The 1 or Stenadrol by Olympus labs?

[OrionBixler]

...after I noticed how much of the other stack of Tren and Hexadrone I had to take....along with the fact that Hexadrone didn't have much feed back,I decided to take up the advice from some one who replied to my thread not too long ago.

In doing so I discovered The 1 and Stenadrol.

I really want to cut and actually gain a little bit of muscle for that high definition,striations,muscle separation and of course vascularity.
Which one of the products would you swole-miesters recommend?

[Freepressright]

Correct me if I'm wrong as I've been following orals a LOT less these days, but isn't The 1 essentially methyl DHT? I am 99 percent certain that's the case.

Other than not liking the methyl part, if it is what I said it is, I'm going to guess it would be an excellent product for muscle separation and vascularity, not to mention all the other benefits of DHT. The part I cannot address is liver toxicity which is inevitable with 17a methylated compounds.

I'd be more inclined to go with a Stano-type prohormone which converts to DHT quite efficiently. At least in that case you don't have any concerns of liver toxicity.

[SoCal-Nutrition]

I believe both of these compounds are more geared towards bulking...especially Stenadrol (mithras AND M-Sten).

if you're gonna go methylated: epi, halo, mechabol, etc are solid options that can be run long enough to offer some lean gains and recomp.

my favorite stack would be halo + furuza + 11-keto, add in some dermacrine or trest and that'd be killer!

[OrionBixler]

As far as I have looked into it The 1 is DHT. I've taken something similar about 6 months ago called 5 Alpha Test by Forerunner labs.It actually leaned me out.I was more assertive and my favorite thing about it was how I would wake up with no problem getting out of bed after a hard days of working out the day before. As far as I noticed with how similar the effects are compared to what is listed for The 1... and since I have never taken The 1...I'm hoping The 1 would be similar and if not maybe even better! :)

[Mad Mardigan]

I liked the One a lot. Methyl dht with an oxime attached, which can change how the compound acts in the body. That being said, I had big strength gains, tons of energy, and it was very dry. Almost like d-zine or similar, but drier, and I felt great on it. I would highly recommend this for your goals.

I think one of the sponsors carries the raw powder, that makes me happy.

[Mad Mardigan]

DOUBLE POST :eek:

[OrionBixler]

and so THE 1 it is!

[Freepressright]

As far as I have looked into it The 1 is DHT. I've taken something similar about 6 months ago called 5 Alpha Test by Forerunner labs.It actually leaned me out.I was more assertive and my favorite thing about it was how I would wake up with no problem getting out of bed after a hard days of working out the day before. As far as I noticed with how similar the effects are compared to what is listed for The 1... and since I have never taken The 1...I'm hoping The 1 would be similar and if not maybe even better! :)

The 1 would blow 5 Alpha Test out of the water. That stuff was way under-dosed (only 20-25 mg of active ingredient, the rest was cyclodextrin). Basically, it was a B12 infused breath mint with a hint of actual androsterone product. A methyl DHT will flat crush that stuff.

The only hangup I have with it is that it's 17a methylated. Seems a bit unnecessary to introduce something liver toxic to achieve the same results you can get from Stano or EpiAndro Hard/Epestaine Andro RX or something similar. To what degree it's toxic, I have no real metric. Anyone get any bloods while they were on this stuff?

[SoCal-Nutrition]

should checkout our black friday sale for some deals on D-Plex Powder ;)

[Scope75]

should checkout our black friday sale for some deals on D-Plex Powder ;)


X2 and I sure plan too or I'll wait until the NYE sale.

[Dragoninho]

The 1 would blow 5 Alpha Test out of the water. That stuff was way under-dosed (only 20-25 mg of active ingredient, the rest was cyclodextrin). Basically, it was a B12 infused breath mint with a hint of actual androsterone product. A methyl DHT will flat crush that stuff.
I can only agree with this. 5AT wasn´t useless, but pretty got damn weak. Trying FRL Alpha hard right know which will give some more hormone, but still in the lower range and without any delivery system.


The only hangup I have with it is that it's 17a methylated. Seems a bit unnecessary to introduce something liver toxic to achieve the same results you can get from Stano or EpiAndro Hard/Epestaine Andro RX or something similar. To what degree it's toxic, I have no real metric. Anyone get any bloods while they were on this stuff?

I havn´t tried The1 yet but I have done D-plex and that should be the same compound and to be honest do I think that even if the effects are in the same area between Stano products and D-plex/The1 isn´t they totally similar. I got a lot more... "push" of the D-plex than AndroHard for example (and I did love AndroHard, no shadow there). For me D-plex was AndroHard with a turbo. Same engine but more power.. does this make sense?

I havn´t tried EpiAndro Hard or Epiandro RX so I can´t talk for them, but for regular Stano and Androhard (and I got more effect from AH than ordinary Stano) I experienced it this way.

So long story short. I can see a use for The1 even when stano products is around, even if I not very pro methyls.

[OrionBixler]

I received my bottle of The 1 about a week ago. I've gone through a week already and not sure what to say as of yet... Usually I'll notice something around the 2nd week going into the 3rd week. Can't wait to see what happens. :D

[nate3993]

Still haven't noticed much after a week? The 1 is pretty potent. I mean. At least better pumps right?

[OrionBixler]

I noticed a slight more vascularity and I'm just making sure it's not the arginine from my multi vitamins.... Also libido did go up a bit. As for aggression.... I noticed a bit more assertiveness around the 5th day and on upper body day I blasted through my routine with the same intensity. I do notice a slight push in my work outs.... I know a lot more can be expected over time. This is what I'm looking forward too but don't let that mislead anyone here.I put in my 100% and take advantage of the benefits that a supplement/prohormone can offer. Let's see wtf happens later down the road! :D!!!

[OrionBixler]

Ok..OK!!! Today was leg day and lower back day. DUDE!!! I blasted through that routine like a boss! I felt the agression through my last reps and it shined the most when I was doing my deadlifts. Usually I'm a bit fried by the time I reach my deadlifts but today I was feeling a little more energy and my endurance definitely was higher than normal. I added another 20 lbs for my usual routine and to top it all off I ended up throwing in another 15 lbs just to see how much I can lift...I pulled off 5 reps and was very hyped about it.

I don't log much but I can also add that I throw in a kick boxing sesh and then run my miles after that... Usually on leg days right after my kick boxing session...I can only run 2-3 miles but today I ran 4 miles and I was wanting to run another mile but since I had to pick up my little brother from work I cut it down to 4 miles.lol!

Now let's wtf happens when I crash out tonight and then wake up...will I end up being sore or will I experience one of the listed benefits of this product...which is RECOVERY?

I"ll let you guys know whats up tomorrow! ;D!!!

[OrionBixler]

Ok...recovery was pretty decent. I mean I was sore but I was able to pull off running 6 miles after doing my kickbox sesh and working out my back. Tomorrow I'm going to run 10 miles after working out my shoulders and putting in some rounds into the punching bag. ;D

[Dragoninho]

Ok...recovery was pretty decent. I mean I was sore but I was able to pull off running 6 miles after doing my kickbox sesh and working out my back. Tomorrow I'm going to run 10 miles after working out my shoulders and putting in some rounds into the punching bag. ;D

It sounds as it working its magic with you. Congrats!
I may be an idiot but I couldn't find what dosage you are running.
How about the backpumps? Gettin any?

[OrionBixler]

I'm barely reaching my third week and the back pumps have finally kicked in yesterday...a weird tingly feeling but I know it will be showing up a lot more later on today when I wake up. I've noticed some serious striations showing up especially around my mid section which is the main reason why I got this magical stuff! This stuff seems to be a lot friendlier than epistane. lol Epi gets me all moody with aggravation and anxiety. Not only that seems to give me a bit lethargic at times. The 1 is awesome!Let's hope there isn't any drawbacks later down the following weeks to come.

Also can't wait to see how leg and lower back day will turn out later on this week....I'm taking it two doses of 50mg per day. One dose at day and one at night near dinner time. A total of 100 mg per day.

I can feel the aggression pickin up as well. I know I'll be a bit more aggressive by the middle of this week or the beginning of next week. I'll keep everyone posted on the results.

[OrionBixler]

Yeah...I'm starting to notice it magic hit it's peak! I've lost the stubborn lower back fat and around the love handles. Also noticed a lot more aggression...I'm on my fourth week going into my 5th... I've started to notice a slight moody behavior.... and it's getting tiresome.lol! I'm looking forward to getting off this cycle and calling it quits soon since I'm not fond of how it actually is stiffening my joints just a tad.lol