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campcoll88
07-09-2013, 02:47 AM
Week
1
2
3
4
5


Phera
10
10,10,10,20
20
20
20


Max LMG
100mg
100
100
100
100


Prototype 11-Spray
30 sprays
30
30
30
30


PHF Mint
15 mg
15
15
15
15


AMS 4-AD
3
3
3
3
3


5-Alpha Test
1
1
1
1
1



Will be running 5 week bulk this winter. Goal is to gain as much mass as possible.
Will be using formasurge at 4 pumps daily.
I have letro, caber, and exemastane on hand. Do you guys think I will need to run either of these?
Forma has done a good job on current and past cycles.

blueboogie
07-30-2013, 05:21 PM
Week
1
2
3
4
5


Phera
10
10,10,10,20
20
20
20


Max LMG
100mg
100
100
100
100


Prototype 11-Spray
30 sprays
30
30
30
30


PHF Mint
15 mg
15
15
15
15


AMS 4-AD
3
3
3
3
3


5-Alpha Test
1
1
1
1
1



Will be running 5 week bulk this winter. Goal is to gain as much mass as possible.
Will be using formasurge at 4 pumps daily.
I have letro, caber, and exemastane on hand. Do you guys think I will need to run either of these?
Forma has done a good job on current and past cycles.

Here's what I would do with those compounds:

1) drop the 11-spray or save it for the few weeks after Phera/LMG before PCT.
2) If Mentabolan is just for the purpose of pre-workout, increase it to 25+mg, or replace it with it's father, MENT (Trestolone).
3) Increase the Phera to 30mg all the way through if you have enough. It is not impressive at 10mg, or even 20mg really. Maybe start at 20, then increase to 30 at some point if you need to stretch out a bottle.
4) I know less about the new 4-AD and 5-Alpha Test than the old school 4-AD and 1-AD, but I'm guessing it doesn't produce enough Test to compete with Phera for purposes of lethargy reduction.

Diet is gonna dictate how much mass you gain. A guy could run Phera at 30mg ED for 5 weeks but not eat enough and only put on 5lbs. I don't anticipate 11-spray, 5-Alpha Test, and 4-Andro are gonna play much of a role in this cycle if you want to save that money. If you already have it all, maybe trade it away or save it for a followup recomp.

Run exemestane, and keep the letro on hand for an emergency. Formasurge should be sufficient, but if you want certainty, use exemestane. And Caber would be wise because of the LMG, but it's not necessary. Since you already have it, just use it. .5mg twice a week. It's one of those things you don't really notice much. Some say they feel like Viagra on it. I never did.

campcoll88
08-01-2013, 02:05 PM
Word. I'm about to have eaten all my Mentabolan on this run since I dropped Mithras so thats out and I'm dropping 11-spray since I traded it for some goodies. So itll just be Phera/LMG with 4-ad dosed higher at 5 daily and 5-Alpha at 1 daily.

Will have trestolone on hand as well but from past experience this dose of 4-ad/5-alpha does plenty to prevent lethargy ,but its a relatively short run IMO so it may not be an issue for very long anyways.