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Chad Frazier
02-07-2015, 08:27 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/07/5c0184ce191e4264831e726d04e1c234.jpg I would first like to thank P.N for sponsoring this run.Im not looking to get shredded this time around as I did when running epi andro in the past what I'm looking for is to harden up, minimize bf% in this bulk and bring out the vascularity. My bf% is still fairly low due to a very clean bulk.I started this yesterday applied it 3 times, morning, afternoon (before gym) and again before bed.i did a full pump because my body likes epi andro at the 3 to 400 range which is my sweet spot.Other things I'm taking are RagNOrok Elite preworkout, ThermoCore by Dynamic Formulas, protein, creacore and bcaas.im training 5 days a week right now . I'm on a high cal bulk. 4200 cals, high carb, high protein diet. This is what yesterday's back workout looked like
Weighted pull ups
25 lb plate x12reps
35 lb plate x12reps
35 lb platex10reps
45lb plate x7reps
T-bar rows
3 plates x 14 reps
4 plates x12reps
5 plates x7reps
5 plates x7reps again
Wide grip lat pull down machine (excellent machine btw)
130 lbs x12reps
140lbs x12reps
150lbs x12reps
170lbsx7 reps
Seated cable row w latpull bar (wide grip)
100lbs x 10 reps
110lbs x 10 reps
120lbs x 10 reps
Close grip lat pulls
90lbs x12reps
100lbs x12reps
110lbs x12reps
140lbs x7reps
Bent over rows straight bar (underhand grip)
135lbs x10 reps
145lbs x9 reps
155lbs x 8 reps
135lbs x12reps (destroyed me lol)
One arm rows
Drop set
130,120,110, down the rack didn't keep count this was my finisher
Destroyed back energy and strength was great. Still early to say what the andro 300 is doing but will know within the next week.
Energy:good
Strength:good
Endurance:very good
Acne:none
Libido:excellent
Aggression:average
Headaches:none
Pump:was awesome
Stay tuned guys
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WesleyInman
02-08-2015, 10:58 AM
Outstanding. Loving that you are doing this.

TY Chad, count me in!

Ape McGrapes
02-08-2015, 12:16 PM
Outstanding. Loving that you are doing this.

TY Chad, count me in!
Wes peep the "would you use" thread.

And I'm in for this.

Chad Frazier
02-08-2015, 01:56 PM
So this morning was weighing in at 206 which is good I'm averaging about 2 lbs a week increase. At this point. This summer I had cut down to 186 so I've definitely put on some good quality gains and have remained relatively lean.So I took a full pump of the andro 300 to start the morning off.I slept great last night too.I had a small breakfast started getting ready to do shoulders today. Took my usual RagNOrok Elite preworkout (which is great btw) and ThermoCore by Dynamic Formulas. I did notice my aggravation level was definitely increased today . which usually happens to me with epi andro. Not usually this quick though. Probably the difference between it being topical as opposed to oral.
Shoulders
Seated military press bb
135 x12reps
145 x10 reps
150 x8 reps
150 x7reps
Standing db lateral raises superset into db front delt raises
30 x12reps (both)
35 x10 reps (both)
40 x 8 reps (both)
40 x7reps (both) I go fairly light on this and very slow up and down, like to really focus on negatives with these.
Incline bench rear delt db flyes
30lbsx14reps
40 x12reps
45x10reps
50 x7reps (pump at this point was ridiculous, borderline painful lol.def andro300 related. Love the pumps I get from this)
Rear delt cross cable flyes (eye level setting) this is another one slow, controlled and focused, relatively lw
30 x12reps
40 x10 reps
40 x10 reps
30 til failure
Front delt raises on cable holding the ball of cable
40 x10
50 x9
50x8
55x6
Machine lateral raises
70 lbs til failure
80lbs til failure
90lbs til failure
Drop set to 40 lbs all the failure
Inman db shrugs
30 x30
40 x 25
50x22
50x20
Dropset til failure down the line to 15s (traps were on fire) have some slight tightness in neck . gonna do some smr later try to loosen it up some.
Was a great shoulder day.pump was insane. This first week I'll be posting a pic of the body part I workout and then again the last week.Not doing it to be full of myself or anything like that. I prefer to remain humble and teachable
Energy:good
Strength:normal
Acne:minor
Libido:average
Aggression:elevated
Headaches:none
Pump:****ing insane
Sleep:good






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SoCal-Nutrition
02-09-2015, 05:43 PM
in for the ride...there's a lot of speculation about this brand, will be interested in following along.

Chad Frazier
02-09-2015, 06:44 PM
Will give honest and thorough review

SoCal-Nutrition
02-09-2015, 07:26 PM
just spent like an 30 minutes on the phone with their rep...pretty cool guy, answered a lot of questions.

Hank!
02-09-2015, 08:01 PM
wait..how did i not know this was available?

Scope75
02-10-2015, 08:57 AM
In....
Also have a bottle to log here shortly too.

Freepressright
02-10-2015, 09:46 AM
How in the hell did I not know about this stuff?

Scope75
02-10-2015, 10:43 AM
How in the hell did I not know about this stuff?

You must not check AM.com much or at all.
Only reason I do is for all the logging opportunities and supp deals.

Chad Frazier
02-10-2015, 10:52 AM
Definitely alot of opportunities for good loggers

Strong_Guy
02-10-2015, 12:25 PM
Following along too. I picked some up and will be adding to my current ostarine run in a couple weeks.

GYMnTONIC.com
02-10-2015, 01:39 PM
Very cool.

Let me say my very minimal contact with PN has been very good. They have been very professional and courteous. Hoping for a good turnout so that we can carry this version too..

Fingers crossed..Can't wait to see what you do with this Chad :) Looking good man.

Chad Frazier
02-10-2015, 01:44 PM
You know we love some epi - andro lol.ive always ran this in a caloric deficit recomping so this time around should be awesome to see what results I get with it on a clean bulk diet..believe it or not vascularity and pumps already are beginning. Looking forward to it myself

Freepressright
02-10-2015, 01:53 PM
You must not check AM.com much or at all.
Only reason I do is for all the logging opportunities and supp deals.

You're right. I haven't been over there for a while.

Scope75
02-10-2015, 02:34 PM
You're right. I haven't been over there for a while.

Lots of new product hitting the market and coming out soon.
Might be worth a quick look.

nate3993
02-10-2015, 03:03 PM
Wtf. I had posted but apparently it didn't actually post. Whose product is this? This is PN's? What's the dose/ price?

Bam24
02-10-2015, 03:41 PM
90 servings 100mg $79.99 platinum neutra?? I think


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Chad Frazier
02-10-2015, 03:53 PM
I know it's available at flex it nutrition free shipping

Bam24
02-10-2015, 04:04 PM
Hmmm.. Doesn't look too shabby could be promising... Keep up the good work chad !


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Chad Frazier
02-10-2015, 04:08 PM
Def keep you guys posted. Due to atrocious weather yesterday and school and work today and two hrs of hw when I get home I won't be posting til tomorrow guys sorry.

Scope75
02-10-2015, 04:20 PM
Wtf. I had posted but apparently it didn't actually post. Whose product is this? This is PN's? What's the dose/ price?

Here's a link...

ANDRO-300 90ml - Platinum Nutraceuticals (http://platinumnutra.com/andro-300-90ml/)

There's a 50-55% off code floating around somewhere on AM.com.

Hank!
02-10-2015, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the links Scope. I see there is a TD 11-OXO, too. Will buy sooon.

Scope75
02-10-2015, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the links Scope. I see there is a TD 11-OXO, too. Will buy sooon.

Make sure you find that code or buy from a online retailer since its way over priced on that site.
If I run across that code I'll post it here.

Bam24
02-10-2015, 05:46 PM
Thanks scope !


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SoCal-Nutrition
02-10-2015, 05:48 PM
We'll have this shortly too

SoCal-Nutrition
02-10-2015, 07:34 PM
presale on Plat Nut Products has started...won't last long:
PreSale on transdermals from Platinum Nutraceuticals (http://www.swolesource.com/forum/socal-nutrition/2587-presale-transdermals-platinum-nutraceuticals.html#post44092)

Chad Frazier
02-10-2015, 10:13 PM
I'm gonna need more 300

Chad Frazier
02-13-2015, 11:09 PM
Day 4 weighed in at 208.2.thats a 1.2 gain from last week. Can't say for certain if from the andro but figured I should mention.didnt log for a few days due to weather here and super busy with school and work but gonna update now. .so day 4 woke up feeling great, alot of energy, libido was ridiculous. Felt mildly dehydrated though. Gonna up the water intake. Noticing a definite increase in aggravation. Which is usual for me when running andro.so I know it's kicking in. Besides that everything is going great . sleeping great and my appetite is ridiculous feel like I'm on e.q lol.so did biceps and triceps today.great workout was very focused, energy was awesome
Straight barbell curls
90 x12reps
100 x12reps
115x10
135x8
Standing preacher bar tri ext
100 x12reps
115 x12reps
125 x7reps
130 x7reps
Incline db curls
35 x10
40 x10
45 x9
50x8
30x14
Reverse grip skullcrushers(preacher bar)
60 x12reps
75 x10
85x9
90x7 (started to aggravate wrist)
Straight bar curls just 45lb bar for failure
39 reps
Close grip bench
175x14 (to light)
225x11
235x10
240x7
225 x 14
Preacher bench hammer db curls
35x12 each arm
40 x9
45 x8
50x7
Straight bar pushdowns (cable)
120 x12reps
130x10
145lbs x10
Concentration curls(standing arnie style)
50 down to 15s all to failure (Dropset)
Seated triceps dips
180x10
200 x8
215x7 (needed someone to keep me pushed down kept popping up)
Ended with abs..won't go on about those. .
Workout was great, super vascular...Noticing cramping a bit..need some taurine. .
Energy:good
Strength:mild increase
Acne:some
Libido:very good
Aggression:high
Pump:insane (some cramps)
Sleep:very good
Appetite:awesome

Chad Frazier
02-15-2015, 09:01 PM
So yesterday was chest day. .Felt good throughout the day. Definitely dealing with getting aggravated super easy. At times it gets annoying. Besides that though and some minor cramps only sides to mention. Starting to feel really strong and veins are just coming out of everywhere.legs look insanely vascular.one of fav things with epi andro is that crazy vascularity. Still maintaining my daily 4200 cals.diet is really on point this yr. Super clean. So here we go.
Chest
Decline bench (wide grip)
135lbs x20
225 x12reps
275 x10
285x9
315x7
Incline hammer strength (superset w Incline bench)
Hs 90lbs each sidex 12
IB 225 x10
Hs 135ea x10
IB 245x9
HS 180 each
IB 265x6
Flat bench db (dropsets til failure) 135s down to 30s (my chest was on ****ing fire) veins were coming out of everywhere. .forearms were starting to cramp..
Did these twice only got about half of what I did first time
Standing cable Incline flyes x10 reps at 60 lbs into standing mid pec flyes 60lbs into standing decline cable flyes..I do these 10 x10 x10
3 sets of those like that
Pec Dec 135 to failure (apprx 14 reps.did these 3 times)
Db pullovers 75 x10
85x9
90x7
90x7
Burned out with push-ups feet on bench fir as many as could get. .my chest was destroyed
Energy:higher than previous
Strength:mild increase
Libido:ridiculous lol
Aggression:alot in and out of gym
Sleep:great
Appetite:still great
Skin:little oily:
Headaches:none
Heartburn:none

Chad Frazier
02-18-2015, 12:32 PM
Alright so everything is basically the same as previously.cramping has gotten better with taking taurine. Energy, endurance is still very hi.sleep thus far hasn't been an issue. Only real side is the mood swings, get aggravated real easy.that Aggression is great in the gym though
Legs
Front squats (2 sec pause in the hole)
225 x10
235x9
245x8
250x7
135 til failure
Rear squats (2 sec pause)
275 x10
315 x8
325x8
350x7
365x5
225 til failure
Weighted lunges
135 x12reps
145 x10
150 x10
160 x8
Hack squats
360 x10
450x9
450x8
500x6
Straight leg deads
135 x10
140 x10
160x8 (back started to roll over, dropped weight
145x9
Hamstrings curls
All to failure reps no count
170 down to 70 in ten lb increments
Did those twice
Leg extensions
230 down to 70 all to failure same above
Calve raises
Seated
135x15
145 x10
180 x8
135x14
Standing calve raises
350x16
370x14
380x12
240x24
Wasn't a bad day. Felt strong.ran out of time before work.
All sides pros and cons same as previously

Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 07:22 PM
Back day
Woke up super tired today.slept like crap.i napped on and off til about noon.forced myself to workout. Was just off today. Don't believe the andro had anything to do with it. Just one of those days. .guess what? The gym turned that **** right around.
Back
Weighted pullups (wide grip)
25x14
35x12
45x11
60x8
Bodyweight to failure
Deads
225x12
315x10
365x8
405x6
Bentover straight bar rows (overhand)
180x12
225x10
235x7
Underhand (same as above)
Seated cable rows
Didn't keep track of weight, Dropset to failure
Db rows
80x12
90x12
110x10
125x8
70 to failure
Close grip over hand pulldowns
140x12
160x8
160x7
150x8 (had a brutal back pump was having trouble)
Straight arm push downs
Didn't keep track of weight
Was a great workout except towards the end back pump was painful.happens! It's expected on this
Energy:terrible til I worked out
Libido:average
Aggression:elevated
Sleep:terrible
Skin:oily
Headaches:none
Heartburn : none
Cramps (pumps):bad
I really don't believe alot of those sides were andro related beside the pumps and Aggression

Bam24
02-19-2015, 07:32 PM
I'm surprised the libido hasnt gone above avg yet... How would you say this compares to other company's epi andro? More potent, about what it's supposed to be ..any little thing you've noticed outside of the std log would be great!?! Greatly considering this product


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Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 07:35 PM
Libido has been elevated but today due to bad sleep it was just average. Waking up every morning with a tent, lol.no homo. So far it's my favorite and I've run, i.m.ls and prescription nutrition (which was awesome btw) I like the transdermal it kicks in so quick. I'm bulking and as vascular right now as I would be at 7% bf. It's crazy

Bam24
02-19-2015, 07:48 PM
Sounds great! So for u 3-400 is the sweet spot on td... Shoulders n chest ur main application spot or do u apply elsewhere ?


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Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 07:51 PM
400mg I personally do n best at high dosage with andro but then you have the Aggression to deal with but I'll take it lol.i apply on side of stomach lat area.inner side of bicep, chest

Bam24
02-19-2015, 07:59 PM
Thanks for the info...a lil more aggression would be fine for me..I'm super laid back (typically)


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Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 08:00 PM
It's tolerable you just get pissy quicker about little things.

Bam24
02-19-2015, 08:16 PM
Lol thanks man I'll be following GL with ur run !


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WesleyInman
02-19-2015, 08:16 PM
Libido has been elevated but today due to bad sleep it was just average. Waking up every morning with a tent, lol.no homo. So far it's my favorite and I've run, i.m.ls and prescription nutrition (which was awesome btw) I like the transdermal it kicks in so quick. I'm bulking and as vascular right now as I would be at 7% bf. It's crazy



If you say this is good..or better, i believe it.

I loved TD epi andro that I used to make..the price is the only concern. I ran TD epiandro and trest back in the day. What a combo!!

Looking forward to hearing more.

Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 08:28 PM
If you say this is good..or better, i believe it.

I loved TD epi andro that I used to make..the price is the only concern. I ran TD epiandro and trest back in the day. What a combo!!

Looking forward to hearing more.
You will see soon enough yourself, lol.i wanted to grab your td bck then when you had it. Must of been amazing. I can definitely say this is working very well. I'm not even using it for recomp lol.im interested in seeing how it works not cutting. So far so good

Chad Frazier
02-19-2015, 08:29 PM
Trest:( never had a chance to experience

Chad Frazier
02-21-2015, 10:23 PM
Super pissed missed gym today got called in early to work,got out gym was closed due to weather err

Chad Frazier
02-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Back on track baby! Woke up this morning had a great breakfast. 6 eggs(whole), sweet potato home fries, turkey sausage and some coffee and a fat burner ThermoCore. Had a couple clients I had to train at powerhouse this morning then I went at it.
I'm scaling back my workouts a bit because I'm burning massive amounts of calories due to lots and lots of sets and only like 30 to 45 second rest periods
Chest

flat bench (wide grip)
135lbs x20
225 x12reps
275 x10
315 x8
335x7
Incline hammer strength (superset w Incline bench)
Hs 90lbs each sidex 12
IB 225 x10
Hs 135ea x10
IB 245x9
Flat bench db 110x12, 135x8
Standing cable Incline flyes x10 reps at 70lbs into standing mid pec flyes 70lbs into standing decline cable flyes..I do these 10 x10 x10
3 sets of those like that
Pec Dec 135 to failure
Db pullovers 75 x10
85x9
90x7
95x7
All lifts were mostly up from last chest session. Definitely was beneficial cutting some things out and giving extra time I was basically doing strength endurance. Great for cutting not for maximum size
I had to cut the andro 300 down to two full pumps a day from 3.my agitation was terrible was getting pissed off over the smallest shit.been a lil better today
All Sides are the same except for what I just mentioned

Bam24
02-24-2015, 08:20 PM
Do u feel the difference from 300 to400 would be significant difference??I started 300 today. .. It's kinda difficult to gauge half a pump with the mechanism that it uses and the consistency of the product.. Stuff smells and dries good tho


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Chad Frazier
02-24-2015, 08:38 PM
It is very hard to distinguish so I just cut bck a full pump..I'll go back up soon but I need a few days to get my irritation level in check

Bam24
02-24-2015, 09:05 PM
Gotcha lol.. I would love to do 2 full pumps but that's only 22.5 days... 1.5 =300 mg which is 30 days.. And moneys tight or else I'd jump on another bottle or Wes's 4for 130$


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Chad Frazier
02-24-2015, 09:07 PM
Yes wes has the deal going on right now. .very good epi andro. .if you've never run his, it's kickass

Chad Frazier
02-24-2015, 09:08 PM
Lol I was at 3 full pumps daily.

Bam24
02-25-2015, 05:13 AM
No wonder agitation was an issue .. Haha


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WesleyInman
02-25-2015, 01:45 PM
I'm running at 4 full pumps ED..too soon to tell.

Chad, is this run over?

Chad Frazier
02-25-2015, 01:52 PM
No not yet, close though unless I get another bottle

Chad Frazier
02-25-2015, 01:53 PM
I love andro, don't wanna come off lol.

Chad Frazier
02-25-2015, 01:53 PM
Or a 3 pack

Bam24
02-25-2015, 04:38 PM
I'm running at 4 full pumps ED..too soon to tell.

Chad, is this run over?

Holy crap!!! Hahah go big I guess lol. Lemme know how it works for yu.. Hopefully the agitation doesn't get to out of hand ;)


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Chad Frazier
02-27-2015, 06:40 PM
Feeling great guys. Strength is up, energy and libido is crazy.hammered out a quick back and bicep workout today nothing too insane. Quick strong pump and out
Straight bar curls
100 x10
120x11
135 x9
135 x8
Preacher curls
125x9
130x9
135x8
100x13
Hammer preacher db
40x14
50x12
55x9
60x7
Overhand curls small straight bar
70x9
80 x8
85x8
70x13
Spider curls (very slow, very controlled)
60x12
70x12
80x8
80x7ish lol
Back
Bent over rows
135x12
145x10
175x8
185x7
Vbar lat pulls
130x10
140x10
160x8
170x7
Tbar rows
3 platesx14
4 plates x12
5 plates x8
4 plates x9
Pullups 4 sets to failure
Seated straight bar rows
4 sets@140,150,160,100 to failure
No new sides, energy great. Aggravation on and off.bp felt a little elevated today besides that felt great

Bam24
02-27-2015, 07:23 PM
Feeling great guys. Strength is up, energy and libido is crazy.hammered out a quick back and bicep workout today nothing too insane. Quick strong pump and out
Straight bar curls
100 x10
120x11
135 x9
135 x8
Preacher curls
125x9
130x9
135x8
100x13
Hammer preacher db
40x14
50x12
55x9
60x7
Overhand curls small straight bar
70x9
80 x8
85x8
70x13
Spider curls (very slow, very controlled)
60x12
70x12
80x8
80x7ish lol
Back
Bent over rows
135x12
145x10
175x8
185x7
Vbar lat pulls
130x10
140x10
160x8
170x7
Tbar rows
3 platesx14
4 plates x12
5 plates x8
4 plates x9
Pullups 4 sets to failure
Seated straight bar rows
4 sets@140,150,160,100 to failure
No new sides, energy great. Aggravation on and off.bp felt a little elevated today besides that felt great

Good update!! I'm on day 5. And random erections hv begun(prob placebo)... Prob gonna up it too 2 full pump:). Keep up the great work chad !!


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Chad Frazier
02-27-2015, 07:24 PM
Good update!! I'm on day 5. And random erections hv begun(prob placebo)... Prob gonna up it too 2 full pump:). Keep up the great work chad !!


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Thanks man will try. I don't think it's placebo the td kicks in quickly

Chad Frazier
03-07-2015, 09:34 PM
My apologies for the delay in logs guys. Life on life's terms lol.been training though. At 3 full pumps still.im up 4.5 lbs since the beginning of this. Very vascular. The agitation has dropped significantly since cutting the extra pump.
Today I had to go stupid in the gym make up for a couple missed days due to training others, classes I teach and regular work. So here we go
Chest
Incline bb
135 x10
225 x12reps
245x10
265x6
Hammer strength Incline
3 plates each side 3 sets all til failure
Decline bench bb
225 x12reps
275 x10
315 x8
335x6 (no spot didn't wanna chance one more)
Pec Dec
Didn't keep track of weight
4 sets all to failure
Superset standing flyes (incline, straight across chest, decline
Chest was on fire
Back
Bentover rows
225 x10
235x9
245x8
245x7
Close grip underhand lat pull down
140x12
150x11
170x9
180x8
T-bar rows
3 platesx14
4 plates x12
5 plates x7reps
3 plates til failure
Close grip over hand pull ups
4 sets til failure
Vgrip seated rows
140x9
150 x8
160x8
170x6 (was getting beat)
Calves
Donkey calve raise full stack
4 sets all til failure
Last set was half stack til failure
Standing calve raises 90,110,130,160,120,80
That was all I had in me lol. Was tore up man
Sides
Minor acne
Waking up at night a bit
Pros
Extremely vascular
Libido is crazy
Weight is up
Endurance up

WesleyInman
03-08-2015, 03:17 PM
Loving the log Chad..ty.

Weights look very solid, u got even stronger...I'm impressed as always!!!

I have Andro300 and mixed some regular rubbing alcohol into it..tiny amount because alot of the solution was sticking to the sides of the bottle on inside so I watered mine a tiny bit to get all of it. For some odd reason, and it could be placebo..I feel like it is working better now. Maybe because I am shaking before each use and it's mixed better?

Who knows..but this stuff is legit.

I honestly have to say with all my experiences with the epiandro products..I still personally respond to the IML version and the PN version (epi andro hard) not a sales pitch either. I do like this version too though tbh..it def is working.

Chad Frazier
03-08-2015, 03:19 PM
The p.n is def awesome. Looking back in overall. I responded better but it's also hard to say because this is my first time taking it not for recomp. Always great to hear from ya wes. Thanks alot man

Chad Frazier
03-11-2015, 10:35 AM
So weighed in this morning. Started this at 205.2 right now 211.putting size on quick. Fucking abombs gotta love em. My problem with pip is fixed just warmed up the vials . definitely noticing the sus250 waking up brick every morning. Sorry for too much info there lol.i believe the deca is slowly kicking in as well. Joints feel great. BP comes and goes. Nothing to bad. Happy with how things are going. Towards the end of this I'll be getting bloods done. So ill keep ya posted on that as well.
Biceps
Seated db curls
45x12
50x10
55x10
60x8
Preacher curls (preacher bench)
80x14
100x12
135x8
140 x7reps
Seated single curl machine (not sure correct name lol)
50 x10
60x10
70x7
70x7
Rope curls (cable)
140x10
150x10
170x8
180x6
130 til failure
Triceps
Seated preacher bar ext
80x14
100x12
125x10
135x9
Lying reverse grip skullcrushers
80x13
100x10
110x8
100x8
Seated plate loaded dips
180x12
205x10
210x8
Incline tricep ext (cable)
80x12
90x11
100x8
100x8
Lying db french press
40x11
50x10
55x9
60x7
The pump was so insane I stopped.

booklifter
03-11-2015, 11:19 AM
I have Andro300 and mixed some regular rubbing alcohol into it..tiny amount because alot of the solution was sticking to the sides of the bottle on inside so I watered mine a tiny bit to get all of it. For some odd reason, and it could be placebo..I feel like it is working better now. Maybe because I am shaking before each use and it's mixed better?

I'm glad you said that. For a couple weeks I've been using (theoretically) dosage that should have me crashing through walls, but feel little if anything. I was thinking about picking up a ton of salvo and throwing a bottle of that into each bottle of andro-300, but that would end up costing an awful lot. I'll try just the isopropyl alcohol first. I do have concerns about skin condition using large amounts of power-solvent like alcohol or dmso over the long term, but we'll see. For what it's worth, I've been shaking every time (prior to adding anything else) and it doesn't seem to help.

Chad Frazier
03-16-2015, 06:42 AM
Yesterday was back day. Still feeling really good. Size and weight continues to keep packing on. Appetite is still really good.gonna stay at the same dosage unless I stop putting on weight. At 212.8 yesterday morning.
Back
Weighted pullups
BwX 16
25x14
45x10
55x9
Deadlift
315x12
405x8
415x8
435x7
Tbar rows
3platesx12
4px11
5px9
5px8
Kroc rows
90x10
110x8
130x7
70 til failure (slow very controlled, hard held contraction)
Seated cable rows (long bar)
130x9
140x8
150x7
Close grip over hand lat pulls
130x10
140x9
150x7
140x8
Straight arm lat pushdowns
70x14
80x12
80x11 (elbow was starting to bother me) called it a day. Kickass pump

Chad Frazier
03-17-2015, 12:29 PM
Slammed out chest yesterday. Was a good session. Not a ton of volume just real focused controlled reps with solid contraction. My andro is spitting it out so almost done guys:(
Chest
Incline bb
225x12
245x10
265x9
275x7
Hammer strength Incline
2 plates each side x14
3platesx12
4 plates x10
Decline bb
235x12
275x10
295x8
315x7
Pec Dec
4 sets very heavy (not sure exact weight)
Standing flyes (incline, straight chest level, decline)
60x12 each.these are supersets from incline, chest level to decline)
70x10
80x9
90x7
Db pullovers
70,80,90 all til failure. . That was it

Scope75
03-17-2015, 12:39 PM
Well since the bottle is almost done what's your thoughts on Andro 300 vs oral epiandro?

Chad Frazier
03-17-2015, 12:43 PM
Personally it kicked in fast for me. Basically helped with vascularity. It's def better run when cutting. It's hard to say because I'm bulking and only have taken it before while doing recomp so I think it would be hard to judge. I still think Andro hard by .p.n takes the cake

Scope75
03-17-2015, 01:17 PM
good to know.

Few more weeks then I'll start my bottle of Andro300 and see how it treats me.
Hopefully it'll be RECOMP CITY!!!

Bam24
03-17-2015, 03:15 PM
I'm not a fan of it personally... Vasculararity lil higher libido not much for recomp... The pump mechanism is terrible.. If u hv an empty bottle of salvo use it with the dropper.

Iml and pn are superior iml.. Liking pn better do to the higher my per pill.. Rather take 4 pills than 8

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Bam24
03-17-2015, 03:16 PM
I'm not a fan of it personally... Vasculararity lil higher libido not much for recomp... The pump mechanism is terrible.. If u hv an empty bottle of salvo use it with the dropper.

Iml and pn are superior iml.. Liking pn better do to the higher my per pill.. Rather take 4 pills than 8

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Chad Frazier
03-17-2015, 03:23 PM
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P.n is definitely amazing. I agree the pump does suck and the liquid is watery and gritty.