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longBallLima
01-23-2014, 11:29 AM
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Freepressright
01-23-2014, 11:52 AM
What do we know about the standardization of the LongJack, or the Mucuna? That absolutely matters. That's why most all tribulus studies are flawed. Standardizations are unknown.

I cannot vouch for LongJack or Mucuna personally, but I know damn well Intimidate has worked well for me in the past. Interesting.

weekend
01-23-2014, 11:56 AM
NMDA being absorbed directly by the stomach in small doses does not make sense physiologically. You sure it's not a placebo FPR? There may be a secret ingredient lol

Freepressright
01-23-2014, 11:59 AM
I know I'm certainly not alone in my experience. Several here on this board will tell you the same story I do.

If you can absorb D-aspartic acid through the stomach, why not N-methyl D-aspartic Acid?

longBallLima
01-23-2014, 12:37 PM
D-Aspartic has suffered some debunking recently too, though I'll admit I don't know standardization and such

BTW, just realized. on the full study it seems like they mention what product was used.

longBallLima
01-23-2014, 12:42 PM
oh and wait. we're talking about synthetic products, not herbs. is there a variation in standard in that case?

weekend
01-23-2014, 12:47 PM
You can absorb them but the dose is so small that it's not going to end up in any type of target tissue.

NMDA is one of the most important neurotransmitters, and I don't see a few mg effecting anything at all.

D aspartic makes more sense to me just with the higher dose... But still studies are inconclusive

Freepressright
01-23-2014, 12:55 PM
You can absorb them but the dose is so small that it's not going to end up in any type of target tissue.

NMDA is one of the most important neurotransmitters, and I don't see a few mg effecting anything at all.

D aspartic makes more sense to me just with the higher dose... But still studies are inconclusive

I'm trying to get Vaughn Dubrow from iForce in here to discuss this. There are enough Intimidate and Intimidate SRT logs out there, and users right here, that I have a hard time believing that NMDA has no merit.

longBallLima
01-23-2014, 01:27 PM
i've used it twice. once i think it may have done something, but looking back, it may have been wishful thinking. the second time it was during PCT. my libido was tanked, but that could be a number of different things.

either way, i can't say i felt anything definitive other than super awesome farts to "entertain" my wife

Freepressright
01-23-2014, 01:31 PM
Talked to Vaughn via e-mail. Apparently the study used this product:

Nmda by Muscle Warfare - Buy Nmda 90 Capsules at vitamin shoppe (http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/muscle-warfare-nmda-90-capsules/m2-1010#.UuFtnrQo6Uk)

Look around the net at the reviews on this stuff and you'll find most are disappointed, whereas you have quite different and more positive feedback regarding Intimidate, which has a 99% purity rating. Apparently Muscle Warfare is known for using bunk/junk ingredients.

VaughnTrue
01-23-2014, 02:34 PM
Talked to Vaughn via e-mail. Apparently the study used this product:

Nmda by Muscle Warfare - Buy Nmda 90 Capsules at vitamin shoppe (http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/muscle-warfare-nmda-90-capsules/m2-1010#.UuFtnrQo6Uk)

Look around the net at the reviews on this stuff and you'll find most are disappointed, whereas you have quite different and more positive feedback regarding Intimidate, which has a 99% purity rating. Apparently Muscle Warfare is known for using bunk/junk ingredients.

This is correct. Look at the ingredient panel. A 35mg blend, with DAA being before NMDA? That means at MOST it's 17.5mg of NMDA, but in reality we all know how pixie dusting works.

Someone using 30mg/day of pure NMDA will have very different results than this.

sunTzu
01-25-2014, 08:57 AM
i've used it twice. once i think it may have done something, but looking back, it may have been wishful thinking. the second time it was during PCT. my libido was tanked, but that could be a number of different things.

either way, i can't say i felt anything definitive other than super awesome farts to "entertain" my wifeA complete blood panel would remedy any insufficient beliefs. A blood panel after nothing but that one single substance. (as far as testosterone is concerned)

Jelisej
05-19-2014, 03:48 PM
Tongkat ali does boost testosterone but it has to be certain strenght and from good sources- most, if not all tongkat ali you can buy in shops is not good.
I dont think that tongat ali would be good enough for PCT, but as a booster would be good, only thing is as most of natural supplements that enhance libido it becomes inefficent very quickly so it has to be used few days on few days, it may be same as with resveratrol 5on 2 off.
It is my favourite natural testbooster (and libido booster) though I dont use it often, and not for long time when I do use it.

As for mucuna- its function is to lower prolactin which sometimes can increase testosterone but usually not. It also raises growth hormone somewhat.

As for tribulus- that is supplement that I dont quite understand, as blood tests show no real improvement, and for majority of people it has no real effect- but for some it seems it does work in increasing strenght and libido (somewhat).


DAA I dont like at all, as a matter of fact- I'm one of biggest opponents of DAA usage, as it potential sides are much bigger than benefits. BTW NMDA is used in animal tests to induce damage in brain cells.