyone here for following :)


So you'll be running this completely solo?
Essentially..My BW shows me at around an 800nanogram test level....

I will be using Prescription Nutrition Products, Protein, creatine, all in. I commonly mix my all in with ECA, I use omegas and glutamine as well...But I use those all the time, so my gains if I get them I will be able to pinpoint on this product. It gives a better overall review IMO. Someone running AAS or other compounds certainly could not pinpoint the dynamics of a product if they were running multiple compounds.

I have a solid PCT for afterward, or I will run another PH after this, not sure yet


Dude, you ran a 3.9 40 yd dash? That's faster than any NFL player ever.
Yes in spikes and on a track, I went to college on a track scholarship and am a Gold Medal recipient National and State Level. My events were 100,200,long jump. Any top track star will beat 99.9% of NFL players in a sprint.


awesome. can we see a clear pic of the ingredient panel and dosages? i love looking at hormone nomenclature.like for real. i'm not bs'ing. i like to see that shit. thanks!
Yes I will post up by Sunday. On laptop now and its difficult to access photobucket.


44inch vertical is other worldly when compared to nba players, very impressive
Thanks man. Again just like the speed I was born with, God given gift. Add in years of heavy squatting and explosive movements and you get good results. I fully intend to get some video footage at the track during this log :) I personally have approached Kevin Levrone about a foot race..just for fun...have not heard back yet. Strongman vs Bodybuilder would be pretty cool.

DJM
06-21-2013, 07:41 PM
saw when levrone raced chambers, guy can move

DJM
06-21-2013, 07:44 PM
james jett was an olympian but only ran 4.27 for the raiders

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 08:00 PM
Yes in spikes and on a track, I went to college on a track scholarship and am a Gold Medal recipient National and State Level. My events were 100,200,long jump. Any top track star will beat 99.9% of NFL players in a sprint.

Awesome

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 08:01 PM
james jett was an olympian but only ran 4.27 for the raiders

I guess it's all about how fast you are with pads on.

DJM
06-21-2013, 08:02 PM
no pads in the 40

Grape Ape
06-21-2013, 08:53 PM
Profile looks a bit underdosed. In to follow though?

I'm sure your experienced here, but for the record, what other DHT prohormones/AAS have you used?

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 08:54 PM
no pads in the 40

I meant on the field.

DJM
06-21-2013, 09:09 PM
I meant on the field.

sorry im retarded, and agree totally..........raiders picks havent exactly helped them, when other 'quick' guys pile up yards without great combine numbers

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 09:37 PM
sorry im retarded, and agree totally..........raiders picks havent exactly helped them, when other 'quick' guys pile up yards without great combine numbers

Yeah, Jamarcus Russell is a prime example of that.

HIXX504
06-21-2013, 09:38 PM
Of a bad draft pick

DJM
06-21-2013, 09:39 PM
bay lollololo

nate3993
06-21-2013, 09:49 PM
Profile looks a bit underdosed. In to follow though?

I'm sure your experienced here, but for the record, what other DHT prohormones/AAS have you used?

profile look underdosed? where are you seeing the ingredient panel?

Grape Ape
06-21-2013, 10:47 PM
Saw it some where last week. Think a google search brought me to the IML forums.

WesleyInman
06-22-2013, 08:28 AM
The ingredient panel can be seen here :
IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements Prohormones: Epi-Andro Rx (http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/epi-andro-rx/)


Profile looks a bit underdosed. In to follow though?

I'm sure your experienced here, but for the record, what other DHT prohormones/AAS have you used?
I can't say what a proper dosage of this would be, since I have not experienced this compound..but the delivery system and grapefruit extract I am sure will increase its potency. Also I will be doing 4 caps per day, so I am doubling the "standard dosage."

As for DHT type compounds, I have past experience with Masteron, Winny, Proviron, and Halotestin, all of whose effects have been said to been experienced on "stanolone" type products, but only time will tell :)

As for the questions on track runners and NFL players. I actually get that question/comparison all the time. Take someone like myself versus Usain Bolt. Myself being merely a National Level runner, Bolt being a World renowned runner. Bolt is 6foot 6 or so. I am 5'7". My acceleration is much quicker then his and alot of Top level sprinters. So my 40 and 55 indoor time are World renowned level. When I get to the 100meter mark ,and a 200meter mark, I cannot keep the same stride or speed as someone like him, so my times are no where close. My best time in the 100m, is 10.2ish...which is good but cant compete with the 9's being run nowadays.

Figured I'd explain. People often question the idea, but once explained then they can make sense of it.

I do have full plans to get a 4.0 in a 40 on video on this log :) I do intervals as my cardio during summer years. 100meter sprints, walk 200m, sprint 100, walk 200.cycles. Adds nice size and strength to the legs.

Heres a recent leg video to show some of my routines i do for leg training.
Strongman Wesley Inman vs. Squat Police with Prescription Nutrition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9vJKA_h7m0)

Day 1 update:

I started 1 tab 2x yesterday. Again I am going to do this for the first 3 days just to get the compound in my system. I also want to rest my body because I trained super heavy this week. I worked up to Front squats 455x5 and 500 for a few singles, and truth be told I irritated the bone in my right shoulder, maybe bruised it.

Anyways, after both doses of 1 capsule, within an hour I felt nice and warm, a sense of feeling "strong" and almost a slight aggression. I certainly can "feel" this compound instantly but I really wont have an idea of what this product is capable of until I start lifting with it on Monday.

My goal with this product is to try and add a small amount of size, gain hardness, more vascularity, but my #1 goal is to gain strength. I'm super excited for that possibility.

In Strongman, we often do feats of strength just for fun, circus acts per say. I used to see my training partner Poundstone and McCLure do these, so I began trying them for fun. I'll share a few with you guys.

Hammer Break
Strongman Wesley Inman Hammer Break @ Home Depot - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAD8EGPiWAs)

Frying Pan Roll
Wesley Inman Strongman 12 Frying Pan Roll - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMBb4eS0l6o)

Bucks
06-22-2013, 08:54 AM
profile look underdosed? where are you seeing the ingredient panel?

It's 50mg per capsule, so I'm interested in their delivery system which is suppose to increase absorption since other stano clones are 200-300 mg .

milehighguy
06-22-2013, 01:33 PM
-Has been used in the medical community and shown long term to have growth effects on the penis.


Are you sure your not a rep for IML?...:)

All kidding aside good luck on this run

JM1000
06-22-2013, 09:55 PM
4.0 on the 40yd... looking forward to see the vid!

Grape Ape
06-22-2013, 11:16 PM
It's 50mg per capsule, so I'm interested in their delivery system which is suppose to increase absorption since other stano clones are 200-300 mg .
It's the old "we give you less active, since we give you a better delivery system"

If more active isn't working without a delivery system, then that whole idea is flawed.

I think this is why PP's androhard shined. More active+delivery system.


Anyway, Wes I hope you the best with the run, and I'll just sit back and watch from here.

h2s
06-23-2013, 12:47 PM
This isn't a diss against IML at all. I like IML and I am a fan of heavyiron, who is the most prominent face of the company. But it feels like not too long ago, everyone laughed at pp's focus on delivery. Now its being seen more and more.

machdaddy
06-23-2013, 02:20 PM
This isn't a diss against IML at all. I like IML and I am a fan of heavyiron, who is the most prominent face of the company. But it feels like not too long ago, everyone laughed at pp's focus on delivery. Now its being seen more and more.

Someone had to be first and take the insults/ridicule. Then once the results are in everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. We can't even imagine what balls it took for the first person to say the world wasn't flat.

nate3993
06-23-2013, 05:20 PM
i'll diss em. 50mg is a bs dose. could u possibly feel some effects at 200mg? sure. but think about this. i took lg sciences MMV3, their epiandro product. they have an "advanced' delivery system, i drank a cup of gfj i drank each dose, and grapefruit seed extract. so we have the cyclodextrin advanced delivery, a cup of grapefruit juice, grapefruit seed extract, and a dose of 300mg, and it was still pretty meh. i seriously doubt that 200 of this is gonna be a whole lot different.

WesleyInman
06-23-2013, 06:36 PM
i'll diss em. 50mg is a bs dose. could u possibly feel some effects at 200mg? sure. but think about this. i took lg sciences MMV3, their epiandro product. they have an "advanced' delivery system, i drank a cup of gfj i drank each dose, and grapefruit seed extract. so we have the cyclodextrin advanced delivery, a cup of grapefruit juice, grapefruit seed extract, and a dose of 300mg, and it was still pretty meh. i seriously doubt that 200 of this is gonna be a whole lot different.

Thank you for the feedback!! Well this is exactly what I am here to prove/disprove...Not 100% sure what to expect from this product and that is the best part.

Update Day 2
So far, I have taken 4 caps...I certainly feel within the hour after taking it, a nice warmth and again I feel agressive slightly.

2morrow starts my true Beta Test where I will be working out and taking 2 and 2.

One thing I have noticed is that I took a dosage on an empty stomach. Afterward I certainly could taste the "pepper" type feeling, not uncomfortable, but it felt like I just ate something with alot of pepper in it.

Anyways, so far so good. Super excited. The one and only downside that has occurred is that I was temporarily banned from ProMuscle for posting this log there. Even though I am a VET. Even though I have been there since 2001. So if anyone knows "bigchef" personally they can thank him for his failure to support the bodybuilding community. I personally am thankful to all the forums who have let me post up so that the members can potentially have a new product at their disposal, or certainly understand what "Stanolone" does. Especially since I have yet to find ANY log on Stanolone, anywhere on the net.

Here is a BEFORE picture of me with my daughter. 207lbs nice and puffed up from my recent "bulk". So lets see what happens from here on out!!!

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u579/StrongmanAlbum/wesleymadisonbefore1_zps5160266a.jpg (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/StrongmanAlbum/media/wesleymadisonbefore1_zps5160266a.jpg.html)

WesleyInman
06-25-2013, 06:17 PM
Update Day 3 and 4:

Day 3- was supposed to be the first lifting day of my Beta Log. Unfortunately the gym I was at canceled daycare for the day, so I could not workout. So I stuck with 1pill 2x that day.

Day 4-
I got two pills in the am, and two in the pm. First day I took double dosage.

Before I log my workout, what I can say about the product so far. Most noticeable is that I feel "warm" an hour after taking my pill..but a good warm. Slight aggression so far, nothing even remotely like Halo or anything but just a solid feeling I want to train.

Sexual libido. Certainly increases arousal. Erection quality is better and more often, reminds me of 5mg daily cialis actually. Semen volume is increased for sure. Better sensation during sex, better orgasm. I have tested it out 2x and it is noticeable, this is not just in my head. It almost reminds me of the feel of Proviron and or Cabaser combined if that makes sense.

Muscle Hardness. I can certainly feel my muscles getting denser. Think Var or even the trenabol cycle I just did. My abs and obliques are rock hard without flexing. Skin is tighter. Actually my biceps feel tight during the day, almost painful tightness on one side. Definetely not in my head.

Acne. Woke up with one pimple on my face, nothing crazy, but I NEVER break out on my face, so I am assuming it is this.

Strength. I did not notice a strength gain so far, but I have had one workout, so I certainly cannot judge.E

Either way, still way too soon to even remotely gauge.

Here is a brief portion of my workout today, I took 5 days off prior to this total, so I did not feel like going full out on my first day back. Plus my triceps were burning on pressing today. I went to maybe 80% effort if that.

Flat Bench
135x20
135x20
225x20
225x20
315x6
315x10
315x12
365x6..too much burning in elbows moving on

Shrugs (my variation)
45 per handx20
45x20
45x20
45x20

Incline One Armed Dumbell Presses and Pauses at bottom and top
100x10 R and L
130x10 R and L

And that was it..called it a day..Again, just getting back into the routine, tommorrow I will push it and I plan to actually train 4-6 days this week, including some track work.

I am doing abs and cardio 3-5 days as well..I may not list it, but it is happening.

Thanks again everyone for following along

Also I saw a thread titled STANODROL clones and see that some forum sponsors carry it?? If this is true, can you guys let me know what types of experiences you had and if this stuff is solid I will certainly support Swole Source and buy some from here. I do want to see how my body responds overall, but would love to hear feedback from anyone who has used before!!

h2s
06-26-2013, 07:49 AM
Very detailed updates. Thank you!

WesleyInman
06-26-2013, 11:29 PM
Very detailed updates. Thank you!

Thanx H2s!!!!

Day 5 (day 2 of true beta test aka 2 pills 2x per day)

BW=205lbs...sweating quite a bit, spent time out in the sun and lost some water, which is a good thing.

Feelings on my dosage today. Still got the increased "warm" feeling and I am sweating more now. Muscles are still feeling nice and hard and solid..vascularity is increasing and skin tightness is also.

Strength feels solid today, but nothing extreme noticeable. I may be adjusting to the product a bit already bc I did not feel the aggression after either dose today.

Squat Day

Warmups- No Handed
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x4

Moved right into 16" box squats
500x10 simple
500x10
585x6...testing the waters
585x15..good set..

Wanted to go heavier, but the bar at this gym is bending already, its a commercial gym, not my normal gym, though I train people out of this gym. I do apologize for the first two workouts. I did not do anything substantial. Today I was bothered by 30+ people in a 2 hour window, so I was just simply distracted...rule of thumb is you NEVER train yourself in a gym after you personally train someone else, bc people come out of the woodwork to ask questions. But I had no choice today.

Anyways,

Moved onto front squats
Front Squats
315x a bunch of singles
405x a bunch of singles
455x 2 singles
500x 2 singles

I actually got video of one single with 455x1
Wesley Inman Front Squat 455lbs- BW=205lbs. Iron Mag Labs Beta Test + Prescription Nutrition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plu2jQ_vbV0)

Did a bunch of abs and calves, wont' list..too boring...

But overall I am happy so far. I can certainly see that this product is going to help lean me out. I always look much larger when I am nice and ripped up..Seeing my lines return, striations and my abs were popping out all over today :)

VayneZ
06-27-2013, 08:31 AM
Mad strength on those front squats bro. I felt the pain just watching that. Interested to know where this cycle will take you :eek:

LBC-83
06-27-2013, 09:45 AM
Don't look now but someone is creeping on you via the gym mirrors!

Reason for the single on front squats simply due to fatigue after back squats or some other method to the madness?

longBallLima
06-27-2013, 10:31 AM
got sorta caught up... very nice log Wesley and kudos on them heavy ass weights lol

WesleyInman
06-27-2013, 08:06 PM
Mad strength on those front squats bro. I felt the pain just watching that. Interested to know where this cycle will take you :eek:
Thank you VayneZ for checking out my log, much appreciated!! Im curious to see what happens also!!!

Don't look now but someone is creeping on you via the gym mirrors!

Reason for the single on front squats simply due to fatigue after back squats or some other method to the madness?

LOL!!! What you cannot see is the 5-6 other creepy people behind me. That gym is a commercial gym and I get the strangest people that come to watch me lift. I take it as a compliment..but some of them are straight out stalkers LOL.

The singles on front squats are for Strongman. It increases your Atlas Stone and Tire Flips. Has no real use in BBing unless you do reps IMO..but anything over 405lbs is no joke to front squat,they are way harder IMO.



got sorta caught up... very nice log Wesley and kudos on them heavy ass weights lol

THANK YOU LBL :) Appreciated!!!


Day 6

BW=205lbs

New comments. Same train of thought. Harder muscles, warmer feeling. Sweating more. Increased Sex Drive. Today I felt some additional strength. I noticed it because towards the end of my workout I was just as strong as the beginning. And I did alot of sets, so I know the product was kicking in and this was not mental. My diet was poor today too, so even better!!

What I should also mention is my routine is a strength and bodybuilding routine combined. Some days you may see me train for strength ONLY and other days you may see me train higher reps to add size. But mind you there is a method to the madness, but my training routine may not be IDEAL for many bodybuilders out there, so please bare with my exercises.

Tricep and Bicep Day

It was rainy today and my joints simply ached. I have horrible elbows from the years of heavy lifting, so days it rains, I actually can feel it believe it or not. I can actually tend to predict rain bc my elbows throb when it is going to, or is raining.

Anyways, got all 4 caps in me before my workout. No preworkout either today.


Close Grip Bench Press
135x10
225x10
315x10
315x8 pause reps...Called triceps off after this one exercise bc elbows were killing me.

Mind you this video is NOT tonights workout, this is just to show you the pause method I use. Tonight I used 5 second CLOSE GRIP pauses. The video shows regular width incline, but you get the point.
Wesley Inman Strongman Incline Pause Reps 315x 11 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FETX0ffC-IM)

Bicep EZ BAR CURLS CHEAT CURLS
75x10
125x10
175x10..felt simple
205x7
205x8

Video of one of the BW sets.
Wesley Inman Strongman Bodyweight CHEAT curls with 205lbs x reps. BW=205lbs. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAdN130XT4)

Powersnatch (for core work)
135x10
135x10
135x10

Supinated Dumbell Curls (weights listed per hand)
30x20
40x20
50x10
65x10

One Armed Powersnatches
135x a bunch of singles

Standing barbell curls
135lbs x a bunch of sets and reps didnt' keep track

Tanned..did some abs, and skipped cardio called it a day

EUROPA EXPO..Hartford CT this Saturday if anyones going!!!!

VayneZ
06-28-2013, 05:17 PM
5 seconds must've sucked all the air out of you! Sick bro.
Would you advise that method with dumbbell press also?

WesleyInman
06-30-2013, 11:10 AM
5 seconds must've sucked all the air out of you! Sick bro.
Would you advise that method with dumbbell press also?

Thanx again VayneZ :) Believe it or not, I'm used to it and I am actually holding the weight a bit, it's not dead weight, which is much harder to do as well. For me I like these. I am all fast twitch fibers. So I am super fast and explosive but short term..So I do these to work on my static strength. I do recommend them to anyone with my particular bodytype. They certainly help overall strength IMO :) Thanks again for checking out my log!!!

Day 7/8 of Beta Test:


Had the opportunity to train out of town at World Gym on my way to Europa. Nice changeup. I find changing gyms from time to time is motivational and allows me to hit new PR's.

Europa was overall a good turnout. A few of our guys competed in physique and placed 1st-4th respectively in their classes. We had 4 guys in one class, and they took 1,2,3,4th... pretty cool.

Branch Warren and some other pro's were guest posers and looked enormous as always.

Let me first list my workout:
Shoulders/Traps

Super Wide Grip Incline Bench (caution this is dangerous for your pec if you do not do these normally)
135x10
225x10
315x10

Moved on to Incline Dumbells (weights listed per hand)
125x10
125x10
125x10
110x10 pause reps and one arm at a time

Traps (45lb plate) my variation, 10 second pauses at top
45x20
x20
x20
x20

Clean and Press
135x10
135x10
225x4..just working on form
225x4
225x4

One arm powersnatch
135x a bunch of singles

Did some heavy carries and runs prior to the workout with varying weights (strongman events training) won't list them

Hit some weighted abs/cardio and called it a day...Short session but good session.


WEEK 1- OVERALL REVIEW

Strength- Improving day by day
Energy- Improved during workout
Muscle Hardness- Excellent. Improving day by day.
Size- No size gains or loss.
Endurance- Slightly improved, but I have increased my cardio,so likely that is the reason.
Cardio Function- Again, improved as I have increased Cardio.
Vascularity- Improved for sure, striations are showing already
Aggression- Noticed it a little at first, but none at all now.
Anger- NONE
Depression- NONE
Overall Mood- Good mood, I feel good as I am excited to see my physique improving.
Acne- one or two here and there
Oily Skin- Noticeable. Especially on my face. My skin is very oily now, which might be why some people notice increases in acne.
Changes in mood/temperment- None
Agression in the Gym- Improved for sure
How this effects Sex- More sensitive and more erections during the day
Sex Drive- Slightly improved
Any sexually related issues- Nothing negative
Nightmares- yes I have noticed a few since i started, kind of like tren
Night Sweats- NONE
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno- NONE
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves- None that I am aware of. Urine is not dark, not back pains, nothing on the surface.
Hair thinning- Have not noticed this.
Hair Darkening- Yes my facial hair is darker
Hair growth- Facial and Chest. I am shaving more often this week.
Sleep Issues- I have been waking up exhausted every day. I do believe it is the supplement. I have been waking up a few times in my sleep. But the a.m lethargy sucks. I feel like I can sleep all day. Once I am up I am good to go. But I have even taken a nap late in the day 2-3x this week and I do believe the product is behind this.
Blood Pressure- No changes so far. I am very sensitive to increases in BP, so this is a good sign that it has not changed.
Sweating- Tremendously increased.


My Overall Thoughts so Far???

Honestly, I ******* love this product!!!! I look amazing a week in. I have worked my ass off. I have been more motivated. I have stepped up cardio and abs and I do believe that when my 30 day pictures come out, people will think it's photoshopped, I could take a pic today and show a clear change already.

I will not hesitate to say already this product reminds me of Masteron in many ways.

My vascularity/striations and muscle hardness are very much improved. I see most of the changes in my midsection. But all my muscles are more firm and I'm like a statue, just rock solid.

This product is certainly a Bodybuilder's item. I do not see it being a huge muscle "producer" but if you have any existing muscle it is going to tighten it down, harden it up and reveal itself to you.

It is early to say this, but this is my interpretation, though we will see if I have any mass gains.

I started at 207lbs...I am 205lbs today, but much more shredded.

My last 3 workouts, especially yesterday I could literally wring out my entire outfit. It is certainly kicking in and I am sweating a storm.

Sexually it has the added benefit of increased erections and sensitivity. I would say sex is actually better on this, kind of like proviron.

Overall I am very very happy. This has very MILD side effects so far. Most obvious is my skin is more oily and I feel exhausted in the am. I may take ECA or Angel Dust by BL to fix this issue though.

Very Happy!!! Rarely will you see me talk up a product this early..but I have to say I am a fan..Excited for the remaining weeks to see what will happen!!!

WesleyInman
07-08-2013, 09:40 AM
July 4th on------>

My apologies for not updating this last week, my schedule has been insane for the Holiday. But starting tomorrow I should have daily updates again and this week I will be hitting the gym 5-6 days out of the week. Should be getting video, etc..

Week 3-4 will be the week I get some track footage and I should have some more video footage this week as well

I will list up one of my workouts this week:

BW=204lbs

Chest/Traps/Core

Flat Bench-
135x20
225x10
315x6
315x6
365x5 elbows
365x5 elbow pain again
385x2
385x2
385x2

Incline Dumbell Press one arm at a time(weights listed per hand)
120x10
130x10
130x10
150x4
150x4

Upright Rows
135x10
185x10
225x10

Powercleans (for core and cardio)
135x10
135x10
135x10
135x20

45lb plate Shrugs (one in each hand) 10 second pauses at top.
45x20
45x20
45x20

Push presses
225 for a bunch of doubles, triples and sets of 4

Did a bunch of cardio and abs and called it a day.



WEEK 2- OVERALL REVIEW

Strength- slightly better overall but nothing dramatic
Energy- Improved during workout
Muscle Hardness- Still showing to be getting harder and harder, more so on training days.
Size- I would say I am leaner for a fact, but people tell me I look much bigger, which to me signals that I am far more defined as well as harder.
Endurance- Improved. Even on the sets of 20 powersnatches my cardio is much better.
Cardio Function- Again, improved as I have increased Cardio.
Vascularity- Improved for sure, striations are showing
Aggression- A small amount in the gym, not as much as at first.
Anger- NONE
Depression- NONE
Overall Mood- Good mood, I feel good as I am excited to see my physique improving.
Acne- Certainly small new acne here and there, but nothing remotely bad.
Oily Skin- Noticeable side still
Changes in mood/temperment- None. If anything I seem more calm and patient.
Aggression in the Gym- Improved on workout days.
How this effects Sex- More sensitive and more erections during the day continually
Sex Drive- Improved
Any sexually related issues- Nothing negative
Nightmares- none now they have subsided from week 1
Night Sweats- NONE
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno- NONE
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves- None that I am aware of. Urine is not dark, not back pains, nothing on the surface.
Hair thinning- Have not noticed this.
Hair Darkening- Yes my facial hair is darker
Hair growth- Facial and Chest. I am shaving more often this week.
Sleep Issues-Still having some lethargy issues. I am starting to think it is dehydration based since this product does seem to dry you out a little, so I am jacking up my water intake this week and seeing what happens.
Blood Pressure- No changes so far. I am very sensitive to increases in BP, so this is a good sign that it has not changed.
Sweating- still highly increased.
Appetite- Actually I would say I noticed it has increased slightly.
Heartburn- A side effect or potential one that I failed to mention at week 1. I simply forgot to mention it. Week 1 I had some heartburn, it was solved with TUMS. Week 2, I have had it here and there at night, but seemingly has improved.


My Overall Thoughts so Far???

I still really really like this product. I have been having bad elbow pains and burning. Reminds me of when I used to use winny. Anytime I get super lean or start to drop water this happens, so it certainly just shows me the powerful effects it truly has. I may have to lower down a bit on my pressing exercises. My strength is "better" but I cannot fully acheive it on pressing motions because the pain from my elbows is an issue for me.

This could be alleviated long term by a product like Cissus or possibly stacking this product with something like Deca.

That is another thing I will say in favor of this product. I think this will be an EXCELLENT product in a stack. For example running this with a Test base or another PH in my opinion. As a matter of fact I put one of my clients on high dose epistane and high dose EPI ANDRO to get some huge lean size gains. I will be sure to post up in my log how he is doing, he started today.


Overall I am very pleased. I have had a ton of compliments this week. Every single person that has seen me over the last 2 weeks has asked what I am doing,and they all say I have gotten "huge". I get this when I get nice and ripped up..so even though I am down a few pounds, it is possible I gained a small amount of lean muscle and burnt bodyfat, therefore the small weight loss could actually be a much bigger bodyfat and water loss and small lean muscle gain.

I do like this product. I will use this product again.

I have no issue comparing this to the product Masteron, injectable AAS at a lower dosage of course.

Last 2 weeks I will finish STRONG and hit the gym harder then I have in some time.

Thanks again everyone for following along :)

Grape Ape
07-08-2013, 11:06 AM
Glad this is going well for you.

Sounds like your clients joints will be real dry and hurting on that stack. I'd take note, and maybe some prevention before it becomes an issue.

WesleyInman
07-08-2013, 11:27 AM
Glad this is going well for you.

Sounds like your clients joints will be real dry and hurting on that stack. I'd take note, and maybe some prevention before it becomes an issue.

For sure. He is running cissus and Omegas.

I started my omega's today. Thanks GA :)

VayneZ
07-09-2013, 03:47 PM
Damn Wes, if people say you got huge, what term would you use for your ''before pics'' then?!?!

Awesome to see how this works for you man!

WesleyInman
07-09-2013, 08:51 PM
Damn Wes, if people say you got huge, what term would you use for your ''before pics'' then?!?!

Awesome to see how this works for you man!

Thank you VayneZ..you always have such kind words. Appreciate it :) I have to admit that I don't exactly feel "big" these days. 2 years ago when I was on AAS I was sitting at 230lbs @ 5'7 and repping 405x10 on bench with ease. I did compete naturally for 12 of my 17 years, but there is no doubt that AAS made a considerable size and strength difference and now that I know my bodies true potential..I just don't feel "huge" comparatively..if this makes sense. Either way, I will take your compliment, thank you!!!!

DAY 15
BW= HOLDING AT 204lbs

I actually have been tanning as well during this log. I took some days off like I had mentioned because its been very hectic and my daughter is home for the summer from school and I try not to put her in kids club ever, she doesn't like it..anyways, tonight I hit the gym late,7:30pm and I did a PRE workout day. I do this often and what that is, is if I miss some time in the gym, I go one day prior and do a bunch of odds and ends, not super heavy, but just to get my body ready for the next day. Today was one of those days.

Back on subject, after tanning, I actually looked in the mirror did some of my old poses, flexed, checked my breathing. My physique looks fucking amazing compared to 2 weeks ago. Striations, lines, muscles hard as stone and bulging. I actually looked jacked as hell, which you will rarely hear me say.

With that being said and done, I will honestly admit..I have been supplementing for 17 years. I would for a fact say that this product EPI ANDRO RX has shown me the best leaning, hardening and cutting results in an over the counter oral that I have EVER gotten in such a short period of time. I stand by this statement. NEVER have I seen an OTC product work this fast and effectively. And my diet, I may have dieted at 25-50% effort I have not even tried remotely like I would for any contest. That to me is a true test. With good AAS, not that you should, but you can get away with a hell of alot and this for a fact has been no different. Again this product is ideal for someone with muscle already and wanting to lean it out and show it more. Even someone who was lean already with muscle would easily show new gains with this product.


Also I have determined that "FOR ME" this product is far more effective on an empty stomach. I get the aggression in the gym, a feeling of well being and warmth far more noticeable.

With the fatigue I was experiencing. I was thinking that it might have something to do with dehydration. So I upped my water considerably the last 3 days and I have to say I am not near as tired. I would say that for now it does appear that I need to drink at least a gallon and a half of water on this product. Not a problem, but so you know if you run this, if you feel tired..drink more water.

Also, acne is starting to hit a bit more, it can be potentially because I am sweating more too from this product. I make sure to shower immediately after a workout, you should as well to help alleviate body acne issues. Two pimples on my face. A few on my chest, a few on my legs. Alot of "inflammation" type acne. These are red spots under the skin, NOT whiteheads. They can take months to go away. A simple cure is to use PREDNISONE. This is a prescription medication. Use the protocol of 50mgs ED for a week and then pyramid down each day,50,40, 30, 20, 10..and be done, you will see a dramatic lightening and removal of these red spots.

Ok anyways, here goes today's routine

7/9/13

Warmup

Incline Bench Press
135x10
225x10
315x10 felt so easy
365x5

Flat Bench
135x20 slow pauses
135x20
135x20

Upright Rows
135x10
135x10
135x10

Barbell Curls
135x10
135x10
135x10

Powersnatches
135x10
135x10
135x10

Hit my crunches, finished off cardio with 4mph walking on the treadmill, came home and treated myself to some General Tso chicken and Pork Fried Rice.

Again, how filthy I ate this whole time and how I did not diet like crazy or do intense cardio, my results are simply just unreal.

I can't say enough about this product. Out of all the PH's I have run so far this is in my top 2.

This week I will be hitting every body part 2x so I should have a solid amount of posts for a week straight, probably daily.

On my strongman Forum (Marunde Muscle- jesse marunde's website) I have a daily journal in the members log. I usually do a "Song of the Day". People often ask me what I listen to or what songs I find give me a solid session.

So today I chose, from the movie Jackass #1 soundtrack, CKY FLESH INTO GEAR :)
CKY- flesh into gear - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwQNEzY8Z_E)

milehighguy
07-09-2013, 10:50 PM
Wesley
What is your #1 PH?
Epi....

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WesleyInman
07-09-2013, 10:56 PM
Wesley
What is your #1 PH?
Epi....

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Bolasterone. Boladrol. Real Boladrol by Oxapharm. Stronger then Anadrol. Impossible to obtain anymore. Legal, because they left it off the AAS ban list. PHF Boladrol was decent, but was 1/10th the product of real Bolasterone.

# 3 is Epi...Epistane is amazing. It is just as good as a winny/turinabol combo IMO. I am beta testing Mike's Prescription Nutrition version next. I have never run it at high dosage. I will be doing 60mgs per day. So if I have to re-order my top 3 I will..

But I give you my word Bolasterone, EPI ANDRO and Epistane are just as good, if not better in some ways to AAS orals.

DJM
07-10-2013, 07:28 AM
you need to try anavar ;)

milehighguy
07-10-2013, 08:23 AM
Great feedback...thanks Wesley

And yea, anavar is on the wish list already DJM!

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DJM
07-10-2013, 10:21 AM
i USED to speak highly of epistane, thought it was better than winny (from what iv heard of winny) and a poor man's var......however i last ran epi alongside test and mast, 60mg 4wks, and results were outweighed by sides (lipids and headaches), var was already better in my mind, then i found a great source for anavar and the last time i used it , 40-50mg blew away epistane across the board, with immaculate bloods

burlyman30
07-10-2013, 01:48 PM
You had my interest at "bolasterone"... too bad I missed the window of opportunity on that one.

WesleyInman
07-10-2013, 10:56 PM
you need to try anavar ;)
I used Anavar for years!! Love anavar and winny. After my custody battle, and that my wonderful ex tried to use my past steroid use against me, I decided to come clean. Have a script for HRT..but anything else I either want a script or it has to be OTC..which led me directly to use PH's and begin years of experimentation with them..and I have to say I am impressed with the stuff that exists. But yes if I could get a script for Var...I would eat those like candy year round :)


Great feedback...thanks Wesley

And yea, anavar is on the wish list already DJM!

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Thank you MH!!!!


i USED to speak highly of epistane, thought it was better than winny (from what iv heard of winny) and a poor man's var......however i last ran epi alongside test and mast, 60mg 4wks, and results were outweighed by sides (lipids and headaches), var was already better in my mind, then i found a great source for anavar and the last time i used it , 40-50mg blew away epistane across the board, with immaculate bloods
Yeah everyone responds different!! My BW is good on Var, Winny, Epi..high epi lets see what happens..if SS doesn't mind, Ill do my PN review right here, back to back!! Why not!!!! Some people have horrific sides with Var like fatigue, cholesterol and liver issues..not me..that stuff is pure Gold for my body.

You had my interest at "bolasterone"... too bad I missed the window of opportunity on that one.

Yes it was legit. If it ever comes back I will let SS know. And for the record, I have zero affiliation with Oxapharm, the sole manafacturer. It really was that good. It has to exist somewhere.

7/10/2013

Day 16

I weighed in at 206lbs today..took my EPI ANDRO and trained for 1.5 hours weighed back in and was 204lbs..it literally drops 2lbs of water during my session!! Still getting compliments left and right that I look bigger this week then last!! I def. look better.

Today was Leg Day. Trained out of a different gym then my home gym, nice gym, goal was to not be distracted. It didn't happen :)

LEGS

Squats - warmups- NO HANDED SQUATS
135x10
225x10
315x8
405x4
405x6

Box Squats to 16"
500x10
585x6
675x4
675x8

Prison Presses aka "PrisINMAN Press" (squat into strict behind neck press)
135x5
225x5
275x3
315x1
315x1
315x1
Wanted to go for 365 but I did not have a deadlift platform..but I did get video..You can see these went up with ease..not bad!!
Wesley Inman Strongman Prison Press aka PrisInman Press 315 with ease. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AFhy_OvorE&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1WZNWVWxhx7y5l8Eo5oNhQ)

SHRUGS
"WesleyInman Shrugs"
45 per hand x20
45x20
45x20
45x20

This is what I use for myself and my clients and this will build immaculate Traps. I have had worked with many Pro's from Worlds Strongest Man..and even they use my routine. Guys you have seen on ESPN, 3-400+lb men who used to cheat and try and shrug 5-600lbs for reps..Now use my 45lb to 90lb routine per hand and double their trap size. I made a video for you guys if you want to give it a shot. Do this for 3 months and I promise you that you will be happy. I have a 100% success rate..and this is a routine I developed.
Wesley Inman Strongman . Add size to your traps quickly. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM1onefXf3g&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1WZNWVWxhx7y5l8Eo5oNhQ)

Seated Calf Raises (plates listed are 45lbs each)
1 platex10
2x10
3x10
4x10
5x10
6x10
7x10..this is heavy as hell..7 - 45lb plates..I actually felt a pinch in my left calf and I stopped right there. I hope this does not effect my lower body for the next 2 week bc next week is when I go to the track and film 40m Dash and some other footage. I may have to rest my legs, even though I intended to do them 2x this week..Something certainly made a "pop" and I don't want to risk it..but lets play it by ear.

Did cardio @ 5mph on treadmill, several hundred abs and obliques.

Abs are hard as stone and an inch and a half deep.

Product continues to harden and impress me.

Back and Biceps tommorrow. Hope you guys like the videos :)

burlyman30
07-11-2013, 08:08 AM
Prison press... new one to me. Nice video, it went up like it weighed nothing. I do want to see the 1.5 inch deep cut abs you are talking about. Sounds impressive.

VayneZ
07-11-2013, 06:26 PM
Wes, Imma start putting those INMAN-shrugs 2x into my weekly routine. Looks really solid bro, especially the full stretch and long contraction!

milehighguy
07-11-2013, 09:06 PM
Yeah everyone responds different!! My BW is good on Var, Winny, Epi..high epi lets see what happens..if SS doesn't mind, Ill do my PN review right here, back to back!! Why not!!!! Some people have horrific sides with Var like fatigue, cholesterol and liver issues..not me..that stuff is pure Gold for my body.

I vote yes...the more high quality logs we have the better informed everyone will be

WesleyInman
07-11-2013, 09:16 PM
Prison press... new one to me. Nice video, it went up like it weighed nothing. I do want to see the 1.5 inch deep cut abs you are talking about. Sounds impressive.
Thank you so much!! It actually did feel super light, I want to try 365 next..the gym I was at has a carpeted floor with wood underneath, no deadlift platform. If I were to ever drop that weight it would destroy the floor so I have to wait until I am in the right gym :) I will take a close of up the abs..I believe heavy strongman events like Yoke and super heavy squats are the reason my abs are so thick now!! Thanks Burly :)


Wes, Imma start putting those INMAN-shrugs 2x into my weekly routine. Looks really solid bro, especially the full stretch and long contraction!
Awesome VayneZ!! I look forward to hearing your personal result :) :)


I vote yes...the more high quality logs we have the better informed everyone will be

Ok, will do!!! Im excited for the high dosage Epi Run..I actually spoke to Mike about it today and I think when I start Im gonna frontload..a very high dosage. 90-105mgs maybe for a week!! Why not? I will protect my liver very well and internal organs. Donate blood to have a very low cbc and low RBC count and low BP, and give it a go. I am game!! Then 60mgs ED for the next 4-5 weeks. I want to give a realistic idea of what SS members can gain or accomplish with the product!! I really wanna see if this EPI can push my strength up and over the limit...Id like to get some ridiculous lifts at my Bodyweight :)

Thank you guys for your support!

Scope75
07-12-2013, 07:58 AM
Thanks for posting your trap exercise because it's KILLER!!
I'll be doing it 3-5 times a week.

VayneZ
07-12-2013, 09:49 AM
Thanks for posting your trap exercise because it's KILLER!!
I'll be doing it 3-5 times a week.

Lol! That is so ''Scope-ish''! Always doing mad amount of quanitities! With the way you eat bro, I'm sure you'll see awesome results bro! Imma start today in between my Sumo Deadz and Chest workout.

Wes: I'm also looking forward for those abs pics!!! Need inspiration! Right now I'm building those abs! Next year I'll start leaning out... this year is BUILDING year

WesleyInman
07-12-2013, 10:43 AM
Thanks for posting your trap exercise because it's KILLER!!
I'll be doing it 3-5 times a week.

Excellent!! Please let me know how it works out for you!!! Traps and Calves I have found with myself and clients 99% of the time require much higher rep work and lighter weight, multiple times per week for growth!! Great to hear you will try it!!


Lol! That is so ''Scope-ish''! Always doing mad amount of quanitities! With the way you eat bro, I'm sure you'll see awesome results bro! Imma start today in between my Sumo Deadz and Chest workout.

Wes: I'm also looking forward for those abs pics!!! Need inspiration! Right now I'm building those abs! Next year I'll start leaning out... this year is BUILDING year

Awesome VayneZ!!

And I hear ya, I will get some close ups of them towards the end!! In all fairness I cannot say that this product developed them but certainly showed them much quicker then any other product that exists :) And I hear ya on the building part, I tend to try to stay in the building and bulking stage as much as possible :) Good luck man and thank you!!

7/11/2013
BW=205

Day 17 on the product. Have to say I am not looking forward to ending this product. I seriously want to stay on it for 60 days at least, but I have another beta test with high dosage Prescription Nutrition Epistane directly after this.

I truly am in love with this product. The sides are simply minimal and I love how my body looks and feels. I have gotten more compliments recently then in a long time...and I am vascular as hell. My abs and core are rock hard at all times..It's a good feeling.

One thing I did notice the last 3 days I should mention is that I have noticed a change in my urination. Either I have to actually push or my stream is weaker. This "MIGHT" signal irritation, or slight enlargement at the prostate, but that is not 100% a fact. DHT products have been known to cause prostate issues, and been known to cure them...What I do know is if it continues I will use SAW PALMETTO and take care of it. Or when I run this again, I will use saw palmetto just in case. PROSCAR aka FINASTERIDE is a known cure for enlargement of the Prostate but people need to realize it blocks DHT...So that would ultimately make this supplement pointless if you ran the two..just an FYI. Again this is nothing crazy, but I did notice it and wanted to mention it.

Definitely tied the fatigue to dehydration. So my suggestion when on this product is to drink additional water and you will feel like a million bucks. I force myself to drink a ton of water, even though I don't like it.

Hardness still excellent, vascularity is improved significantly, veins everywhere, tighter muscles, better pumps, better endurance, slight strength increases. Continually I will say this product is very noticeable. For someone getting ready for a show, like physique or bodybuilding, run this with some clen, or even ECA or Angel Dust and if you are dieting, this stuff is going to be just simply unreal.


Believe it or not, I have a shirt I got from Giants Live Worlds Strongest Man, it is a very special shirt to me, anyways, during tonights workout I actually got such a back pump that I ripped the shirt from armpit all the way to my nipple in one of my reps. I'm very much serious. Have to sew it. Never has happened to me before. Shows all my muscles are bigger.

Back/Biceps

Seated Cable Rows
warmups
50x20
50x20
Rack=300x6
300x6
300x6
300x6
300x10...easy.

Supinated Bicep Curls (dumbells listed per hand)
30x20
40x20
50x20..again putting in maybe 50% effort

Pullovers (medicine ball for reps, explosive power)
x20
x20
x20
x20

Standing EZ CURLS
65x10
115x10
165x10


Hammer Curls
30x20
40x20
50x10
75x10

Stretched out, did my cardio, did abs on a decline bench, full situps not crunches and called it a day. This was a late workout, and I will admit my body is sore here and there, mostly from the leg day..the day after legs I am never strong and usually rest. I am trying to hit 5-6 days straight this week, which is not consistent with trying to gain strength, rather I really wanna cut up and show a solid result how this product works as the end is approaching. I dont mind doing a BBing routine for the end.

Thanks everyone for reading along. Hitting the gym in a bit, try to get some videos made :)

VayneZ
07-12-2013, 06:01 PM
You usually hit abs every workout Wes? or is it because your on a cycle that you take advantage of the faster recovery?

h2s
07-13-2013, 03:17 PM
Caught up. Scary about the ex using your usage against you. I had ended a long term relationship recently, and I shared EVERYTHING with her because I never saw it ending. One of my initial worries was if my usage would be put on blast. Luckily it wasnt

weekend
07-14-2013, 01:55 AM
Tell me more about no handed squats..

WesleyInman
07-14-2013, 06:10 AM
You usually hit abs every workout Wes? or is it because your on a cycle that you take advantage of the faster recovery?
Hey VayneZ :) I am only doing it for this run just to have them show up a bit more. When I said they are 1.5 inch deep btw, they are but I dont have my centers fully showing, meaning, I still have to tighten up the skin in the centers. I will show the pics but I didn't want to confuse anyone that I have 1.5 inch abs even at the center..that would be amazing.. :)


Caught up. Scary about the ex using your usage against you. I had ended a long term relationship recently, and I shared EVERYTHING with her because I never saw it ending. One of my initial worries was if my usage would be put on blast. Luckily it wasnt Hey h2s, thanx for checking in :) Yep, my ex used it against me. We actually provided blood work to show that I was in a normal range, and not one person in the Court Room even understood it anyways. Once I revealed my HRT script, they dropped the idea to pursue really quick.


Tell me more about no handed squats..
Hey weekend man :) They are much harder then real ones, and they require far more balance and stability. Im not flexible so they are simply better for me to get a nice deep squat minus any cheating. I don't recommend them, because you could easily get hurt or drop the weight. I never have, but they carry more risk and not too too much reward compared to holding on.

(skip to 5:50 in the video)
Strongman Wesley Inman vs. Squat Police with Prescription Nutrition - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9vJKA_h7m0)

7/13/2013

Shoulders and Trap Work

BW=205lbs

**Arrived to the gym super sore, tired, should have probably taken the day off, but will take the next day off.**

Arnold Curls (dumbells per hand)
30x20
40x20
50x20
75x20

Still super sore, cutting this workout super short.

Super Wide Grip Incline Bench Press (3 sets)
135x10
225x10
315x15 PR!! (personal record @ this bodyweight)

My Shrug Variation
45x20
45x20
45x20
45x20

Jesse Marunde grip flips
45x5 per hand
45x5
45x5
45x5
Heres a video that shows this motion, this is an old video from last year and was not during this workout, but shows what grip flips are. These do not do anything for a bodybuilder, but grip strength is vital for a strongman, PLer and Highland Games :)
Wesley Inman Demonstrating with 45 lb Plates - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DkrDjbnMLE)

Called it a day, way too sore and tired to pull off a full workout. My body def. needs rest. I have to say I am happy with this workout, hit a nice PR on incline bench press. Also in terms of the product, just continued results of what i have been saying already this week, very happy with product.

Turbo6GN
07-14-2013, 12:29 PM
Wow, great job Wes, love the thread. I'm blown away by your trap routine as it mimics mine a great deal. I never got great results shrugging big weight and started to put more emphasis on the stretch. I train traps with 40 and 60lb dums and get pretty good results, letting the dums down slowly on my thighs (rather then at my sides) and maxing out the stretch. A smith machine behind the back is really good too, just one plate, maybe 1.5 plates and let the weight pull against your traps, like a trap negative if that makes sense...

Keep killing it!!

JM1000
07-14-2013, 04:24 PM
Great log Wes! subscribed to your youtube channel. thanks for sharing the trap routine and other w/o. I say it again lol, PN is lucky to have you rep them

WesleyInman
07-15-2013, 10:05 AM
Wow, great job Wes, love the thread. I'm blown away by your trap routine as it mimics mine a great deal. I never got great results shrugging big weight and started to put more emphasis on the stretch. I train traps with 40 and 60lb dums and get pretty good results, letting the dums down slowly on my thighs (rather then at my sides) and maxing out the stretch. A smith machine behind the back is really good too, just one plate, maybe 1.5 plates and let the weight pull against your traps, like a trap negative if that makes sense...

Keep killing it!!

Awesome man, great minds think alike right? LOL :) I do like the plate version, what I should have showed was that you can use straps on those too..I always believe in straps on shrugs so that I am only focused on the shrug portion and not the grip. Thank you so much for your kind words :)


Great log Wes! subscribed to your youtube channel. thanks for sharing the trap routine and other w/o. I say it again lol, PN is lucky to have you rep them

JM, thanks man, that means alot :) Hey did you ever get your PN order?? I never followed up, I just assumed it all went well!!!!! Appreciate you subscribing, I have some new videos coming out all the time and some circus acts, ie like the frying pan roll, hammer break..Some people have told me they think it's dumb..For me they are fun little challenges..and my daughter and her friends love that stuff :)

7/15/2013
Day 21
So I am taking a day or two off to rest my body, so I won't have a training day until tommorrow or Weds. This week and next is when i need to get some video at the track. My achilles and left calf are bothering me, from that day a week ago when I reported a "pop" or a pinch in my calf..Think its a small strain from training them heavy.

Anyways, I have had alot of personal training questions as of late so I made another video regarding Straps. I try to provide the community with unique perspectives into the way I train my clients and the techniques that I have used as strategies over the years. So here is another video for you guys to check out.

Wesley Inman Strongman vs Training with Straps- w Gym N Tonic Supplements @ gymntonic.com - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvGJGtnCKy4)


WEEK 3- OVERALL REVIEW

Strength- slightly better
Energy- Improved during workout
Muscle Hardness- Excellent Improvement
Size- Muscles are harder. I feel like I have hardened up so much that my biceps and calves have lost a tiny bit of size, but they are rock hard, so even if it's true, they look better.
Endurance- Improved for sure.
Cardio Function- Again, improved as I have increased Cardio and the product I feel improves endurance.
Vascularity- Improved for a fact, one of the most important things about this product.
Aggression- Not really any aggression but I feel great in the gym.
Anger- NONE
Depression- NONE
Overall Mood- Good mood, I feel good as I am excited to see my physique improving.
Acne- No new acne
Oily Skin- Not as oily as week one and two.
Changes in mood/temperment- None. If anything I seem more calm and patient.
Aggression in the Gym- Improved on workout days.
How this effects Sex- More sensitive and more erections during the day continually. Erections peaked at week 2. they were constant during the day.
Sex Drive- Improved
Any sexually related issues- Nothing negative
Nightmares- none
Night Sweats- NONE
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno- NONE
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves- None that I am aware of. Urine is not dark, not back pains, nothing on the surface.
Hair thinning- Have not noticed this.
Hair Darkening- Yes my facial hair is darker, the hair on my head is now darker in color.
Hair growth- Facial and Chest. I am shaving more often still.
Sleep Issues-Increasing water seemed to be key..but the past few days I have woken up maybe 5-10 times every single night, not sure why.
Blood Pressure- No changes so far. I am very sensitive to increases in BP, so this is a good sign that it has not changed.
Sweating- still sweating but primarily during cardio.
Appetite- this week my appetite was lower, could be any reasons.
Heartburn- Very rarely.

Also I should mention that this product is really hitting full swing now. One thing I noticed is it is drawing all my water out of me..I am urinating constantly and my muscles are all much much harder and skin tighter. My obliques and abdominal area is where this is most noticeable.


My Overall Thoughts so Far???

Still very very happy with this product. Night and day difference in body in short period of time. One of the most noticeable strongest products I have used. It's funny bc on several other forums I have guys now talking about Stano products on the regular. It would appear that many guys like Stano quite a bit, they just don't talk much about it. It would appear that transdermals are a big item, I have never tried them.

I also convinced another member in a private forum to run EPI ANDRO along side of me. He is reporting almost identical effects that i am, and he is very very happy with the product.

For as good as this product is, I dont know why it is not talked about more?? Maybe bc most guys choose to use IM Masteron?? Not sure, but this is oral masteron everyone. It is excellent.

1 week to go, lets punch out the last week strong and get some videos and after pics. I need to tan a bit more too. :)

JM1000
07-15-2013, 06:23 PM
Hey Wes got any fun tips for calves? Does your routine involve lots of calf work? maybe a video lol?

Order just got in today, thanks for the follow up man!

Grape Ape
07-15-2013, 07:03 PM
It's not talked about more because it doesn't put 15lbs on in 4 weeks, and a ton of pussies are afraid they will lose their hair from DHT.

VayneZ
07-15-2013, 07:13 PM
Hey Wes got any fun tips for calves? Does your routine involve lots of calf work? maybe a video lol?

Order just got in today, thanks for the follow up man!

Dude no way! I was just about to ask Wes the same question!! LMAO!!!!!! Awesome, I guess this question was meant to be! :p

Btw, Wes, those Marunde grips looks very useful to a bodybuilder imo. Stronger grip is something I'm actually working on! I'll try these next time.. but probably with plates of 10's to start of with haha!!

WesleyInman
07-18-2013, 10:01 PM
Hey Wes got any fun tips for calves? Does your routine involve lots of calf work? maybe a video lol?

Order just got in today, thanks for the follow up man!
JM great to hear..

I do have a calf routine in the works..same thing as traps...lower weight, high reps pause at the top, deep stretch at the bottom...Point toes inward to work outer calf..point toes normal to work overall calf, and point calves outward to work the inner calf. 3 x per week also..and you are gtg..I will try to get one asap but I am booked solid, I have so much going on.

Thank you for supporting PN :) Hope you like your products



It's not talked about more because it doesn't put 15lbs on in 4 weeks, and a ton of pussies are afraid they will lose their hair from DHT.
LOL..agreed..I am in love with this stuff....I have a shaved head, so losing hair is no concern for me.


Dude no way! I was just about to ask Wes the same question!! LMAO!!!!!! Awesome, I guess this question was meant to be! :p

Btw, Wes, those Marunde grips looks very useful to a bodybuilder imo. Stronger grip is something I'm actually working on! I'll try these next time.. but probably with plates of 10's to start of with haha!!
Hey VayneZ :) thanks again man for all your kind words :) The grip flips I used for Strongman..they may help for BBing and overall, I certainly will agree they are dangerous, thank you so much for trying out my techniques :)

7/18/2013

BW= 203 after my workout..it was 102 degrees out no AC in the gym so I bet I sweated out 3 lbs.
Day 23..7 days to go..

I have to admit, this beta test along with daily life has taken a toll on me pressure wise. I am sure alot of you guys know I stared my own Online Supplement Store...It ranked #1 in the US for stores 3 years and under this month..Which is nice, but it is a s***load of work..combined with training and being a single parent. Not to mention the day this one ends, I have another 30 day review of Prescription Nutrition's Epistane..I was gonna do it at 60mgs but I said F it and am gonna run it at 90mgs..I guarantee no one has ever seen such a log. Mine will be the first..I hope you guys will follow it on my FB page..

I have put a ton of work and effort into this to assure the community the effect's of this product..

Anyways I am feeling tired and a bit burnt out..when this happens I know its' time to visit a new gym....

So I made it to Montnari's Powerhouse of New Haven CT...This is Evan Centopani's home gym as well as many many other IFBB pros train here...

I have a video coming up tommorrow to show you guys the dynamics of the gym...

In the meantime, I am not going to go over the entire workouts for the past 2 days...

Instead I will tell you that I worked up to Flat Bench yesterday for 405lbs for several sets of doubles with ease..

My strength feels very good right now..I do have alot of aches in my elbows, knees, wrists, etc..so I DO think this product dries you out..think Winny..but I will tell you I am AMAZED by this product..Still 10/10 review..love, love it..

So here is tonights workout, I moved around a bit, trained with some friends and got some footage,and I purposefully trained light for reps,except on Incline Dumbells.

Incline Dumbells (weights Per hand)
50x20
50x20
100x10
150x8
180x2 video
Wesley Inman Strongman 180lb dumbells Incline Press per hand @ 203lbs Bodyweight - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0xN51k-oNU)

Deadlifts
First time in 3 months..I strained my left pec and bicep Judging at Derek Poundstone's Charity Strongman Contest....I was the judge, but unfortunately Derek and i were the only guys strong enough to reset certain events so we were lifting hundreds of pounds..I strained it lifting an Atlas Stone to my shoulder from overuse and dehydration..anyways, here is what happened and is in video
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x10
500x2
585x2
Not putting in any effort on these and felt good on the 585..but I did straight leg the last 2 reps..My deadlift has always been my weak point...On a good ay 675x1 from olympic...Oddly enough my car deadlift is world renowned...At Worlds Strongest Man Super Series 2010..they had me test the car deadlift to see if it was heavy enough..It was a toyota camry equal to 750lbs...I hit it with straps and no suit for 9 reps. I actually did more then 50% of the real competitors...Of Course Poundstone hit it for 19, Mark Felix hit it for 17..but I weighed almost half of them..Anways, my olympic DL sucks and I attribute it to lack of flexibility.

Leg Extensions
100x30
100x30
100x30
100x30


Super Close Stance/Super Deep squats (5 second pauses at bottom)
135x20
135x20
135x20
135x20

Calf Raises
(special machine at Powerhouse, similar to Donkey Calf, but not..)
180x20
180x20
180x20
180x20

I had an awesome time..The Montanari Bro's were awesome, they always let me in for free....This gym is #1 gym in the State..I live 1.25 hours away..Wish I lived closer, there are some monsters in there..So my motivation came back.

Trained light but high reps.

I'm glad I made the trip down..went into the posing room with Jamie Pinder IFBB pro fitness female..Worked in with Tabitha Klausen IFBB pro Fitness (absolutely drop dead gorgeous..to die for) and a bunch of others...these are friends so this was a good thing to line up with some serious athletes..

I even got a 3 week sneak peak for you guys..remember no dieting and this is all EPI ANDRO.

I still have to say this is "THE BEST" over the counter leaner/hardner product I have EVER used..hands down..I absolutely adore this stuff..If you are a BBer and you are getting ready for a show, you'd be a fool not to try this stuff..This will be a long term product for me...I will stack this with other products..

EPI ANDRO is amazing....10/10 in my opinion. Again, BL/IML does not pay me to say this...if you do not try this product, you are missing out. When you do..Thank me later.

3 weeks on EPI ANDRO SNEAK PEAK
http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u579/StrongmanAlbum/017_zpsdafb6329.jpg (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/StrongmanAlbum/media/017_zpsdafb6329.jpg.html)

O_RYAN_007
07-18-2013, 10:09 PM
Killer!!! Looking great brother!

burlyman30
07-18-2013, 10:53 PM
Killer!!! Looking great brother!

x2, impressive conditioning in addition to the overall thickness of muscle bellies.

JM1000
07-19-2013, 04:26 AM
Looking amazing!

Fat Bill Dwyer
07-19-2013, 09:56 AM
This is why I cut myself.

Freepressright
07-19-2013, 11:17 AM
I feel a Dermacrine Epiando RX cycle coming on, taking my cut to the next level!

WesleyInman
07-19-2013, 12:17 PM
Killer!!! Looking great brother!

O Ryan thank you so much!!! Appreciate it :)

x2, impressive conditioning in addition to the overall thickness of muscle bellies.
Burly, thank you as well..You are always so supportive :) :) :)


Looking amazing!
Hey JM!!!!! THANK YOU :)


This is why I cut myself.
Bill, I will give you and myself a true reason to cut ourselves..this is Tabi..aka Tabitha Klausen ifbb pro who was there. She's a friend I met through the Poundstones years back. EPI ANDRO has a cialis "like" effect...so try working out with her and keeping things "at bay" LOL
http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u579/StrongmanAlbum/tabi1_zpsf01e0dd3.jpg (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/StrongmanAlbum/media/tabi1_zpsf01e0dd3.jpg.html)


I feel a Dermacrine Epiando RX cycle coming on, taking my cut to the next level!

What is Dermacrine EPIandro, or are you saying you know a transdermal version?? Or to make this "epi andro" a transdermal?? Sorry man for the confusion on my end LOL..

I wanna run this stuff even higher dosage. I would like to have bloodwork. In theory it does not effect your liver but Id rather be safe then sorry.

Freepressright
07-19-2013, 12:45 PM
It is my pleasure to introduce you to Dermacrine:

Body Performance Solutions (BPS) Dermacrine (7.9 fl oz): Discount Dermacrine Supplements (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/bulk-performance-solutions/new-dermacrine-130-pumps.html)

This was the flagship topical DHEA/resveratrol/pregenolone supplement launched by Primordial Performance. It's one of the most solid and cost-effective products in its class. Basically, the DHEA, when applied transdermally to the upper trunk, converts to more anabolic hormones (ultimately testosterone). It would be killer with the Epi Andro RX.

ryhigh
07-19-2013, 07:21 PM
Damn man, im jealous lol. Looking awesome brotha!!! Very inspirational!

burlyman30
07-21-2013, 11:00 PM
She's a beauty... wow... to me there is nothing more sexy than a girl who is in great shape.

weekend
07-21-2013, 11:30 PM
crazy caps, definitely looking way leaner on the abs... nice work!

is that gyno pre-existing? has it flared at all from the epi andro?

Freepressright
07-22-2013, 06:18 AM
crazy caps, definitely looking way leaner on the abs... nice work!

is that gyno pre-existing? has it flared at all from the epi andro?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the chance of a gyno flare from a DHT prohormone would be almost nonexistent as active hormones like proviron and masteron are used on testosterone cycles to help combat the effects of gyno and aromitization.

WesleyInman
07-22-2013, 09:00 AM
It is my pleasure to introduce you to Dermacrine:

Body Performance Solutions (BPS) Dermacrine (7.9 fl oz): Discount Dermacrine Supplements (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/bulk-performance-solutions/new-dermacrine-130-pumps.html)

This was the flagship topical DHEA/resveratrol/pregenolone supplement launched by Primordial Performance. It's one of the most solid and cost-effective products in its class. Basically, the DHEA, when applied transdermally to the upper trunk, converts to more anabolic hormones (ultimately testosterone). It would be killer with the Epi Andro RX.
Thank you..I have zero experience on this product. Seems interesting though. I take it you swear by this product?? Is this similar to the PP andro hard everyone was talking about?? Do you have any type of feedback in terms of gains you have seen and/or sides?? Id certainly be down to try it if it is legit.



Damn man, im jealous lol. Looking awesome brotha!!! Very inspirational!
Thank you Ry :) Very much appreciated :)


She's a beauty... wow... to me there is nothing more sexy than a girl who is in great shape.
Agreed. Tabi is gorgeous. She is like 5'10 or 5'11, all of it is her legs. When I stand next to her she towers over me LOL...She certainly draws attention...I almost feel bad for a girl that hot though bc, us being guys, most guys I hear are like man, I'd like to bang that girl....LOL...I've never heard a guy say they want to put a ring on her finger,or even date her..and she is certainly the relationship type, not the first date type whatsoever.


crazy caps, definitely looking way leaner on the abs... nice work!

is that gyno pre-existing? has it flared at all from the epi andro?
Thank you, yeah mid section is seriously hard as a rock. My obliques, the pics don't really do justice, in person I swear to you they are hard as a rock and you can see all my lines if you look from up close..something I have NEVER seen unless on a strict diet, or on a shitload of HGH.

The pre gyno I have is pre exisiting from a few months ago from an m1-t clone PH. I haven't leaned out enough to care to run Nolva and Cabaser to get rid of it. It's minimal, pea sized...I really don't care enough to get the script for the two and pay pharmacy costs ( I do everything 100% legal and on the books these days)..eventually I will..though I am not worried. I do have a script on hand for arimidex and I might pop some of those to keep it at bay if my high dose EPI starts to convert. In theory EPI is supposed to be an anti-gyno compound but I know a few people who have reported it on high dose EPI believe it or not.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the chance of a gyno flare from a DHT prohormone would be almost nonexistent as active hormones like proviron and masteron are used on testosterone cycles to help combat the effects of gyno and aromitization.
Stanolone is known to treat gyno, so is epi...but with that being said and done I am convinced anything can happen with any compound. I have seen guys get gyno from IGF-1..which you will hear is impossible as well. But yes I agree with you overall. I think the odds are very very low that someone would develop pregyno from this product..but not impossible :)



Monday 7/21/2013
DAY 28 of beta test

Bw=204lbs

Let me go back over the previous two workouts on 7/18 and 7/19..my apologies but I have been too busy with my little one to post until now.

7/18

Back and Bicep Day

Supinated Dumbells Curls (weights listed per hand)
20x20 warmup
25x20
35x10
45x10

Dumbell Rows (weights listed per hand, worked both left and right..I do one side rest 2 mins and then do the other side aka Left and Right Lats.)
55x20 warmups
100x20
150x10
150x10
150x20 each..too light, but these certainly leave me winded.

Hammer Curls
50x10
60x10
70x10

Seated Cable Rows (rack=300lbs)
150x10 warmup
rackx6
rackx6
rackx10
rack + 45lb plate hangingx6
rack + 45lb plate x6

Drag Curls
40x10
40x10
40x10

Cardio,abs and obliques, called it a day

7/19/2013

Leg Day 2, light day
Leg Extensions (super slow controlled, and paused)
45lbsx30
45x30
45x30

Squats (super narrow stance, pause in the full squat position, and lift slowly)
135x20
225x10
225x10
225x10

Leg Extensions, part 2 (working on bringing out striations for final after pics later this week)
45x20
45x20

Seated Calves
A bunch of slow controlled sets squeeze at top and pause with 45lbs on seated machine, super light.

Cardio, abs, obliques and called it day.

Again my body was just sore and beatup for Saturday's session, overall the entire past few weeks. Super low on energy. Still didn't get my Angel Dust yet. Really wish I had a pre workout supplement on hand. I generally will use ECA for days I am too sore or just flat, but I have been using nothing stimulant wise. Sometimes I will buy a Baby Blue Monster..but I really want the Angel Dust for my next beta test.

Anyways, in regards to the supplement EPI ANDRO..same thing I have been saying all along. Certainly is drying me out, so the last few workouts I had achey knees, wrists, elbows, shoulders, etc..every joint was achey. Again this happens to me with things like winny and hgh..so this is nothing new for me, I always respond like this to such compounds..and the Epi Andro is no different. I would make sure if you have joint aches on dry runs like me that you properly rest, hydrate and maybe even a joint supplement like cissus, or IML makes a joint product FLEX RX, but I cannot say that I have ever tried it.

Again, body looks fantastic. Loving the lean dry hard look. Probably most noticeable in my mid section and obliques.

My body seems to really have adapted to this product well..I dont even notice ANY sides at this point other then the dry joints. Oily skin seems to have subsided.

A few days left. I have some pics to take, the New Haven Powerhouse Video to edit and put together and then the track and field sprint video which I have scheduled for Weds evening. I will probably only hit 1-2 sprints in the video, hit the 4.0 range for a 40yd dash and post it. I will not be doing a full track video right now bc my left calf and achilles is bothering me.

Also I have had many questions about Strongman.

1) You do not have to have any experience to compete in Amateur Strongman. A good association is NAS (north american strongman) North American Strongman © | Working together to give you the best opportunities to compete and take strongman as far as you want. (http://www.nastrongman.com). You pay your license fee, find a show and show up..its that simple. There are novice divisions, open class, 175lbs and under, 200 weight class, 231 weight class, 231-265 weight class and HW is anything over 231lbs in some shows, and over 265lbs in others, each show may differ. Different levels of competition, gold and platinum being for the stronger and more advanced. There are teen and women divisions too. People must realize, bodybuilding and strongman are two different forms of strength. People with manual labor jobs or skills tend to do better in Strongman then someone who sits behind a desk all day.

2) Pro Strongman has only 2 divisions : Lightweight and heavyweight. Lightweight is anything under 231lbs. HW is anything above it. Americas Strongest Man is an association you can compete in.

3) There are only a few ways to get a Pro Card during the year. You must compete in Gold or Platinum level shows and place 1st to 3rd to get an invite to Nationals. Nationals is once per year. Winner gets a pro card. Most times you will have 30-60 competitors in each weight class to get a card...so it is not easy. Strongest Man does not always win that day.

4) Any other questions, just ask..and I will be happy to help anyone get started.

5) Many people have asked for some footage w me and Derek and our crew..Look at his channel on YouTube and you will see a ton of footage, 2007-2010 was when we took a ton of video. Also here is a Muscular Development video with us in it. I make an appearance 2 mins in. Don't be shocked I have hair. I also cannot speak because they interviewed me the second I did a 700lb yoke for 100ft...I literally was out of breathe.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/robbietv/2132-mhp-derek-poundstone-strongman-training-series-part-2-of-2.html


Thanks Everyone :)

Freepressright
07-22-2013, 10:10 AM
Wesley,

Dermacrine was Primordial Performance's flagship product. It's what put them on the map as a company. It has been around for close to a decade and had a huge following.

It's absolutely, 100% legit. It is most useful used in conjunction with a stronger compound. For example, Epistaine (true methylepistanolol) works splendidly with Dermacrine because Dermacrine provides the test base, as Epi is a dry compound. It merries perfectly with Ultradrol or really well with 1-Androsterone.

While 1-Andro or 1-DHEA (a 1-testosterone precursor) will shut down your sex drive and give you lethargy, Dermacrine will counter those side effects nicely and provide an anabolic boost.

On its own, it is not a huge bulker. But it's fantastic for recomp, and the neuro-steroidal effects on the mind are amazing. It will light your sex drive on fire, too. It's one of the best compounds in its class.

Many users on this forum have run it and will echo my sentiments. I actually had a big part in a Dermacrine resurgence. Primordial tried to phase it out with the introduction of the AndroSeries, but demand was such that the company could not ignore it and the product was brought back. There's a reason why it's beloved by so many.

ryhigh
07-22-2013, 11:55 AM
FPR lovessss him some dermacrine :D

VayneZ
07-24-2013, 07:19 PM
Wes, you are like a hybrid of a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. The strength you have with the definition and low bodyfat is just amazing bro!

ryhigh
07-24-2013, 08:12 PM
Wes, you are like a hybrid of a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. The strength you have with the definition and low bodyfat is just amazing bro!

X2... And feel free to post up more pics of your lady friend lol :D

nate3993
07-24-2013, 10:32 PM
So besides ur trt script, your just taking the epiandro at 4 pills a day? I mean. My god. I almost question if the dose is higher in the caps, or they put something else in em because I've never seen anyone be so giddy about just 200mg of stanolone, and get such good results(not questioning you, just the pills. I believe you really have noticed a lot from it) and 200 mg can't be all that supressive. That's tight though. As far as I'm concerned, I think this is one of most positive stanolone logs I've ever seen and one of the smallest doses too!

WesleyInman
07-24-2013, 11:41 PM
FreePress, I have a client who just ordered a similar version today and is going to test it out..so I will wait and see his reviews!!!! THANK YOU for taking the time to clarify, stuff sounds legit :)


Wes, you are like a hybrid of a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. The strength you have with the definition and low bodyfat is just amazing bro!
Thanks VayneZ :) lol..yeah I am a Strongman trapped in a bodybuilders body :) When I first started competing I was super tan, with abs, leaner then now and everyone used to tease me, friendly but joked I was at the wrong place. When I started taking 1st place every show, then guys asked for tanning and ab tips :)


X2... And feel free to post up more pics of your lady friend lol :D
Just for you here is a whole display of images. Tabi is so hot it's almost depressing. But try to enjoy :)
tabitha leandri - Yahoo! Image Search Results (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-107&sz=all&va=tabitha+leandri)


So besides ur trt script, your just taking the epiandro at 4 pills a day? I mean. My god. I almost question if the dose is higher in the caps, or they put something else in em because I've never seen anyone be so giddy about just 200mg of stanolone, and get such good results(not questioning you, just the pills. I believe you really have noticed a lot from it) and 200 mg can't be all that supressive. That's tight though. As far as I'm concerned, I think this is one of most positive stanolone logs I've ever seen and one of the smallest doses too!




7/24/2013

Day 30- End of Beta Test
BW=205lbs (-2lbs from start)

WEEK 4- OVERALL REVIEW-

Strength- slightly better in many lifts
Energy- Improved during workout
Muscle Hardness- Excellent Improvement!!
Size- Muscles are harder. I ended up 2 pounds lighter, but I definitely look alot better physique wise, no question about it.
Endurance- Improved for sure.
Cardio Function- Again, improved as I have increased Cardio and the product I feel improves endurance.
Vascularity- Improved.
Aggression- none at all the last week.
Anger- NONE
Depression- NONE
Overall Mood- Good mood, I feel good as I am excited to see my physique improving.
Acne- No new acne
Oily Skin- Not oily week 3 and 4.
Changes in mood/temperment- None. If anything I seem more calm and patient.
Aggression in the Gym- Improved on workout days.
How this effects Sex- More sensitive and more erections during the day continually. Erections peaked at week 2. they were constant during the day.
Sex Drive- Improved
Any sexually related issues- Nothing negative
Nightmares- none
Night Sweats- NONE
Any conversion to gyno/pre-gyno- NONE
liver or kidney issues if they present themselves- None that I am aware of. Urine is not dark, not back pains, nothing on the surface.
Hair thinning- Have not noticed this.
Hair Darkening- Yes my facial hair is darker, the hair on my head is now darker in color still at week 4.
Hair growth- Facial and Chest. I am shaving more often still.
Sleep Issues-Seemed to be up at night the final week urinating more often.
Blood Pressure- No changes so far. I am very sensitive to increases in BP, so this is a good sign that it has not changed.
Sweating- still sweating but not as much as the beginning.
Appetite- no change
Heartburn- none at all this week.


Overall Review:

Without being redundant. Simply an amazing product in all ways. 100% happy with this product. Minimal if any sides. Kicked in very quickly and showed its effects. I do think this product will show itself faster on an ecto or mesomorph bodytype, but none the less it will harden you up and lean you out nice and quick.

I would rank this my #2 favorite ProHormone I have ever used.

My top 3 are
1) Boladrol XT oxapharm- (no longer available) think Anadrol but stronger, but just as many if not more sides, great for a bulk and strength gains.
2) Epi Andro RX IML- Essentially oral masteron. Super quick hardening, leaning and vascularity improvements. Some strength increases. Excellent for pre contest or cutting stacks. Minimal sides if any.
3) Epistane- Essentially like Turinabol/winny. Excellent lean muscle and size gains and improvements in strength. Minimal if any sides.

Optimally I would like to do Epistane with Epi Andro RX. Likewise, the product EPI TREN RX is another very very good option for those of you looking for a similar effect.

2morrow starts my Mega Dose epistane run @ 90mgs x 30 days ED, and then I am taking a break from any logs, videos, etc, etc..I am exhausted.

Please feel free to join me on my Facebook page where I will be posting daily or EOD updates on this new beta test.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wesley-Inman/198075523542002?ref=hl

(actually swole source is 1 of 2 forums I will be listing my Epistane log, so you guys can see it here )

Also I have some other "after pics" to try and post up..I have a few that came out blurry...Will try to get even more and I do have some self shot Leg pictures as well. But for now I think even the 3 week after pic speaks volumes. I can say I am a small amount leaner then I was in that pic..but I also have not been tanning, so unfortunately I do not know that I can show the full effects that are visible in person...but trust me when I say it made a huge difference.

Overall, this was alot of work. Hope I gave you guys some good feedback on a product and some decent videos in the meantime. I will be back later this week to throw up whatever photos I can. Thank you again Mr. Dimaggio, PJ Braun and the IML/BL crews for giving me yet another opportunity.

Thanks everyone here for all your support and kind words. Until next time..

and oh yeah, that other video as promised :)

Wesley Inman and Igor Gajic vs 40 yd dash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl7lV4HsMVQ&feature=youtu.be)


Nate, Thank you!!!! And this is just it. I also know how some manafacturer's roll, although I must say I have alot of faith in IML and BL..every product they sell is amazing... so what I did is I had 2 other people purchase their Epi Andro from IML factory direct, no known relation to me. They both ran it the same time as me. Both individuals have reported the very same results as me. Almost exact. So if their is something additional in it, then it's in all the bottles not mine. But the thing is, I have never experienced this "oral" before and I have tried them all. It really is "masteron" in a pill..and I have never had it before, so even if it was "loaded" I can't say I know with what!! But I highly recommend it!!!

nate3993
07-25-2013, 10:26 AM
I think u forgot the reply to mine haha

WesleyInman
07-25-2013, 11:52 AM
I think u forgot the reply to mine haha

Huh, thats odd, I typed a lengthy reply actually..sorry I will try to say word for word what i did though :)

In regards to the capsules being loaded. I know how many manafacturers roll..mind you I believe IML and BL have an excellent reputation..but just in case I had 2 other athletes I know buy the EPI ANDRO and take it the same time as me and report their feedback!! They reported IDENTICAL results as I did!! They bought theirs from the factory. So if there was something in the bottles, it is in all of them LOL...But this is just it, I have used EVERY oral AAS there is..and this was not one of them!! This was oral masteron...something I have never experienced!! This was a great product. There is a guy on the IML forums right now starting a log and he is going to do 8 caps per day!!! So if you guys wanna see more reviews on this product, check his out :)

But thanx Nate for following the log and all the kind words!! Much appreciated!!

nate3993
07-25-2013, 03:07 PM
impressive physique too btw :)

ryhigh
07-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Thank you for those pictures, youve made my day! LOL. Sooo you say shes the relationship type huh, sooo how old is she exactly??? Hahaha

Edit, Nate i think he did reply that answer looks very similar to his last paragraph in his reply with the link he put in there for me lol

VayneZ
07-25-2013, 06:49 PM
Wes, you are just all around bro. Power, Definition, Speed. I mean, just following your way of posting, I know you're an honest and legit kind of person. But bro, to actually see how much speed you can produce, in the video, despite all that muscle weight, it just blew me away.

You're an example to many of us here bro. We learn from you man. Thanks for all the details you have shared, and especially that trap workout bro! :cool:

LBC-83
07-26-2013, 10:05 AM
Damn your trap workout, the burn.....

WesleyInman
07-27-2013, 08:39 AM
impressive physique too btw :)

Thank you!!


Thank you for those pictures, youve made my day! LOL. Sooo you say shes the relationship type huh, sooo how old is she exactly??? Hahaha

Edit, Nate i think he did reply that answer looks very similar to his last paragraph in his reply with the link he put in there for me lol
LOL! I think she is in her late 20's..I never actually asked her :)


Wes, you are just all around bro. Power, Definition, Speed. I mean, just following your way of posting, I know you're an honest and legit kind of person. But bro, to actually see how much speed you can produce, in the video, despite all that muscle weight, it just blew me away.

You're an example to many of us here bro. We learn from you man. Thanks for all the details you have shared, and especially that trap workout bro! :cool:
Wow VayneZ that is such a very nice compliment. Thank you so much!! You have been so supportive :) Likewise to you and the SS crew, you guys have taught me several things, I have learned about several new products and product lines, and can't wait to see what else you guys can teach me..I'm always looking to learn more. Thank you very much man :)

Damn your trap workout, the burn.....

:) :) :) Awesome, happy you liking it.


Still have to post a couple pics, been super busy.

Also, started the EPI beta test, just have to make a thread about it :)