Stoppani's Pre-Jym is the best preworkout I've ever tried

[Freepressright]

I've tried a lot of pre-workout stuff through the years and been pretty disappointed -- so much so that I was making my own for a long time. I don't normally get on a pre-workout love fest, but my cousin won a contest on Jim Stoppani's web page or Facebook page (not sure which) and scored a free tub of Pre-Jym.

He was kind enough to give me four doses. I tried my first dose last night, and I can honestly say it's the most effective pre-workout I've ever tried. Energy and strength were huge, and clean. I scoped out the label and was pretty impressed.

20 servings to a tub, totaling 21 grams per serving, and it has generous doses of actives.

Creatine Hydrochloride 2 g
CarnoSyn® Beta-Alanine 2 g
Betaine (Trimethylglycine) 1.5 g
Taurine 1 g
N-Acetyl L-Cysteine 600 mg
AlphaSize® Alpha-Glyceryl Phosphoryl Choline 150 mg
Citrulline Malate 6 g
Beta vulgaris L. (beet extract) 500 mg
L-Leucine 3 g
L-Isoleucine 1.5 g
L-Valine 1.5 g
L-Tyrosine 1.5 g
Caffeine Anhydrous 300 mg
Huperzine A 50 mcg
Absorption Enhancer
BioPerine® 5 mg

Definitely a Five-Star experience.

[BoneDaddy]

Man.....I do like that profile.

[O_RYAN_007]

Wow, looks solid... I've been looking for a good pre workout! I may try this.

[BoneDaddy]

Is Amazon and BB.Com the only places to get it? Dafuq?

[weekend]

Toooo much caffeine

[Freepressright]

Toooo much caffeine

That was my first thought as well. I even worried about whether I should take it with that high of a dose. But I swear to you, it doesn't feel like it has that much caffeine, at all. No jitters. Not even a trace of them. You're wide awake, yet focused and calm, for about 4-6 hours and then it wears right off. There is no terrible crash.

Don't let the caffeine dose scare you. It's as smooth as the day is long. No crackhead effect.

Watch this vid:

Pre JYM Scoop Comparison - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L6_4KpYSkY)

[BoneDaddy]

Toooo much caffeine

What's that?

[ryhigh]

Interesting.. I just started logging Fully Loaded and loving it so far, interested in this tho

[BoneDaddy]

Interesting.. I just started logging Fully Loaded and loving it so far, interested in this tho

Fully loaded was going to be my next pre purchase, but now this has me intrigued....lol

[ryhigh]

Fully loaded was going to be my next pre purchase, but now this has me intrigued....lol

I love how Fully Loaded has GPLC and L Norvaline and the taste!! nom nom, but yeah im with you I may have to try this one out after

[Freepressright]

The taste of Pre-Jym was a solid 9 out of 10. Cherry Limeade. Bursting with flavor.

[BoneDaddy]

The taste of Jim was a solid 9 out of 10. Bursting with flavor.

That's what she said...........

[ryhigh]

That's what she said...........

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[Jack O'Neill]

Toooo much caffeine

Kiefer in its CBL protocol advices between 400 and 800mg of caffeine in pre workout :-) and 400 post.

I try once time 400mg after workout. Impossible to sleep all the night for me (end of training 6.30PM)

[Hank!]

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The PN guys attribute the sourness of All-In to the 2gms of Citmal , seeing the Pre-Jym has 6gms of Cit-Mal how does it taste?

I went through 4 bags of All-in from RXwhey a great pre workout but not the most enjoyable to drink, and it doesnt last long before it starts smelling funky (maybe the luecine).

[Freepressright]

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The PN guys attribute the sourness of All-In to the 2gms of Citmal , seeing the Pre-Jym has 6gms of Cit-Mal how does it taste?

I went through 4 bags of All-in from RXwhey a great pre workout but not the most enjoyable to drink, and it doesnt last long before it starts smelling funky (maybe the luecine).

So good it's hard to stop drinking. No joke. My cousin also gave his wife a dose and she loved the flavor as well. I give the taste a solid 9.

I thought about buying some All-In and adding 300mg of Caffeine Anyhydrous to it, to see how it compares to Pre-Jym. That'll be my next experiment.

Taste: 9/10
Mixability: 9.5/10
Effects: 9/10

[Hank!]

Cool , like your feedback.

Currently using Hybrid preamp Appletini flavor very tasty. No creatine or pump stiuff but Tada and MCC cover me there.

[ctAL]

honestly i have not seen a bad review on pre jym yet

an i believe it, the profile is awesome on the stuff..............i guess i never bought it because its a bodybuilding.com exclusive an you only get 20 servings

[Freepressright]

I love that Stoppani tells you exactly what's in it and doesn't hide behind some proprietary blend horseshit.

[KGPL]

I want to buy this and stack it with noxygen and cialis...

Pumps to the max.

[KGPL]

Stacked with noxygen it is INSANE. The pumps are unbelievable. I wasn't even chasing a pump, but my tri's and delts inflated like no other.

1 scoop pre jym, 2 noxygen. Taste was great as well, like a cherry pie with ice cream. Odd description, but the best I could come up with.

[Rodja]

I'd scratch the BA, add an extra 1g of Betaine to get the clinical dose, switch out CM for L-citrulline, and probably take out the NAC as well.

[Freepressright]

I thought CM was superior to plain L-citrulline. I've taken the plain L form before in high doses and didn't feel as though it did squat. But the malate form at 6-8 grams gave me head pressure.

[Rodja]

I thought CM was superior to plain L-citrulline. I've taken the plain L form before in high doses and didn't feel as though it did squat. But the malate form at 6-8 grams gave me head pressure.

CM is L-citrulline bound to a malate at either a 1:1 or 2:1. It was originally thought that CM was superior, but it has now shifted to straight L-citrulline.

[Freepressright]

I'm not arguing with you, but where is the shift occurring and which companies are switching back to the plain L-form?

[Freepressright]

Stoppani explains here why he suggests at least 6g of CM:


In the gym, my other lab, I’ve found that when working with doses found in most supplements, anywhere from 1-3 grams, L-citrulline provides more of a potent pump than citrulline malate. Citrulline malate, on the other hand, provides more of a strength and endurance boost during workouts than L-citrulline does. However, if you increase the dose of citrulline malate (with a ctrulline malate product that delivers citrulline at a 2:1 ratio of malate) to about 6 grams or more, it delivers significant improvements in muscle strength and endurance while increasing the muscle pump like you wouldn't believe. Let’s take a closer look at the research that further supports what I’ve seen in the gym.

Citrulline vs. Arginine (http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/citrulline-vs-arginine?preview#_)

[BoneDaddy]

Aaaaand it's sold out everywhere now that I'm ready to order.

[Freepressright]

Aaaaand it's sold out everywhere now that I'm ready to order.

I know! I had to order All-In because I can't find any Pre-Jym.

I can understand why. This stuff's the cat's ass. I haven't seen a single person claim this stuff didn't deliver.

[Rodja]

I'm not arguing with you, but where is the shift occurring and which companies are switching back to the plain L-form?

Athletix/PES for starters.


Stoppani explains here why he suggests at least 6g of CM:



Citrulline vs. Arginine (http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/citrulline-vs-arginine?preview#_)

His point regarding additional malic acid for the Krebs cycle for PCr production is pretty much moot because of the inclusion of CrHCl. That being said, I've never been a fan of any "pump" product from an ergogenic perspective. They're almost purely cosmetic with little to no sarcoplasmic or myofibrillar hypertrophy.