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longBallLima
10-13-2013, 05:43 PM
So, started my cycle last thursday. The goal is to hit a bodybuilding show in late Feb as a heavyweight. The hope is to hit around 250 (im aabout 230 now) before i start cutting, all the way down to 220
Currently, the plan is:

-Test Cyp (Pharma Grade) 400 mg/week (200 e2d in fact)
-Eq 600mg/week (300 e2d)
-HCG at 340mcg every other shot day (Comes to e4d)

Come cut time, things will change, couple of weeks before, I'll be switching to prop (which unfortunately will be UGL), probably sticking with the EQ, throwing some var in, but there are still a few variables

One of those is that I have 4g of trestolone acetate, and given the scarcity of logs and info, I'm not sure where and when to run it. Not sure I wanna be on it on stage, or if I wanna use it during the bulk... anyway, was planning an 8-10 week run. Might do a couple of weeks of an experimental run starting 2 weeks from now

On hand I have exemestane, tamoxifen, raloxifen, clomid... Nothing for prolactin aside from a half bottle of prolactrone, but I think that's about it.

Running same talos, fish oil, diet, water, bla bla bla lol

so for the initial questions: does my hcg schedule look decent? i kept forgetting last time around, so just figured it'd be easier to have it with a shot day.

What would you guys do as far as the trest?

Does my test look ok at 400 being that pharma might be a little more appropriately dosed?


Oh, and I forgot to mention, my bac water for the HCG is fukkin human grade! :P

Bucks
10-13-2013, 05:59 PM
I'm interested on the Trest Ace as well. I've been thinking about doing a run of it. I've read 75mg each Trest Ace / Test P EOD is going well for 12-20 wks.

I use HCG with a 10 K ample lasting 10-11 weeks so I maybe a little high with dosage but I load before leaving on trips.

longBallLima
10-13-2013, 06:58 PM
I'm interested on the Trest Ace as well. I've been thinking about doing a run of it. I've read 75mg each Trest Ace / Test P EOD is going well for 12-20 wks.

I use HCG with a 10 K ample lasting 10-11 weeks so I maybe a little high with dosage but I load before leaving on trips.


how often do you pin your hcg during ur cycle?

thanks!

Bucks
10-13-2013, 07:19 PM
how often do you pin your hcg during ur cycle?

thanks!

Usually 3 times per week.(300 IU) When I travel I do Monday morning with a high dose (600 IU) and then usually come back on Friday regular dose. (300 IU)

I find for me the day after a high dose I'm super horny .

weekend
10-13-2013, 08:07 PM
i have been doing 200 iu MWF with the livzon from evolved.

it's working great but i may increase dose at some point. not sure.

is one iu of hcg one mcg?

longBallLima
10-14-2013, 02:44 AM
i have been doing 200 iu MWF with the livzon from evolved.

it's working great but i may increase dose at some point. not sure.

is one iu of hcg one mcg?

5000 mcg for 250 units of BACW, so 20 mcg per unit, pinning 17 units every 4 days

seems like evolved is measured IU and mine (indian pharma) is 5000 mcg. i always thought/read it to be the same thing. mah being dumb?

milehighguy
10-14-2013, 08:09 AM
So, started my cycle last thursday. The goal is to hit a bodybuilding show in late Feb as a heavyweight. The hope is to hit around 250 (im aabout 230 now) before i start cutting, all the way down to 220
Currently, the plan is:

-Test Cyp (Pharma Grade) 400 mg/week (200 e2d in fact)
-Eq 600mg/week (300 e2d)
-HCG at 340mcg every other shot day (Comes to e4d)

Good luck with your run above and the upcoming show! Keep us up to date please.

And tell us how you really feel about pharma versus UGL!!!

;)

longBallLima
10-14-2013, 02:08 PM
Good luck with your run above and the upcoming show! Keep us up to date please.

And tell us how you really feel about pharma versus UGL!!!

;)

absolutely, thanks for following, man! and as for UGL X Pharma, I expect to see a difference specially on the Bac Water after reading one of the logs of our beloved ippy lol

Jelisej
10-14-2013, 04:10 PM
HCG you can do EOD or 3 times a week, 3 times a week is more simple, and is good enough... 250-300-ish is OK, tough if there is need dose can be increased somewhat. Generally no more than 500 IU per shot and less than 2000 IU per week should be used.
Lot of sources and even research agrees that soemwhere between 250-300 is sweet spot.
I saw some research which said that 306 IU EOD gives maximum output, and I saw other which says that 250 IU is sweet spot and in same research it was pointed out that 250 IU is actually more effective than 500 IU.

burlyman30
10-14-2013, 04:19 PM
This, this, and this ^^^

longBallLima
10-14-2013, 06:33 PM
HCG you can do EOD or 3 times a week, 3 times a week is more simple, and is good enough... 250-300-ish is OK, tough if there is need dose can be increased somewhat. Generally no more than 500 IU per shot and less than 2000 IU per week should be used.
Lot of sources and even research agrees that soemwhere between 250-300 is sweet spot.
I saw some research which said that 306 IU EOD gives maximum output, and I saw other which says that 250 IU is sweet spot and in same research it was pointed out that 250 IU is actually more effective than 500 IU.


This, this, and this ^^^

thanks fellas! gonna move to e3d day and drop a lil then. I went with e4d for no other reason than doing a better job at not forggeting it lol

Jelisej
10-15-2013, 06:32 AM
thanks fellas! gonna move to e3d day and drop a lil then. I went with e4d for no other reason than doing a better job at not forggeting it lol

Do it mon, wed. fri. Its just simple and straightforward, every third day is not sufficient IMO.

longBallLima
10-15-2013, 11:04 AM
hah, so EOD-ish. I'll run 260 then. Thanks J!