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You could do sumo deads, stiff leg deads, weighted lunges, calf raises body weight to failure x 3, would prob start that day by full stretching. But I wouldn't personally run 2 leg days into each other.
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This will be day #3 on legs. Can't do deads, too much stress on my shoulder right now. Sticking to things where I don't have to move at all. Already going to hands on the hack squats.
VayneZ
07-01-2014, 07:45 PM
Bro, I was reading on your shoulder problem. That is one of the worst things ever, to get injuries (especially shoulder) while on cycle. Do you feel any sense of recovery though? or does the pain remain the same?
Bro, I was reading on your shoulder problem. That is one of the worst things ever, to get injuries (especially shoulder) while on cycle. Do you feel any sense of recovery though? or does the pain remain the same?
As much as I want to say no because of the whole not being able to hit upper body, there have been improvements. Day #1 I couldn't even move it. I can now move it anywhere with just slight pain in areas, definitely lacking strength though.
What are the odds that the superdmz is bunk? I got it from an authorized IML retailer, I'm just not feeling anything other than sweat.
As a side note, I got new clen. Hopping back on at 50mcg, upping the dosage as I feel necessary for the next two weeks.
Other good news. The pump today was out of this world. I don't even have big legs :(, but they were complimented by multiple people saying my calves and legs looked huge. I can actually say that they looked inflated today.
Leg press: 3x30 at 5 plates a side, 3x8 at 9 plates a side, dropsets 9 plates down to 1.
Hack sqauts: didn't count sets/reps/weight.
Leg extensions: 20 sets of 10, 10 second rest between each set.
Leg extension one leg: 3x20, no resting. Focusing on the contraction and "lockout" portion of the movement.
Hamstring curls: 20x10 with 10 second rest. 3x8 slow paused.
calf raises: didn't count sets/reps
I couldn't really walk after this, so no cardio.
Killed it today. Absolutely no other way to describe the workout. I'm disgustingly sore, but oh well?
Legs again. I was able to do regular squats with a wide grip when using kt tape. Squat shoes make all the difference in the world.
Back squats:
135x20
225x10
315x8
405x3
225x50 pause and go as needed. This was miserable after 35.
Leg extensions
20 sets of 10, 10 second rest
Hamstring curls
20 sets of 10, 10 second rest
Calf raises
abs
20 minutes cardio
cramps are starting to kick in from the clen. Upped it to 100mcg. Loving it. The shakes are a little sketchy, but it's not so much in the hands, more-so with my knees/legs.
weekend
07-03-2014, 01:27 PM
Fuck you 225 is miserable after 20 and I completely fail at 25 lol
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And that's coming from a 185 warm up. I can't even squat 405 so I don't even know what's going on
Fuck you 225 is miserable after 20 and I completely fail at 25 lol
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And that's coming from a 185 warm up. I can't even squat 405 so I don't even know what's going on
Warmup with the bar, then throw 135 and just sit in the hole for a while on each rep. After this I just go straight towards my working sets with 45's. Seems to really help when I sit in the hole to stretch everything out. Do you use a belt? It makes all the difference in the world for me for keeping my core tight and form on point. Also, give a 5/3/1 program a try on squats. Still do hypertrophy movements and higher reps after this, but going heavy for low reps really helped up my strength. Only downside is that I did this too long with benching/shoulders/back and am starting to feel it now...
225x50 was rest/pause though. Didn't re rack, but I had to stand as if I was doing lunges for about 10-15 seconds every now and then just to take a breather, then get back into form and go at it.
EDIT
After training, before my cardio, I experienced an ab cramp that rendered me immobile for about 15 minutes straight. All I could do was lay on the ground in pain. Gotta up my water and potassium intake a bit.
VayneZ
07-03-2014, 05:10 PM
On what Weekend said... even if you rest with that weight on your dead exhausted legs.... 50?!?! What kind of machine are you?!
I think the most I ever did, which was solid below parallel at 225 was about 27... and I was aiming for 30 but just could NOT reach it :(
These weren't your ordinary rests, lets establish that. I literally stood like a lunge and just poured sweat everywhere. Music blasting and had a cardio bunny for motivation right in front of me :D
The sad thing is, my legs are a genetically weak point, like my chest :( I can move lots of weight, but ehhh I'm done with that and need to focus on reps a bit more.
I took that whole 50 rep challenge thing that t nation had to the test. Throw your bodyweight on and blast it out for 50 reps and pause as needed. I'm probably a bit under 225, but it's close enough.
EDIT
Saturday marks 1 week off from any upper body movements. I will train upper again on saturday with a light full body workout. Fuck injuries, gains need to be made.
hollllllly fuck I was scarred shitless this morning. Messed up my dosing. Thought I was taking 1ml nolva, ended up with 200mcg clen total from the wrong bottle. Realized it a few minutes later. Flooded myself with water, bananas, salt, and food. Little shaky still, but it's all good now.
legs again. Had to cut back the volume, I can't physically do another day of this. So drained.
Squats
135x20
185x15
225x15
315x10
405x2
405x1
405x1
315x5
leg extensions
20x10, 10 seconds rest between each set
Hamstring curls
20x10, 10 seconds rest between each set
calf raises
Bucks
07-04-2014, 12:18 PM
Dude I've done that myself. I had been drinking and I thought I was dosing some Viagra . (Bottles were the same colors)
Well I got done fucking and I'm thinking I should be going to sleep with the alcohol and sex. Holy heart rate !! I don't do well with Clen anyway , shakes all night, cramps, HR @ 140 laying down, wow it was a bad night and I couldn't work the next day either.
I think the most I ever used was 60mcg and that night I took like 240. Not good for an old guy.
Keep killing it man!
Dude I've done that myself. I had been drinking and I thought I was dosing some Viagra . (Bottles were the same colors)
Well I got done fucking and I'm thinking I should be going to sleep with the alcohol and sex. Holy heart rate !! I don't do well with Clen anyway , shakes all night, cramps, HR @ 140 laying down, wow it was a bad night and I couldn't work the next day either.
I think the most I ever used was 60mcg and that night I took like 240. Not good for an old guy.
Keep killing it man!
Laying down I was at 130ish. Kind of scary to tell you the truth, I could hear my heart beating through headphones. Hey, mistakes happen and the best thing you can always do is lay down, eat something, and just flush it out with water as much as possible.
I'm going to try upper body tomorrow. Just empty barbells to see how it goes, then move to some light machine presses/pulls.
Felt great today. Honestly so happy with where I'm at in a week. Tried a little bit of everything. Did a lot of stretching first.
Squats
135x25, 225x10, 315x10, 405x4, DROPSET 315x7, 225x8, 135x9
Dumbell curls
10lbsx30, 15lbsx20, 20lbsx20, 30lbsx10 stopped there, didn't want to go remotely heavy yet.
Hammer curls
3x15 30lbs
Tricep pushdowns of all variations
Machine chest press- I can only do light weight for partial reps, can't lock out. The good news is, I can still feel my chest working a bit so hopefully I won't lose anything.
Machine rows- I can do these, but can't lockout with my arms at full extension. These will definitely be my friend for the next x amount of weeks.
Pulldowns- ehhhhh risky. Shoulder clicked a bit. Didn't hurt as long as I didn't lock out at the top, but can't risk it yet.
Two arm dumbell rows- Felt great, never liked these until now.
Lateral raises- only tried 10 lbs, not full ROM, but they felt fine. Don't want to risk it yet as these would strain them.
Deadlifts!!!!!!!!!!!- ZERO PAIN. Pulled 405 for just 5 reps since I was beyond sweaty and beat from all the squatting this week. I just have to keep my shoulders tensed.
Well here's an update.
Been icing and doing pt work with my shoulder. Progress is definitely happening, recovering fast, hopefully I can bench and ohp soon.
Hit some back today. No pain, but still being careful.
Deadlifts
135x10, 225x10, 315x10, 405x15, 495x3, 545x2, 405x8, 315x10
Machine rows (two separate machines here, just did a bunch of sets)
cable rows
250lbs 4x15. No pain, just have to pull low.
Barbell curls
45lbs 3x30. Turned them more into drag curls.
Added in some chest at the end.
Machine presses. Was able to get up to 200lbs before experiencing any pain. Not great, but hey, it's in the right direction.
Abs
20 minutes cardio.
I'm really sweaty from the clen and super dmz, but no change in feeling. Kind of disappointing, the dmz better kick in soon.
^ did legs again yesterday. I seriously need a couple days off from legs, my knees are starting to feel it from all the squatting.
Going to hit chest today. Hopefully this goes well. Second week on cycle and haven't felt shit. I'm really regretting using an oral instead of just pinning the first time... Feel like it's a complete waste of $$ and time so far.
VayneZ
07-09-2014, 12:26 PM
^ did legs again yesterday. I seriously need a couple days off from legs, my knees are starting to feel it from all the squatting.
Going to hit chest today. Hopefully this goes well. Second week on cycle and haven't felt shit. I'm really regretting using an oral instead of just pinning the first time... Feel like it's a complete waste of $$ and time so far.
Maybe because your test levels are already way too high :p
You must have monster legs by now. I'm getting SICK of my cycle. It's def working but just can't handle the pressure and sides this time. Maybe I'm getting old
Maybe because your test levels are already way too high :p
You must have monster legs by now. I'm getting SICK of my cycle. It's def working but just can't handle the pressure and sides this time. Maybe I'm getting old
haha. Legs seem to have lost some definition, but that always happens for me. Takes a couple days then they look good again.
As for the sides, maybe just stick to real gear? Lets face it, there are way less sides and better results.
Hit chest today. Surprisingly, this went very well. Didn't do a ton, but I just had to play it by feel.
no pain on incline benching, got up to 185 (not heavy, but I'm just apprehensive). Flat bench with barbell and dumbell caused pain. I can machine press and incline press, so that's what I have going for me right now.
Extending the cycle an extra two weeks. Finally starting to feel something on week #2. Woke up way more vascular than usual.
I'll pick up another bottle of dmz 3.0 and up it to 3 caps a day.
EDIT
Yep, definitely kicked in. I still can't train super heavy because of my shoulder, but I can hit higher rep ranges. This is actually a good thing for me probably. Monstrous pump today when taken with 5mg taladafil an hour before my workout. My arms just blew up after a couple sets of curls and pushdowns. No CGBP or skullcrushers for now :(, but I could get used to these types of pumps :D
VayneZ
07-11-2014, 09:05 PM
We want some pictures! :D
Hopefully your shoulder will heal at least halfway through, so you can really feel the effects overall of the cycle. How long are you planning on running it for now?
We want some pictures! :D
Hopefully your shoulder will heal at least halfway through, so you can really feel the effects overall of the cycle. How long are you planning on running it for now?
I'll get some pics later this week. Leaning out nicely, still looking a little soft though. Chest/shoulders look deflated from the lack of training on them :(. I might add in some light lateral raises or incline presses every day for the sake of mobility and to get a little stimulation. I can incline press without pain, but I need to be careful.
Extending it from 4 to 6 weeks.
Felt extremely weak today. Shoulder was ehhhh the whole time. Did some deadlifts and could barely get 5 plates?
Just a bad day overall. I need to refeed/cheat. Someone give me an idea for a quality cheat meal.
Picture sucks, but oh well. I need a new phone, camera decides to randomly get blurry on me :(
http://i57.tinypic.com/2j5cb9s.jpg
EDIT
friendly reminder that I have not hit shoulders or really heavy upper in general in ages.
Traps are definitely growing though. Somehow all this squatting is working :D Maybe not for my legs like planned, but hey, growth is growth.
necropuppy
07-13-2014, 03:33 PM
Looking pretty jacked bro
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necropuppy
07-13-2014, 03:35 PM
Felt extremely weak today. Shoulder was ehhhh the whole time. Did some deadlifts and could barely get 5 plates?
Just a bad day overall. I need to refeed/cheat. Someone give me an idea for a quality cheat meal.
Tijuana flats followed by a brick of flan.
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Tijuana flats followed by a brick of flan.
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Too late. Double cheese pizza with pep/sausage, tiramisu, and some breadsticks. I regret nothing. Haven't had pizza in ages, made it taste that much better.
Bucks
07-13-2014, 07:38 PM
Looking good man. Keep working around the injury.
^Thanks! Trying my best here. Gonna hit some light lateral raises on a daily basis to keep some activation.
I need to get a leg pic up. Melanotan starting to take effect, really helped bring out more separation along my quads.
Hit a little bit of everything
Got some chest in. HOLY PUMP. when you don't train it for that long, it's insane.
Did I mention I actually hit chest? Like 100lb incline dumbell presses for 8 reps with no pain? Not insane or anything, but I couldn't do that a week ago with this injury. Heck, I probably couldn't do it a few days ago.
VayneZ
07-16-2014, 11:46 AM
Pretty meaty pic. Pure beast man. If I were in your shoes, had your strength and age, I would choose professional powerlifting as my career :rolleyes:
Pretty meaty pic. Pure beast man. If I were in your shoes, had your strength and age, I would choose professional powerlifting as my career :rolleyes:
Haha. I don't think I'll make it that long. I'm actually ditching the whole low rep thing and sticking higher for now.
sure, I love doing heavy singles on deads/squats/presses, but they are just wayyyyy too harsh on my body long term. (wait, it's only been ~4 years, definitely not even long term :( )
Not sure if I mentioned this, but change to my cycle for the last ~4 weeks.
Ditching dmz 3.0. I think it's the m1t that's giving me the sides. PN Pro gear at 2-3 caps a day instead. Has two of the same compounds, just not the third.
Added in epiandro by PN. :D
EDIT
Pro gear at 2 caps, 3 the last week
500mg epiandro a day
Osta 25mg for the sake of joint health and potential leaning out, been on this though, just upping the dose.
Decided to go with these doses because all the logs I'm looking at are for people that are 160-180lbs, which might be why I didn't feel it for so long.... I'm a big boy and sit around 218lbs, gimme a break :D
Gonna be goooood from here on out. Pumped to see these changes. Back on clen tomorrow, it's awesome seeing how fast clen leans me out, but I seem to lose effect from it after a week and need 1 on/1 off.
Fuck normal training. I was completely in the zone, amped up on clen, PH is fully flowing, and hemavol/noxygen had me BLOWN up.
Hit everything I wanted to today.
Incline barbell
135x20, 185x10, 185x10, 225x6. Shoulders felt a little tight, backed off.
Incline dumbell.
3x8 100lbs
Cable flies all angles
Didn't count anything.
Did some light shoulder pressing with dumbells standing
Decided I wanted to rack pull just to piss off a worker.
3x10 585 with straps, bouncing off the pins.
Some pullups with no pain at all :D
Rear delt flies
Some quality motivation walked in, holy gym sluts. Will pursue later and add to the kill count thread when someone makes it :D 2 for 1 maybe? Yes please.
Decided I wanted to get a bit of a pump without overdoing upper body...
Some curls
cable pushdowns with various grips
At this point, My arms were honestly the tightest they've ever been. Vascularity off the charts.
Grabbed some 100lb dumbells and did hammer curls. Fuck yeah. Cheated, but who cares. Felt badass. Sets of 5 reps.
Cardio
Done.
VayneZ
07-17-2014, 01:34 PM
madness... That's where it's at yo! :cool:
madness... That's where it's at yo! :cool:
hahaha. I'm mixed on this cycle though. I'm extremely pissed off, but also more alert and confident. It's kind of a strange combination. Definitely a mood change, just not sure if it's a good or bad thing?
Decided I wanted to hit more chest and shoulders, because I haven't in so long.
Definitely down on strength. I'll give it a few days and see where I get :D
Incline barbell
135x20, 185x12, 225x5, 225x5, 185x10
Flat bench
135x10, 185x10, 225x10
Decline
135x10, 225x15, 225x8, 225x8 (no pain or signs on mental hesitation on here, but I never get gains off decline)
Tons of lateral raises/front raises with dumbells
Standing smith shoulder press
Just a 45 on each side for 3 sets, high reps. Didn't want to go crazy yet. Tried seated barbell and it didn't feel so hot.
Machine chest presses
20 minutes cardio, misc ab stuff.
Cobalt
07-18-2014, 06:22 PM
Sounds like your shoulder is doing better, good to hear.
What do you do for cardio?
Sounds like your shoulder is doing better, good to hear.
What do you do for cardio?
It's close to 100%, should be a fun 3.5 weeks from here on out.
For cardio, it's definitely mixed from session to session. My current gym doesn't have a stairclimber, so I'm left with stationary bikes, walking at 4mph on a steep incline, or those arc trainer things.
In all honesty, it varies. Depends where the motivation is :D
VayneZ
07-18-2014, 10:10 PM
If your knees are solid, high box HIIT for 8 minutes! I did that this morning after forever and man did I sweat!!
If your knees are solid, high box HIIT for 8 minutes! I did that this morning after forever and man did I sweat!!
I wish I could... There are no high boxes at my gym, just some stupid low box for stepups and shit.
Legs today after a nice few days of not training them. Anyone notice that their legs lose definition for a few days after a leg day? My legs were looking a little off for the past few weeks, big, but lacked definition. I'll grab a pic on monday after some carbs are in me, they seem to blow up when I do that.
As a side note, abs are starting to come in when hitting a most muscular type pose :D. Only downside is I got genetically fucked with my chest :(
Legs definitely didn't recover all the way yet... No legs until next friday, getting back on my split.
Today felt ehhhh, but pushed through. I almost fell with 135lbs on the bar, not sure wtf happened, but it threw me out of my zone.
Squats:
135x15, 225x10, 315x5, 405x4, 425x1, 455x0 (got it halfway, then got stuck and chest started to dip, game over)
Front sqauts
135x15, 185x8, 225x6, 275x3, 315x1, 325x1 This was AWESOME. All this squatting did wonders for my front squat.
Leg press
didn't count. Stopped using a million pounds on here because I can get a better workout with lighter weights.
Leg extentions
10x10, 8 seconds rest, 120lbs.
Hamstring curls
calf raises
15 minutes cardio
I need to get a bit tanner, then get some pics with a decent camera. I'm personally impressed, just gets better every day.
Cobalt
07-19-2014, 01:47 PM
Nice work on the legs. I need to throw front squatting back into my routine.
Move over phil heath and ramy, I'm here for 2015.
Not serious.... This looked way more impressive from my angle :D camera ruined it :(
Shoulders seem to have lost some size/conditioning in the past couple weeks. Not having any pressing will do that I guess. Squats seem to have brought up my traps and abs as well, which I'm happy with. I think the next major change to come to my physique will be more having to do with muscle maturity. I'm content with my weight at ~205-210 now, but will cut down a bit further then maintain for a bit after the cycle.
http://i57.tinypic.com/24ypqth.png
Gotta get my chest up. Any pointers? I've had my form checked countless times, even went to a benching seminar. Should I drop the weight and do something along the lines of 10x10 with minimal rest? My legs responded well to that.
Rest day today.
Back on track tomorrow now that I can do everything.
Mon- Chest, 2-3 cable tricep exercises, light ab work, cardio, calves
Tues: Back, 2-3 light curl movements to get some blood in there, heavy ab work, cardio
Wednesday: Shoulders, traps, calves, misc abs. Cardio.
Thurs: Bicep/tricep, abs, cardio.
Friday: Legs, abs, cardio.
Saturday: Chest/back focusing on contractions, abs, cardio.
BoneDaddy
07-21-2014, 05:25 AM
Them shoulders though.......
Them shoulders though.......
They were so blown up right before the injury, I really wish I grabbed a pic then. This size, with striations/veins everywhere. I should be able to hit them hard though so hopefully they will bounce back.
BoneDaddy
07-21-2014, 08:36 AM
There's a LOT to be said for muscle memory. They'll bounce back.
Hit chest today.
volume volume volume. Never had pumps like these in my chest, I normally feel chest days in all shoulder/tri.
Barbell bench
135x10, 185x12, 225x8, 245x5, 275x2. Stopped, didn't want to jump the gun.
Incline dumbell:
3x12 100lbs.
Incline barbell:
135x15, 185x12, 225x5, 185x10, 185x8, 185x5, 135x10.
Cable flies
Tons of sets/reps/angle variations. At least 13 sets of these...
Machine presses
Couple big dropsets
Machine flies
more dropsets
Flat dumbell bench- I was exhausted at this point. Just forced them out.
90x5, 80x15, 80x8.
Cardio
skipped abs, I felt like shit because my diet sucked yesterday. Only got like 800 cals in.
nate3993
07-21-2014, 02:19 PM
omg. such a sexy body. what complaints????? trust me man. u ain't got nothing to fret about ;)
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curious on dat face doe lol
omg. such a sexy body. what complaints????? trust me man. u ain't got nothing to fret about ;)
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curious on dat face doe lol
haha. It's the whole body dysmorphia thing. And lighting plays a huge role in how I look obviously.
They were so blown up right before the injury, I really wish I grabbed a pic then. This size, with striations/veins everywhere. I should be able to hit them hard though so hopefully they will bounce back.
like bonedaddy said that muscle memory will kick and you will grow those shoulders faster than you ever thought you could! until they get to the size they were or a little bigger of course!
you're nice a shredded bro! good work!
also i have found for me that doing bench press with a very slight decline helps add more mass than just regular flat bench! may want to test it out on yourself?!?!?
like bonedaddy said that muscle memory will kick and you will grow those shoulders faster than you ever thought you could! until they get to the size they were or a little bigger of course!
you're nice a shredded bro! good work!
also i have found for me that doing bench press with a very slight decline helps add more mass than just regular flat bench! may want to test it out on yourself?!?!?
I focused too much on decline barbell for the first few years, didn't get any gains out of it.
You mean like throwing a 45lb plate to create just a slight angle under legs of a bench? I've done that for dumbell pressing, but only at the end of a workout. I'll try it when I'm fresh.
Need to take a photo from straight on in a well lit room so we can actually see what's up with your chest. Can't tell much from that photo (chest wise).
I focused too much on decline barbell for the first few years, didn't get any gains out of it.
You mean like throwing a 45lb plate to create just a slight angle under legs of a bench? I've done that for dumbell pressing, but only at the end of a workout. I'll try it when I'm fresh.
yes not an actual decline press. but only a very slight decline so you get some more activation out of your pectoral area and a little less shoulder strain.
main reason i wen't to a slight decline was because my shoulder likes to "pop" when i do flat bench and after rotator cuff surgery it makes me weary when it pops when i do things. then i noticed i get a much better chest workout when i do the slight decline and my shoulders don't get as worn down by the end of the routine.
bbg- I know... It just doesn't look good that way though haha :( The gyno pops up and because I'm still so pale right now I lose all the definition.
BoneDaddy
07-21-2014, 04:25 PM
omg. such a sexy body. what complaints????? trust me man. u ain't got nothing to fret about ;)
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curious on dat face doe lol
God damn, I fucking love Nate, man..........
Because normal sucks.
Deads:
Barx10, 135x10, 225x10, 315x10, 405x20 touch and go just blasting them out, 10 minutes rest, 495x3, 545x1, 565x1, 585x0 :(
T bar rows- LOVE these.
2 platesx20, 3platesx15, 4platesx8, 5 platesx5, 2 platesx25
Pullups:
3x12 wide, pause/stretch at the bottom. DROPSET +40lbsx7, +20lbsx5, bodyweightx5, assisted by lifting partner to force out another 4.
Lat pulldowns overhand
5x8, 2x12, 1x20 slow/light.
Lat pulldowns underhand
3x6 heavy cheat, 4x8 slow/controlled.
Barbell rows underhand
135x20, 185x15, 225x10, 225x10, 275x5, 315x4 shit form. 135x30
Machine rows
3x8
Straight arm pulldowns with rope
4x20
Straighr arm pulldowns with tricep v bar
4x20
Cable rows
5x10, then did a big dropset from the full stack to 10lbs.
Some funky machine pulldown I've never seen/used before.
5x10 light.
15 minutes cardio
ab work
done.
http://i60.tinypic.com/8yt83d.jpg
My back looks uneven, but it's just my angle and how I'm twisted a bit. If you look, you can see where the melanotan really took effect when I was outside all day in a t shirt...... Holy dark neck.
Finally starting to get the "yeah, he lifts" forearms :D
http://i60.tinypic.com/30m73ti.jpg
I <3 epiandro. So glad I added it in, I feel great on a day to day basis, where before something was just off with me. Confidence is through the roof, energy levels are great, pumps are exciting, and I'm developing a much harder appearance. So many people have come up to me lately and commented on my shoulder width, despite not being able to train them until now.
nate3993
07-23-2014, 01:17 PM
pics aint showing up
You sure? They're working on my end. Try refreshing?
Shoulder today. Pain free. Lost a bit of strength, but I'll be back by next week.
Seated dumbell press:
40x8, 60x8, 85x8, 95x5, 100x0 :( didn't have a spot either so it was a lost hope.
Standing barbell:
135x8, 155x5, 185x3, 95x30
Lateral raises:
50lbs 3x8, 30lbs 3x12, 20lbs 3x20
Front raises dumbells
50lbs 3x8
Shrugs
100lbs 3x12
Shrugs barbell
405 3x8, dropset all the way down to 135.
Upright rows cable
200lbs 3x8 (cable sucks with these)
Laying face first on incline front raise with dumbells
20lbs 3x20
Rear delt flies
abs
cardio
VayneZ
07-23-2014, 08:17 PM
Sick physique bro, losing all that bodyfat I see!
We're still waiting for those lifting videos!!
And I gotta come and spend a week training with you dude. Seems like would be a good week to learn from the man of strength
^ 1k deficit+clen works wonders :D
I know, I need to get those videos up ASAP. I haven't been able to move the 585 lately and I've been wanting to save it for that.
It's always cool to train with other people, they bring a lot to the table in regards to their viewpoints, unique little things they do. There's a friend of mine who isn't nearly as strong as me, but I still take his advice all the time because of his families background on kinesiology.
Someone decide for me. Try to hit 455 ass to grass again with no spot, or just focus on front squats and do some light back squats?
necropuppy
07-24-2014, 06:35 PM
Someone decide for me. Try to hit 455 ass to grass again with no spot, or just focus on front squats and do some light back squats?
Wellll how good do you feel about it? I would say if u got it, do it. Go with your gut. Front squats have merit too I hear.
Wellll how good do you feel about it? I would say if u got it, do it. Go with your gut. Front squats have merit too I hear.
I know I can get it, I just feel beat down from squatting, like I need a change. I think I'll hit the front squats hard so I can come back next week fired up and ready to go.
necropuppy
07-24-2014, 07:04 PM
I know I can get it, I just feel beat down from squatting, like I need a change. I think I'll hit the front squats hard so I can come back next week fired up and ready to go.
How do you do them with your arms crossed or your elbows up, I can't do them with the elbows up back, my shoulder won't lemme position it right,.. I'm afraid to do it arms crossed tho cause I want stability
How do you do them with your arms crossed or your elbows up, I can't do them with the elbows up back, my shoulder won't lemme position it right,.. I'm afraid to do it arms crossed tho cause I want stability
Arms crossed, I HATE elbows up. Find the sweet spot with the bar where it rests on your delts, and just lock it in with your arms. Head up, chest out, elbows high. Tough to do this when you move up in weight though :(
VayneZ
07-24-2014, 08:09 PM
go 455 DEEP but only if you film it!!! Then I can have a good motivation for this end of the year to get STRONG(er)
go 455 DEEP but only if you film it!!! Then I can have a good motivation for this end of the year to get STRONG(er)
Next week 100% I'll go for it. I'll use my phone, I just hate lifting without music, but it is what it is. Plus, I should be strong as fuck by then since it will be nearing the end of my cycle.
EDIT
It's kind of cool. I've been on almost zero carbs for quite a while now. Just ate some banana bread because I needed something other than tilapia/chicken/broccoli. Fullness is awesome.
Upped the clen dose. Today. Went a bit high, I was short of breath through the workout and very nauseous.
But it goes on.
Front squats
barx25, 135x15, 185x10, 225x10, 275x5, 315x3, 225x15 rest pause. Wraps/belt after 225 and on the last set. Front squats exploded strength wise, not sure on the depth though, definitely no where near my other squats. Hopefully it's at least just under parallel.
Back sqauts
135x15, 225x10, 315x5, 405x0. This was a bad choice after front squats. Stopped squatting here.
Leg press
Pyramid up to 7 plates a side. didn't count reps/sets, just really tried to keep the tension on the legs instead of joints.
Leg extentions
100lbs, 5x20, 10 seconds rest.
Hamstring curls
5x8 200lbs
Hack squats
Couldn't move much weight at this point, legs were fried. Just did three sets of 3 plates a side to failure.
Calf raises
5 minutes of cardio, then left. Felt nasty at the end.
necropuppy
07-25-2014, 11:19 AM
Upped the clen dose. Today. Went a bit high, I was short of breath through the workout and very nauseaous
5 minutes of cardio, then left. Felt nasty at the end.
I hate that feeling. But that happens to me more on leg days especially if I go very heavy or high volume. Worst was when I decided to try and do interval sprints after leg day on clen. Ugh.
^ Other than the shortness of breath occasionally, I LOVE LOVE LOVE clen. The energy is awesome in combo with the epiandro.
Just curious on one other thing. Pumps have been great, but my forearm issue is getting intense. I'm not sure if it's an actual injury, or just that they are pumped 24/7 and painfully so during workouts.
How do I stop the forearm pumps?!? Even with straps they just inflate to the point where I'm limited on what I can do. Getting pumps just from squeezing the handles on the leg press.
ohhhhhhhh god I love that plate underneath the bottom of the flat bench.
Chest/back today. I'm back. Full strength+more.
Dumbell flat bench with plate under to make it declin"ish":
50x15, 80x15, 100x20, 100x15, 100x12, 100x8, 90x5
Wide pullups
3x20 full lockout (forearms got a painful pump from this)
Incline bench
135x20, 185x10 pause 5 seconds on chest, 225x5 pause 5 seconds on chest, 185x8 regular speed, 135x20 explosive.
Wide cable rows
3x30
Underhand pullups
3x15
Cable flies
machine flies
Machine chest press
20 minutes cardio
abs.
My shoulders got so disgustingly pumped that I could barely lift my arms.
necropuppy
07-26-2014, 11:38 AM
My shoulders got so disgustingly pumped that I could barely lift my arms.
Nice.
Do you find decline bench does anything for you? I've never done it, I kinda considered it superfluous.
Do you do back before you do chest? My bro told me it may help my chest if I do back first and exhaust the assisting muscles so I can focus more on my chest. Also I'm wondering if that applies to triceps too.
Decline barbell did nothing at all. I don't feel it in my chest, I'm just moving weight for no reason.
On saturdays I hit a couple back movements before chest. Not so much with the idea of exhausting the back, but more so to stretch out the shoulders/lats/traps and get some blood in there. Seems like after I did this my shoulders take less of a beating and I can move more weight.
As for tricep pre exhausting, never. Maybe a couple light sets of one arm behind the head dumbell extensions, but that's just used as a warmup.
necropuppy
07-26-2014, 01:54 PM
Decline barbell did nothing at all. I don't feel it in my chest, I'm just moving weight for no reason.
On saturdays I hit a couple back movements before chest. Not so much with the idea of exhausting the back, but more so to stretch out the shoulders/lats/traps and get some blood in there. Seems like after I did this my shoulders take less of a beating and I can move more weight.
As for tricep pre exhausting, never. Maybe a couple light sets of one arm behind the head dumbell extensions, but that's just used as a warmup.
Hmm ok. I'm going to try that, and what my bro said. It's all a about seeing what works right?
Hmm ok. I'm going to try that, and what my bro said. It's all a about seeing what works right?
Exactly. What works for someone might be horrible for others. Some people love dips, I can't do them because it feels like my shoulders are ripping in half.
Definitely try the warming up the back thing (pullups, cable rows), then the flat dunbell bench with a 45lb plate underneath it. It's my new go to chest movement.
tallstraw
07-26-2014, 02:27 PM
Exactly. What works for someone might be horrible for others. Some people love dips, I can't do them because it feels like my shoulders are ripping in half.
Definitely try the warming up the back thing (pullups, cable rows), then the flat dunbell bench with a 45lb plate underneath it. It's my new go to chest movement.
It's gotta be bad form or shoulder placement man. You're not letting your shoulders slump when you do them right? Once I stopped that my collarbone stopped hurting. Once I stopped putting my arms so far behind me, it stopped feeling my joint was gonna rip in half. I know you know how the movement is supposed to work. But have someone watch you. If anything but your arms are bending you might be doing it wrong. I thought the pain was just a thing associated with dips I'd grow out of, till a dude downrange was like "hey man I see you in there all the time and you hold your shoulders after dips. Here's 2 things you're doing wrong." I've been golden ever since.
AttackonHill
07-26-2014, 06:28 PM
I can't do dips either. Used to bang them out all day long when I was a kid. The problem is an AC joint injury. They heal up well enough if you rehab properly, but dips always re-aggravate the injury. Might be something to investigate.
I don't think it's form, but I'll have someone take a look next time I'm at a legit gym. Canceled my membership because I am heading off to college soon, just left at a shitty local gym.
Refeed Today.
Ribeyes. mmmm
necropuppy
07-27-2014, 04:08 PM
Ribeyes. mmmm
Porterhouse ftw.
Porterhouse ftw.
Ribeye
Buttery baked potato with bacon bits/cheese
broccoli
Garlic bread
Lava cake
Key lime pie
red velvet cake
Annnnd I feel like death. Way too much dessert, I needed it though.
necropuppy
07-27-2014, 04:18 PM
Ribeye
Buttery baked potato with bacon bits/cheese
Red velvet cake
broccoli
Garlic bread
Lava cake
Key lime pie
Annnnd I feel like death.
Mmm Mmm. Lol. That's a lot of desserts.
Mmm Mmm. Lol. That's a lot of desserts.
So worth it.
Should get some wild pumps tomorrow :D
This gym only goes up to 100lb dumbells so I'll strap on some 25lb plates and see how many I can get :D
Well it got awkward today.
Still LOVE the plate under the flat bench thing.
Flat dumbell bench:
80x15, 100x15, 100+10lb plates strapped to the dumbellx10, 100+25lb plates hanging from dumbellx3. Smashed my hand BAD on these since It was so hard to rig up.
Incline barbell
135x15, 185x10, 225x2 failed WTF. No clue what happened. 185x5, 135x10
Flat barbell
135x10, 225x5. Wasn't feeling right.
Cable flies
Flat bench dumbell dropset burnout. Went from 80's down to 5's. Holy burn.
20 minutes cardio.
Leg raises.
necropuppy
07-29-2014, 07:19 AM
Well it got awkward today.
Still LOVE the plate under the flat bench thing.
Flat dumbell bench:
80x15, 100x15, 100+10lb plates strapped to the dumbellx10, 100+25lb plates hanging from dumbellx3. Smashed my hand BAD on these since It was so hard to rig up.
Incline barbell
135x15, 185x10, 225x2 failed WTF. No clue what happened. 185x5, 135x10
Flat barbell
135x10, 225x5. Wasn't feeling right.
Cable flies
Flat bench dumbell dropset burnout. Went from 80's down to 5's. Holy burn.
20 minutes cardio.
Leg raises.
That sucks. How did you even strap them together I can't even picture that I'm my head.
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^ dumbells, 25lb plates, and velcro straps. Just hanging from the handles. Made for a strange angle and imbalanced weight, but I wanted to give it a shot.
necropuppy
07-29-2014, 09:24 AM
^ dumbells, 25lb plates, and velcro straps. Just hanging from the handles. Made for a strange angle and imbalanced weight, but I wanted to give it a shot.
Crazy kids :)
Miserable lift today. Forced myself through it, but I was just out of breath and felt like shit. No more clen shakes or anything, maybe I need to take some time off it again?
Deads:
warmups as usual, 405x10, 455x5, 495x5, 565x0, 405x10. I'm losing strength rapidly here, it's kind of depressing. Maybe cut the deads for a week?
Pullups:
3x20 wide.
Underhand barbell rows
4x12 225lbs
Lat pulldowns
3x12, up the weight 2x8, up the weight 2x6.
Cable rows
full stack+25lb plate 3x12
Straight arm pulldowns
Rear delt flies
Neutral grip pullups
cardio
I still feel beat. Maybe it's just stress from other things?
necropuppy
07-29-2014, 04:42 PM
Stress would Def affect your lifts. A lot of its mental. You should be running clen 2 weeks on 2 off, unless you have some ketotifen, then you can go maybe 3 weeks.
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Stress would Def affect your lifts. A lot of its mental. You should be running clen 2 weeks on 2 off, unless you have some ketotifen, then you can go maybe 3 weeks.
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I use keto along with 2 on/1 off.
My back just started aching out of nowhere. I'm hoping it's just some random back pump out of nowhere. Gonna take it easy for the rest of the night and play it by feeling tomorrow.
I knew something felt off about deadlifts today.
Shoulder day.
Had to make it fast. No cardio. In and out.
Looked pretty freaking huge today. Rocked a tank for the first time in ages. Wow, I really am a lot wider than everyone in there lol.
Overhead Dumbell presses:
60x8, 75x8, 95x8, 95x5
Overhead barbell
135x12, 135x8, 95x25 (huge burn here)
Lateral raises
a million sets/reps with the 30's
front raises
used the ez bar for these.
Rear delt flies
shrugs
that was it. My shoulders were beat from the intensity/lack of rest.
AttackonHill
07-30-2014, 10:11 PM
Really strong DB shoulder numbers man. Those barbell presses seated or military?
Really strong DB shoulder numbers man. Those barbell presses seated or military?
Thanks! They are standing. My gyms seated one feels off for me.
Bi/tri today.
The pump. Woaaaaaaaaa.
CGBP
135x20, 185x20, 225x10, 275x5, 225x8, 135x15 slow
Cable curls straight bar
3x12
incline dumbell skullcrushers
40lb dumbells, 4x15
Pushdowns straightbar
3x30
Cable curls preacher one arm
5x12, 1x6, 1x50
Underhand chinups
hammercurls
50lbs 3x12 both arms at the same time
ball grip pushdowns
3x10
dumbell behind the neck extensions
25lb dumbells didn't could sets/reps
I couldn't touch my sholders and got so vascular it was nuts.
Forgot to update this yesterday.
Leg day.
To summarize it up, 315 with belt/wraps for 3 on front squats. Missed 405 back squat after my front squat session. Next week it's back to regular squatting.
Did a bunch of other leg work as well obviously.
My diet hasn't been very good lately...
Hit chest
I did more than this, but here are my main "sets"
275x6 flat barbell
110x8 incline dumbell
135x40 flat barbell
Not feeling too good lately. Not sure why.
Some updates.
Diet has been awful in reality. Trying to bust my ass, but I'm feeling like shit. Just beat down, depressed, stressed, and lethargic. Could be where I'm at in my life, could be the cycle. It's almost at an end. Might be related to a girl I've been talking to for a while, she sent me some drunk text about get fucked by another random guy. Then again, why do I care? I'll be at college in two weeks and have plenty of connections there :D
Hit back. Definitely losing strength. Couldn't even pull a 565. Left me pretty frustrated so I just did high rep supersets until I was about to pass out.
Picture isn't the best. I'm not as lean/dry looking. Maybe it's just my outlook on it? Who knows.
http://i59.tinypic.com/2hx1u8i.png
Your back look thick AND lean. Fuck that chick, you don't need toxic people like that in your life. You can't PR every workout. Some workouts you'll go backwards. The key is progress over time.
Your back look thick AND lean. Fuck that chick, you don't need toxic people like that in your life. You can't PR every workout. Some workouts you'll go backwards. The key is progress over time.
Thanks man. Means a lot, just feeling stressed out lately about a lot of things. My back is without a doubt my strongest point. Been doing a lot of weighted pullups/pullup dropsets lately. Seems to be helping to bring it out in lat spreads, combined with the diet and tightening up my waist. What diet though... The drugs are the only thing keeping me in tact right now :( Gotta diet hard again tomorrow.
necropuppy
08-05-2014, 08:41 PM
Fuck them hos. It's to worth your energy to think about.
On the upshot your back looks sick. And what BBG said, progress, progress, progress. Plus you're on a cut with not anabolics so you're gonna lose some strength. Also I know the feeling of feeling run down, and it has a lot to do with diet, I'm sure if you cleaned up your diet and refocused you'll be back to killing shit in no time.
Feeling good today. No idea why, but I guess getting some relax time down at a pool with nobody else really clears your mind.
Rocked a stringer again. Felt swole. If only the gyno wasn't there, but hey, nobody seems to notice but me?
Shoulder day. I had such a painful pump I had to sit out for a bit mid workout.
Warmup
Dumbell shoulder presses (not spot)
30x15, 50x15, 75x15, 100x6, DROPSETS: 50x12 arnold, 40x10, 35x10, 30x10, 25x10, 20x8, 15x8
Lateral raises
10x20, 25x15, 35x10, 50x10, 55x8, 25x15, 10x30
Front raises
didn't count anything
Standing barbell press (shoulders were beat by here)
barx10, 95x15, 135x8, 95x6 slow
rear delt flies
shrugs
3x25 100lb dumbells
Legs:
Getting good at front squats. Back squats have dropped though?
Back squats:
135x15, 225x15, 315x8, 405x2, 315x5
Front squats:
135x20, 185x12, 225x8, 275x7, 225x5, 135x15
Leg press
3 plates a side, slow reps, 4x30
Leg extentions
10x10 200lbs.
Calf raises
Didn't do cardio.
Feeling low on energy.
Killed it today. Full body workout. Different gym, looked juicy with veins blasting.
Cycle ends in a few days. Just got my hands on some HCG. Won't do much, but I'll start using it to get the boys back as fast as possible. Wish I used it before.
Deads:
135x10, 225x10, 315x10, 405x10, 495x5, 545x2, 565x0, 565x0, 565x0. Kept dropping this thing, didn't want to give up. Yes, I lost strength.
Pullups wide:
5 sets of 15 reps.
Hammer strength pulldown/row thing
4 plates a side, 5x8
Hammer strength incline
4 plates, 5x5, 3 plates 1x10, 2 plates 1x15
At this point, I was looking blown up. Rocked the tank and had some sweet lighting in this gym.
More pullups
Decline hammer strength press
5x5 4 plates a side. This was HARD.
Barbell curls
135lbs 4x7, had assistance on some of this to keep good form. Heavy, but fun.
Lat pulldowns
Light for high reps to just get a pump.
Lateral raises
2x8 50lbs, 5x5 70lbs. This was awesome feeling.
I'm more tan now. My shoulders are so dry and striated during every movement, it's so cool looking. Veins everywhere on them.
VayneZ
08-10-2014, 06:49 PM
Bro you're a determined fighter! I barely nailed 535 and you're nailing 545's for reps. There's a chance you will regain strength during PCT. My strongest moments are always during PCT, not sure if it's the clomid, but I always break PR's right AFTER the cycle ends.
Bro you're a determined fighter! I barely nailed 535 and you're nailing 545's for reps. There's a chance you will regain strength during PCT. My strongest moments are always during PCT, not sure if it's the clomid, but I always break PR's right AFTER the cycle ends.
I'm hoping. I'm sitting at like 207lbs depleted right now. How my weight fluctuates so much I will never know :confused:
My one friend grabbed a snap of me doing lateral raises and sent it to like everyone on his friends list haha. Veins just blasting everywhere. I really wish he saved it :(
I've noticed that any time I chew I get a jaw pump...
I skipped my rest day this week and upped the cardio. I'm in pct and have been for a bit.
Back day today. I just deadlifted the other day, but I wanted to hit a couple sets. Worked up to a 405x15 with straps, then got really lightheaded.
Underhand barbell rows- 135x20, 225x15, 315x10, 365x5 I got good at these :D
Dumbell rows
3x15 100lbs
Pullups
pulldowns
cable rows
machine rows
shrugs
That's it, had to cut short today due to some other things.
Well I hit legs today. 405 front squat didn't happen. I might have snapped my shit too. Got it 90% up, then it just fell.
Then this happened. Filters are cool
My attempt at a vacuum.
http://i58.tinypic.com/rrig0j.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/10e4ft1.png
necropuppy
08-15-2014, 09:56 PM
Damn bro, looking cut up. Hope you're alright though.
VayneZ
08-15-2014, 11:30 PM
Look at those pics man!!! What the hell?! Mad progress from last time Abs and quads are looking lean man! Keep cutting! I like where this is going!
405 front squats: are you insane?! The fact that you attempted that alone, mad respect. I believe you can do it though, pretty soon, after you ease up on the cutting.
But bro, awesome those pics are! kudos my man
Look at those pics man!!! What the hell?! Mad progress from last time Abs and quads are looking lean man! Keep cutting! I like where this is going!
405 front squats: are you insane?! The fact that you attempted that alone, mad respect. I believe you can do it though, pretty soon, after you ease up on the cutting.
But bro, awesome those pics are! kudos my man
I'm thinking about going down to 190. I'm 200ish in these pics.
For the front squat, I don't think I will get it or even attempt again. I felt a pop in my back and just dropped it immediately. Had a hard time breathing after it so I just sat down for a while then tried to stretch. I feel really stiff and weak today.
Damn bro, looking cut up. Hope you're alright though.
Feels like the same pain I've had in the past from heavy back squats. Just gotta take it easy for a bit with no compounds, only isolation stuff.
Well I'm feeling better, just tight.
Hit some chest and back.
Lots of pullups after every exercise.
Decline:
135x15, 225x15, 275x10, 315x5, 335x1. Wooooo. Felt good.
Barbell rows:
4x12 225 underhand, 2x12 225 overhand
Flat bench
3x8 225 slow reps
Lat pulldowns
cable flies
rear delt flies
cable rows
Machine chest press
hammer strength pulldown
Someone sent me this video today.
Why does it have to be a rest day, I just want to go throw weights around.
necropuppy
08-17-2014, 08:11 PM
Damn good video. Fucking 10 now and now I wanna go smash some plates.
To sum up today, 120x8 flat dumbell bench no spot full ROM.
Tomorrow is my last training day before I move off to college. Big change in my life coming up. Gotta get my priorities straight and hoping lifting doesn't have to take a backburner.
O_RYAN_007
08-20-2014, 07:03 PM
To sum up today, 120x8 flat dumbell bench no spot full ROM.
Tomorrow is my last training day before I move off to college. Big change in my life coming up. Gotta get my priorities straight and hoping lifting doesn't have to take a backburner.
This is completely in your hands brother! I used training as my stress reliever rather than partying my damn life away. I did have fun, occasionally drank on the weekends, but NEVER during the week.
necropuppy
08-21-2014, 11:38 AM
Yeah. Don't party too much in college. I learned that lesson. You're there to learn. Also to fuck really hot sluttygirls, but also to learn. Should be classes, lifting, broads. But that's IMO. I didn't finish college because of partying and my options were certainly limited.
This college gym sucks.
got two workouts in so far.
Trying to keep the priorities in this order:
School
Friendship
Lifting
Partying on fridays
Damn, never gotten this much cardio in before. 3 miles to the gym.
VayneZ
08-23-2014, 07:53 PM
So you're going to a gym nearby instead of the one the College has?
So you're going to a gym nearby instead of the one the College has?
No. The college gym is opposite end of campus from me. Going to join the weightlifting club which has a private gym a minute away.
I'm up 8 pounds... Time to get this back on track. Made it into a private gym here so that's going to allow me to push myself more knowing that there's not people within 2 feet me in every single direction.
My friend is hopping on trest. Will be neat to see how he responds to it.
VayneZ
09-11-2014, 09:56 PM
Glad to hear back from you bro How's college???
Glad to hear back from you bro How's college???
Great! It's nice to meet all the new people and finally change everything in my life. Living in the whole place for my entire life was getting boring. Same people and things every day gets old.
Classes are going well, but much more of a significant workload than I'm used to.
The food though... Incredible. Everything is a buffet which makes cutting a nightmare. It's kind of cool being one of the bigger guys on campus. So many comments from random people walking in/out of gym or even just when we go out.
VayneZ
09-25-2014, 09:24 PM
How's the last week been bro?
Haven't been updating as much because my training has honestly sucked. Maybe it's that I've been a stim junkie and used pre my whole life? Now I'm not using any, so that's probably it.
Ran another cycle of epiandro and trest. Never updated it. Didn't get anything out of it somehow. No shutdown, no gains, no feeling at all... Felt like a complete waste.
Giving it a while then just pinning myself with test. Strength has been down, but I definitely peaked out earlier on that. I'm done chasing numbers, as dumb as it sounds, age really catches up with you. I just don't have the stamina I did before. Multiple hour gym sessions are a thing of the past. Physique went to shit a little bit, but I'm trying to get back on track. Just been really stressed out with school work and other incidents that occurred. Still at it 6 times a week, but just can't put forth what I used to.
Scope75
01-13-2015, 12:52 PM
Did you do any bloods?
Did you PCT after your epiandro/trest run?
Did you do any bloods?
Did you PCT after your epiandro/trest run?
No bloods. Full PCT with clomid/nolva/test boosters afterwards. Literally did not feel a thing from the cycle or through PCT. Still pushed myself, but not at all like the feeling before. Big disappointment considering how much I would have expected a large energy/libido boost. Sex drive was unchanged.
Scope75
01-13-2015, 01:21 PM
What brand epiandro and trest was it and how was it ran/dosed?
SoCal-Nutrition
01-13-2015, 03:26 PM
I believe you were using our Epiandro, were you using our trest as well?
I used SoCa'l's epiandro powder and OL dermatrest. Many have had great results with these products so I am slightly confused as to why I didn't, but it could just be my body not responding or stress induced.
I keep getting lightheaded and almost passing out during heavy sets. It's generally with any overhead movements specifically.
I'm going to be waiting a while then running test. Wish I did this in the first place.
Scope75
01-20-2015, 09:15 AM
Good thing you started at 18-19....
Maybe take it easy and go natty again because you had/have a great base and your so damn young to already be on and off the ROIDS every few weeks/months.
weekend
01-20-2015, 10:40 AM
How's your gyno?
Scope75
01-20-2015, 12:41 PM
How's your gyno?
What??
This guy already has gyno, from a cycle or just pubertal gyno???
tallstraw
01-20-2015, 01:01 PM
Pubertal if I remember
Scope75
01-20-2015, 02:09 PM
Pubertal if I remember
Yeah I went back and that's what type it is.
KGPL care to post any progress pics?
weekend
01-20-2015, 02:55 PM
Part of the point of his cycle was to shrink it. I've been there... Cycling with one goal
And coming out with the other goal. At least my gyno is undetectable :)
How's your gyno?
Improvement. As my chest fills out, it becomes less and less noticeable. Definitely still there, but much less visible than before.
I'm in no rush to run a test cycle, I just know that when I run again I'm pinning.
Scope75
01-20-2015, 06:57 PM
Part of the point of his cycle was to shrink it. I've been there... Cycling with one goal
And coming out with the other goal. At least my gyno is undetectable :)
Who uses TREST to shrink gyno??
Nothing about Trest seems to be gyno shrinking.
Who uses TREST to shrink gyno??
Nothing about Trest seems to be gyno shrinking.
I used trest/epiandro as a second run (not trying to get rid of it with this one), but got absolutely nothing out of them with zero effects to my body in any way.
Ran epiandro, prami, and nolva before to try to get rid of it.
VayneZ
01-21-2015, 12:18 AM
KGPL!!! Nice to hear from you again. I agree with Scope, take awhile before cycling again. It'll be worth it when you do.
Picture is me at about 15lbs lighter than current state. All the weight went to lower back, bi's, and chest. Definitely not good weight though...
http://i60.tinypic.com/mmpo9k.jpg
I'm pretty sure I have a pic floating around me posing in the same spot at 225lbs currently.
weekend
01-21-2015, 08:50 PM
Looking good. Took me about 5 cycles to get to that. Lol
I think you could use some time off. You have any plans to model or compete?
Looking good. Took me about 5 cycles to get to that. Lol
I think you could use some time off. You have any plans to model or compete?
The next six weeks are unfortunately going to be very spotty with training and involve an excessive amount of alcohol+lack of food+sleep deprivation. Not by choice...
No plans, definitely not aesthetic enough right now. I need to find the most recent pic to show just how much I bloated out rather quickly.
weekend
01-21-2015, 10:08 PM
just join a frat or what?
I will be rushing. Hazing will be rough, but I'll get back on track after that and cut out alcohol for the rest of the semester. Hoping to see my GPA go up a bit with that too...
Turns out I'm not pledging. Time to get back on track. Going to be running frag 176 191 and clen soon. My goal is to get completely shredded before summer.
Scope75
02-02-2015, 12:29 PM
In for the results....
tallstraw
02-02-2015, 03:21 PM
Damn you didn't get a bid? That sucks.
Oh well, always next semester.
Damn you didn't get a bid? That sucks.
Oh well, always next semester.
five separate bids, decided since I'm on probation with six separate charges, I should probably lay low :rolleyes:
tallstraw
02-02-2015, 05:53 PM
Hahaha like a boss...can't wait to start school.
What are the charges for?
Hahaha like a boss...can't wait to start school.
What are the charges for?
I was actually innocent. They're all going to get dropped. Intox, b&e, trespass, assault, fake id charges, vandalism.
tallstraw
02-02-2015, 11:36 PM
Thas a lot of charges to be innocent lol
Thas a lot of charges to be innocent lol
Tell me about it. It was a shitshow of legal expenses and time in court. My phone was lost and I admitted to alcohol consumption. Based on where they found my phone and the assumption I was intoxicated, they pieced together a whole story and linked together two separate crime scenes across campus to me. To truly understand how ridiculous the claims were, they accused me of climbing in through a third floor window.
tallstraw
02-03-2015, 10:42 AM
I didn't realize we harbored such hardened criminals here at SS.
Starting up frag tomorrow. Should be interesting.
Pinned 250mcg fasted before my workout. Going to pin twice a day, morning and night. Both fasted. Adding in cardio and higher rep schemes, dropping out squats and deadlifts because I physically can't do them due to an injury.
Feeling good. Obviously no results yet, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I also picked up a job bouncing at a bar, so that will give me something to have fun with haha.
Starting albut tomorow. Going to get a start/end weight. My goal is to be under 200lbs.
http://i61.tinypic.com/2hqfkft.jpg
Trained arms today. Scale was broken so I'll have to get that later this week or early next week.
CGBP:
barx50
135x20
185x15
225x10
225x10
225x7
135x15 slow pause
135x7 slow pause reps
Dumbell tricep extensions
35lbs 5x12
Cable pushdowns
didn't count weight/reps
dumbell curls
45lbs 3x12, 35lbs 3x12, 25lbs 3x10
Cable curls one arm
60lbs 5x8
Underhand one arm tricep pushdowns
10x10 60lbs
misc ab work
Looking for advice on getting as shredded as possible in 5 weeks. I'll be on albut, UOJ, cardio, frag, and a VERY strict diet of IF. Anything else I should toss into the mix? Hitting abs every day. Upping the reps on my lifts and adding in supersets.
It's damn near impossible to track macros on dining hall food, but to give you an idea of what I'm eating it's essentially copious amounts of stirfry with chicken, rice, broccoli, and soy as my main meal. To break the fast I have 2 scoops of whey, then have two scoops of whey and some cliff bars (sugar I know, but they have fiber and oats which I need) at the end of my window. I'm estimating roughly 2200 calories total.
tallstraw
02-13-2015, 11:29 AM
You're sitting calories wise about where I am..if I actually ran I'd probably be shredding up lol. I think you could have chosen better peptides if getting shredded was your objective though.
You're sitting calories wise about where I am..if I actually ran I'd probably be shredding up lol. I think you could have chosen better peptides if getting shredded was your objective though.
Suggestions? I'm open to adding more peptides into the mix.
tallstraw
02-13-2015, 01:30 PM
Ghrp and cjc without dac are what you want. It's ghrp2 if I remember right. 6 will wreck your cut because of the intense never ending hunger cravings, and can store fat.
Ipamorelin as an alternative as well
Starting to lean out pretty quick. The scales been broken, but there's definitely visible results on my end. I've been running albut (I think it's bunk honestly), and 250mcg frag in the morning fasted, and before bed (I don't eat a few hours before pinning).
Adding in Ipamorelin. 200mcg twice a day sound about right? One before bed, one pwo?
VayneZ
02-17-2015, 08:11 PM
Looking swole bro, how much are you weighing right now? and about what bodyfat% are you at?
Looking swole bro, how much are you weighing right now? and about what bodyfat% are you at?
I honestly couldn't tell you exactly. The scale at my gym has been broken for a while. Last time I weighed myself it was right around 212, I dropped weight quickly, but don't think I've lost much in the past few weeks on this dining hall food. As for bf%, it's impossible to really tell. I can get a completely shredded back/arms/legs, but still hold every drop of bf% left in my lower back/midsection. If I had to guess I'd say 15%... Definitely not where I want to be. My goal in four weeks is sub 10%, even if I starve myself and lose a bit of mass.
weekend
02-18-2015, 10:27 AM
I thought my albuterol was bunk too until I tried 12 mg at once. Lol. Sold the rest cause I didn't wanna feel like that ever again.
I thought my albuterol was bunk too until I tried 12 mg at once. Lol. Sold the rest cause I didn't wanna feel like that ever again.
Lol, I'm taking 4mg+300mg of caffeine twice a day. Then I have preworkout mixed in there. Needless to say, I am going to crash hard without caffeine soon. I'll taper off slowly.
Is there any connection between frag and increased facial hair growth? Might just be random, but my facial hair is growing at an obscene rate ever since I started.
Dat gh gut? My waist is obscenely wide and I only have deadlifts to blame honestly. Regardless of how lean I get, still there.
http://i57.tinypic.com/294jj9f.png
tallstraw
02-18-2015, 02:11 PM
That just means you need to build wider shoulders to give that taper look to a bigger waist
weekend
02-18-2015, 04:01 PM
I think after 8 years of deadlifting I can safely say that it will not affect waist size.
Your waist is not that big brotha
My ipamorelin should be here today, along with clen. Taking a couple days off the albut and using benedryl to clear out the receptors a bit before jumping on clen. I'll try to get my weight today, really hoping to be sitting lower since my midsection definitely appears tighter. It's a huge mental thing for me when I'm under 200 because I've essentially been above that number for almost my whole life...
tallstraw
02-19-2015, 02:46 PM
GWP is having the sale of the ages...I haven't seen a better deal on ketotifen so if you needed some, I'd get it before they sell out.
GWP is having the sale of the ages...I haven't seen a better deal on ketotifen so if you needed some, I'd get it before they sell out.
Appreciate the advice.
Killed shoulders today.
Super strict, slow, seated dumbell laterals with pinkys up/thumbs down are definitely getting added in to every shoulder day.
So to sum this up, I have four weeks to get as shredded as possible. It's a personal goal, visiting my girlfriend overseas and really want to shock her when she sees me lol. I've had to cut back on the cardio due to limited time and distance to the facility with the cold weather. My private gym here doesn't have any cardio unfortunately, I have to walk to the other side of campus for it.
Couple other questions/thoughts that ran across my mind.
Ideal dosing on ipamorelin? 100mcg 3x a day? morning, pwo, before bed? It will be fasted in the morning and night, should I have carbs pwo with it or wait a bit?
What's your take on CLA? Seems to have mixed results/reviews. Worth it or no?
Best OTC fat burner to stack with clen and use when I have to take time off?
I messed up my hammy and quad deadlifting two months ago. Haven't been able to even do body weight squats until lately. Obviously, I'm worried about just jumping under the bar and going for it due to a lack of mobility. I've been doing a lot of stretching trying to ease into it. Deadlifted for the first time the other day and it felt fine, just out of the groove a bit. However, basic abdominal movements still cause pain. What are some ab exercises I should look into to train around the pain?
EDIT
Doing a 24 hour fast today. That extra time really makes it challenging. Four hours to go before I can eat, will consume cals immediately after training. I'll pin some frag right before I lift again. I'm definitely leaning out.
Sitting at 204.8lbs. I like where this is going.
Hit some chest. Had a great pump going. Decided I can't PR every day any more, can't max all the time, can't break my body down excessively.
Barbell Bench. 225 8x5 slow and controlled
Dumbell slight incline 40x8, 60x8, 100x8, 5x10 60lbs slow and deep
Machine flies: 10x10 10 seconds rest
cable flies: 5x12
Barbell bench to the neck: 135lbs 3x8
Getting back into squats slowly. Been working mobility and body weight stuff every day.
tallstraw
02-23-2015, 06:32 PM
Glad I'm not the only one. I always no matter what every time I lift I always finish it with a bunch of 1 rep maxes trying to beat it.
Still being super strict. I know I shouldn't, but I might need a binge day soon. The thoughts of food are keeping me up at night and it's disturbing.
As far as the peptides go, I don't know if the frag did anything or it's all mental. The clen works, hands down I love this stuff. Won't ever cut without it. The ipamorelin is giving me some great sleep. I'm doing it at 150mcg in the morning fasted, 150mcg pwo then have a shake to break my fast with carbs 45 minutes later, then once before bed at 200mcg. My energy in the gym has been great the past few days. I just don't want to leave.
Does anyone have advice for somewhat loose skin/stretch marks? I tried cocoa butter and more sun exposure in the past and that seemed to work, but I can't really get sun right now. Regular Lotion isn't doing shit.
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I like where this is going... A Lot. 3 more weeks to go. Getting more ipamorelin and frag. The sleep on ipamorelin is incredible and I actually have energy while training fasted on the frag. A little shout-out to Wes as well, OUJ is a GREAT product. I don't know what I'm going to do without it.
Sunday I was 204.8. If I can hit under 200lbs by saturday, I'm having a killer cheat day and getting back at it asap. I'm on a week off clen, definitely missing the appetite reduction it gives me.
Going to stock up for my next cycle. It's not for a while, but I figure by the time I get there a lot of the things I'd like to use will be banned. Going to grab 3-4 bottles of PN andro300, two of sdmz 3.0 (or superdrol) for a 4 week kick start, test e, hcg, arim, letro, nolva, clomid, etc. This won't be for a long time, but I'll just stockpile. Figure test+epiandro could be a fun mixture. If not test, then trest.
What's everyones take between test and trest? I know trest shuts you down hard, but it seems like it might be the more anabolic option and give better results over a 12 week span.
Hit back today. Got up to 275lb rows and 405 deadlift. Slowly climbing back up on the dead situation. Didn't want to push it too much, my injured leg started to buckle mid rep.
My weight remained stagnant for a week. Had my diet even more strict this week and cut back calories further while upping the clen. I'm not seeing any changes, but I never do. I'll hop on the scale sunday to see how this work has paid off. I'm hoping for 201 or even sub 200
KILLED back today. One of the best lifts I had in a while.
Warmups:
foam rolling
rope straight arm pulldowns light, 3x20
Pullups wide 3x8
Barbell Rows: 3x20 135lbs, 3x8 185lbs, 5x8 225 lbs, 2x6 275lbs, 1x30 135lbs
Hammer strength seated low row one arm: 90lbsx20, 135lbsx15, 180lbsx10, 225x10, 270x5
Hammer strength seated low row two arm (partner assist to squeeze reps): 230lbs 5x12
Wide Pulldowns: 5x8
Dumbell rows: 120lbs 2x10, 120lbs 1x20
Rack pulls: 405lbs 3x10
rope straight arm pulldowns: 3x20
This pic was from the end of summer:
http://i60.tinypic.com/mmpo9k.jpg
This pic was taken in january at 226lbs as I bulked for 5 months. I'm currently 204 after cutting, will go down to 190 eventually.
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I feel like I got fat as shit during this, but I definitely added some serious arm thickness looking at it now. Will be fun to go back home and take another pic at the end of my cut in the same spot. Then do a "year" progress pic wearing the same thing at the end of summer.
This pic was from the end of summer:
http://i60.tinypic.com/mmpo9k.jpg
This pic was taken in january at 226lbs as I bulked for 5 months. I'm currently 204 after cutting, will go down to 190 eventually.
http://i61.tinypic.com/43i86.jpg
I feel like I got fat as shit during this, but I definitely added some serious arm thickness looking at it now. Will be fun to go back home and take another pic at the end of my cut in the same spot. Then do a "year" progress pic wearing the same thing at the end of summer.
Figured it was due time for a progress picture of my cut. Things are getting exciting. Had this taken at 4am today, no food in me.
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What I learned from this past 8 months:
Alcohol really is bad for gains, it's not just a myth lol
Bulking hard works for bringing up weak spots
You don't have to spend countless hours in the gym to get results
Intermittent Fasting is the shit
Hit lagging parts 3-4x a week
Sleep has a HUGE effect on progress.
Refeeds help, a lot. I used to think they were just mental, but my body needs them once a week or my gym results are horrid.
***It's not about how much weight you can move*** Took me forever to understand this and realize it. I don't move nearly the numbers I used to, but I've packed on more size despite being significantly weaker. My mentality before made me think I constantly needed to lift big to get big and nothing could change that until recently with my injuries.
ROM doesn't mean much, just focus on where you feel the movement best. All about dat mind muscle connection.
My next cycle will be quite a ways out.
As of now, I'm in the air between test or trest. Leaning towards trest at a decent dose, epiandro or mast high, and kickstart it with sdrol. Will run Exem, ralox, and hcg throughout. My goals of this cycle will vary based on where I'm at, but I most likely want to use it to hit extremely low bf% levels while maintaining size or even putting some on.
VayneZ
03-17-2015, 10:44 PM
I agree with all that you have learned KGPL, you are inspiring me to lay low and shred form awhile!!!
Been absolutely killing it these past few days. Took a week off.
Destroyed shoulders yesterday. Just a couple numbers worth posting.
Hammer strength shoulder press- 3 plates each side for 4x5
Dumbell shoulder press- 2x6 100lbs. No spot. Haven't been able to get this since summer time.
Nice shoulder press! You think the plate loaded shoulder press I effective? I brought my chest up a lot using the plate loaded bench, for some reason never thought to use the shoulder press machine.
Nice shoulder press! You think the plate loaded shoulder press I effective? I brought my chest up a lot using the plate loaded bench, for some reason never thought to use the shoulder press machine.
I'm mixed on it. I hate the behind the neck one with a passion, I've never seen this shoulder press anywhere else. It's more of a vertical overhead press that has just an ever so slight angle to it. I feel like the pattern of movement combined with the amount of weight you can actually move has to be effective, but at the same time I never use it as my main movement, I always have a compound in there before it.
I've been feeling incredible lately.
Today was my rest day, but I couldn't take a day off. Went and did all kinds of cardio and abs.
Prowler pushes
Farmer walks
Yoke walks
sprints
leg raises
cable cunches
shoulder mobility work.
Had a rough lift today. Feeling burned out.
I'm going to take the plunge and run a low dose of exem, high dose ralox, clen, and a moderate dose of t3. My goal will be to lose weight at a slow pace, I know it's risky with the t3, but I'm willing to take the risk. I've always had slightly fatty tissue causing me to have puffy nips/gyno. I'm really hoping a month or two of this can clear this stubborn area out a bit.
Had a rough lift today. Feeling burned out.
I'm going to take the plunge and run a low dose of exem, high dose ralox, clen, and a moderate dose of t3. My goal will be to lose weight at a slow pace, I know it's risky with the t3, but I'm willing to take the risk. I've always had slightly fatty tissue causing me to have puffy nips/gyno. I'm really hoping a month or two of this can clear this stubborn area out a bit.
50mcg T3 a day for the last two weeks. Noticing some leaning out in the hamstring area, lots of striations. My guess is that my body is just cutting up in this spot and will show progress in other areas soon.
My next four weeks will consist of 60mcg t3, 100+mcg clen, 250mcg Frag 176-191 before fasted cardio and at night, 75mcg IGF LR3 PWO, 8mcg Yohimbine HCL pre fasted training, caffeine tabs when I'm feeling beat, and hemavo2 pre workout. I dropped creatine. I may hop on PN's All in one at some point.
Goals are to cut 8lbs while maintaining fullness. I had abs coming back in, but lost them, likely due to some bloating from the yohimbine or less fullness from the t3.
I'm looking for some advice on new ab exercises. Cable crunches and leg raises only go so far.
Also decided on my next cycle with the target time of september. 12 weeks
Using 25g 3ml syringes
500mg Test E
400mg Mast
Kick start: 30/30/30/30 superdrol, 600/600/600/600 Epiandro, maybe carry throughout whole cycle to keep DHT high and fight gyno
50-75 mg anavar after kick start
25mg Exem EOD
40mg Ralox ED
HCG
Possibly Clen/t3
Supps: Creatine, Animal Flex, Fish oil, multi's, carb product pre workout, whey, liver support
My goals with this cycle may change by then, but I don't think gaining 10-12lbs off of it+leaning out a little seems unreasonable.
Four weeks to look my physical best, going to be at a beach with a LOT of pictures being taken haha. Had my last cheat meal. Time to push myself to my limits. Goal to drop ten pounds and get visible abs untensed. I'm guessing I'm carrying about a pound or two of fat in stubborn areas that is just slightly covering them from when I'm not tensed.
The last week of my diet will look like this. Amounts will vary based on my weight.
20 min cardio
Meal 1: 6 egg whites, 1/2c oats
Training
PWO: glycoject/isolate
Meal 2: Tilapia, brown rice, broccoli
Meal 3: Grilled chicken, broccoli
Meal 4: Tilapia, Brocolii
Meal 5: Isolate shake before bed
As you can see, minimal carbs and extremely low calories. Dropping salt out too, just going to be using a lot of lemon/pepper as my seasoning.
Good luck with it KGPL! Seems close to what my diet is going to become very soon...
Here's the diet for this summer. Doing this for 6 weeks or so, then slowly increasing calories. My metabolism sucks.
Breakfast
3/4 cup egg whites (95 calories, 0/0/20g)
2 Whole eggs (147 calories, 10/0/13)
1/3C steel cut oats (200 calories 3/33/8) add cinnamon and stevia
Apple (95 calories, 25g carbs) or Banana
Totals: 532 calories, 41g protein, 58g carbs, 13g fat
TRAIN
POST WORKOUT
Whey shake, 1 scoop- 120 calories, 20g protein
Lunch #1
4 oz skinless, boneless chicken breast
3 oz sweet potato, boiled or baked, without skin, or sub for brown rice
½ oz English walnuts, shelled
Totals: 258 calories, 26g protein, 17g carbs, 11g fat
Lunch
4 oz Tilapia
½ cup long-grain brown rice
1 cup chopped broccoli, boiled or steamed
Totals: 263 calories, 29g protein, 34g carbs, 3g fat
Midday Snack- shake
1 scoop whey protein isolate
½ large (8") banana
1 tbsp natural peanut butter
Totals: 271 calories, 29g protein, 19g carbs, 9g fat
Dinner
8 oz Tilapia (300calories, 5/0/60)
180g broccoli (62 calories, 12/0/6
Totals: 362 calories, 66g protein, 12g carbs, 6g fat
Evening
1½ scoops whey protein isolate
Totals: 158 calories, 38g protein, 0g carbs, 1g fat
Daily totals: 1,995 calories, 249g protein, 140g carbs, 43g fat
So exhausted lately. Strength decreasing, motivation dwindling.
As a side note, I'm 206lbs now. Weight seems more steady.
Hit chest this morning, wasn't happy with it, so hit it again tonight.
I'm a little curious as to what's happening to my bench. I'm quickly losing reps and having to drop reps on barbell, but my dumbell has shot up to 150's for reps. 150's for reps, but currently struggling with 225 barbell??
Hit chest this morning, wasn't happy with it, so hit it again tonight.
I'm a little curious as to what's happening to my bench. I'm quickly losing reps and having to drop reps on barbell, but my dumbell has shot up to 150's for reps. 150's for reps, but currently struggling with 225 barbell??
That doesn't make any sense... are you doing DBs first then BB? That really makes no sense to me at all, I've never heard of anyone being stronger on DB than BB.
I've been alternating dumbell/barbell movements every chest workout. One I'll focus on dumbell, then the next time will be barbell. I really just struggle with all barbell movements. I hit 110's on DB shoulder press, but struggle with 135 5x5 standing military?
Maybe you're using a smaller range of motion with the DBs... that's the only thing I can think of. It's easy to know if you're going all the way up/down on BB, IE, Chest to almost locked out elbows. DBs it's harder to tell.
Did a little epiandro run. I'm going to stay on the natty side or a long long time after this. No cycling for another 5 years at least.
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weekend
06-01-2015, 08:35 PM
Did a little epiandro run. I'm going to stay on the natty side or a long long time after this. No cycling for another 5 years at least.
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good call man. don't end up on TRT like me
good call man. don't end up on TRT like me
I spent a little bit of time off in a hospital, came back in, hit a 365 bench, 115lb dumbell shoulder presses, and am unable to do leg work due to an injury. Really isn't a point in my hopping on the test/mast run as planned, I don't need to be any bigger. My shoulders are so big right now people are doing double takes when walking past me.
weekend
06-02-2015, 12:35 AM
I spent a little bit of time off in a hospital, came back in, hit a 365 bench, 115lb dumbell shoulder presses, and am unable to do leg work due to an injury. Really isn't a point in my hopping on the test/mast run as planned, I don't need to be any bigger. My shoulders are so big right now people are doing double takes when walking past me.
don't get ahead of yourself, they might just be looking at your fucked up face lol ;)
don't get ahead of yourself, they might just be looking at your fucked up face lol ;)
Hey now, my grandma told me I was handsome. That has to count for something.
Deadlifted for the first time in a while today. 405x12 and stopped there to save up for the rest of my back workout. I think I could pull a set of 25 if I'm fresh.
Some things to note. Hit a 225x6 seated shoulder press. I want 315 dammit. That's my new goal, 315 seated in the next year.
Well I decided it was time to get huge.
2g Test e
2g tren ace
800mg Mast e
Dbol 50mg e/d
http://i60.tinypic.com/14cgn0h.png
Just kidding. I'm on some osta and exem. Nothing else.
Need input. Looking at competing now. Am I at a reasonable spot to consider myself 13 weeks out?
You using straps on those? I have a hard time with deads over 315 for sets of 8+ with just chalk. Should probably just buy some straps.
You using straps on those? I have a hard time with deads over 315 for sets of 8+ with just chalk. Should probably just buy some straps.
No straps, just chalk. Try holding it with it with your fingers and not your palms, that was my biggest helping factor.
Mmm. I dunno man. My hands are only about 8" from Palm crease to top of middle finger. A little larger than average but not huge by any means.
I can just about close the CoC 2.5, I think I'll be able to close it by the end of the month.
I've battled with gyno my whole life. IT's 100x better now than before I ever cycled. All the epiandro, ralox, tamox, exem, and letro has really shrunk it back. I'm trying to keep it this way. I came off of everything except .25ml prami and 25mg exem every 3 days. Been this way for a month. the gyno just started to rebound a little. Not the lumps, but my nips are starting to puff up a little and expand in size. How should I go about fighting this? I don't want to be on drugs long term, but it seems that I need to stay on for a while. Should I just add more exem frequency and slowly taper? Exemestane/ralox/epiandro was the best gyno fighting combo I had, but I don't want to mess with any more shutdown.
Update. I'm now on 600mg Test E, 400mg Mast e, 6 caps of ultra stano every day. Going to double the mast dose most likely or add in a low dose of tren.
Scope75
09-01-2015, 09:53 AM
Your a fucking addict...
You can't do or stay on anything you plan or post here. Lol
Good luck.....
Your a fucking addict...
You can't do or stay on anything you plan or post here. Lol
Good luck.....
Lol I know the indecisiveness. There is a back story here though. My test levels were sky high before. Obviously due to my age... Randomly, I got hit with a very rough period of depression. My levels dropped to low 200 ng/dl. I originally planned on just doing an epiandro run to fight gyno and feel a bit better, but I decided to hold off. I went into three separate doctors, and all they would give me is the cream, despite any of my reason for wanting injections due to spreading from contact. I decided to take matters into my own hands and follow up with bloods every few months. I'm running a cycle, then cruising on 250 test cyp afterwards. Our medical system is fucked. I'm twenty years old, I shouldn't have to face these issues, throwing me on depression meds isn't the answer when there are numbers as low as that. I've had serious depression in my past too after I cut over 100lbs too fast. This is a personal choice that I'm doing for myself and nobody else.
Scope75
09-01-2015, 01:49 PM
Good mindset... Lol
At 20 you'll be chasing your tail the rest of your life.
entropy
09-01-2015, 03:22 PM
Good mindset... Lol
At 20 you'll be chasing your tail the rest of your life.
You're fucking kidding right? KGPL is 20? Dude. You know how crazy it is to mess with hormones when you're that young? Men develop well into their mid twenties. Messing with those processes is tempting fate.
Scope75
09-01-2015, 03:56 PM
Says he's 20 in the post above the one you quoted of mine.
Haven't updated this in quite a while. I'll get some pictures up soon. I know people disagreed with my choice of cycling. Fully recovered back to normal, except for a lack of sensitivity in the member, but I more so think that's the current girl since I never had an issue with others.
Current lifts at 223lbs
495 Back squat beltless wrapless
615 Dead beltless double overhand sumo
365 Bench
I'm looking to get my dead up to 635 in the next few months. Any suggestions? I'm doing a variation of squat every day right now. I like to call it deadlift and squat every day :D Focusing in on squats in the 8-10 rep range and deadlifts in the 4-6 rep range. Strange is skyrocketing. Packing on a bit too much bf% but I recently started adding cardio.
Powerlifting isn't my bag but a good plan I would imagine is getting good rest and eating a ton.
If I were working to increase numbers I would probably do like 3 days a week and maybe some ancillary work, or flexibility stuff every so so on off days.
Sleep lots and be happy with gains and don't stress.
VayneZ
04-15-2016, 02:11 AM
Haven't updated this in quite a while. I'll get some pictures up soon. I know people disagreed with my choice of cycling. Fully recovered back to normal, except for a lack of sensitivity in the member, but I more so think that's the current girl since I never had an issue with others.
Current lifts at 223lbs
495 Back squat beltless wrapless
615 Dead beltless double overhand sumo
365 Bench
I'm looking to get my dead up to 635 in the next few months. Any suggestions? I'm doing a variation of squat every day right now. I like to call it deadlift and squat every day :D Focusing in on squats in the 8-10 rep range and deadlifts in the 4-6 rep range. Strange is skyrocketing. Packing on a bit too much bf% but I recently started adding cardio.
Sick sick numbers man. You are born to be a powerlifer, with or without drugs. I know you can make it far without any hormones! I would finish What you are doing and then stay awhile without gear, get the best of what you already have age wise and genetics wise, and then BAM Use the right gear and it will all fall in to pieces. I'm on Deca and test now (see my log) , bUt doing it specifically for health issues. Although the side effects (size) is sick 😀😀
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