PreSale on Stano Cyclodextrin complex raws

[SoCal-Nutrition]

Presale Pricing - Expecting this early April

Stano Cyclodextrin Complex Powder 20g (Presale) (http://socal-nutrition.com/epiandro-cyclodextrin-20g)

[booklifter]

Stano Cyclodextrin Complex Powder 20g (Presale) (http://socal-nutrition.com/epiandro-cyclodextrin-20g)

Just so we're clear, this is complexed with cyclodextrin, not merely combined with it, right?

Don't take it personally, I only ask because of the context/confusion many had on the thread that led into this release.

[booklifter]

Also, the product description isn't entirely clear - is 20g the amount of epiandro or the total mass including the cyclodextrin?

[SoCal-Nutrition]

This is a epiandro cyclodextrin complexed :) The weight is the total mass of 20g of the complex.

Please let me know what has you confused about the weight on the site. it states 20g of epiandrosterone cyclodextrin powder...I appreciate the feedback, but I don't see where the confusion would be. The problem is probably that I wrote it...of course it makes sense to me.

[booklifter]

It's not that anything written is confusing just that the ratio or the 'NNN g (as ____ complex)' ingredient wasn't explicitly specified. It may not be a problem, perhaps I'm just obsessive, but on similar products' labels I'm accustomed to seeing this information called out.

So that begs the question, what _is_ the ratio or the amount of epiandro in the 20g complex?

[SoCal-Nutrition]

It's not that anything written is confusing just that the ratio or the 'NNN g (as ____ complex)' ingredient wasn't explicitly specified. It may not be a problem, perhaps I'm just obsessive, but on similar products' labels I'm accustomed to seeing this information called out.

So that begs the question, what _is_ the ratio or the amount of epiandro in the 20g complex?

every gram should be 300mg epiandro and 700mg cyclodextrin

[booklifter]

every gram should be 300mg epiandro and 700mg cyclodextrin

Excellent, thank you.

[SoCal-Nutrition]

I've updated the product description to include this information

[SoCal-Nutrition]

Also, the presale pricing was wrong on the site (it's now lower)...I've corrected it and refunded the difference on the orders that had already been placed.

[bignick765]

Quick question! Can this be used transdermally if complexed with cyclodextrin? I am unsure if this complex will improve bioavailability if administered via this route and could not find anything online pertaining to the topic. Also, what is the typical daily dosage of this compound? Does 1500 mg of this powder (450 mg epiandrosterone) equate to 900 mg regular epiandrosterone powder? Any input would be greatly appreciated, as this product seems highly intriguing!

[booklifter]

Absolutely not. The molecular weight of the cyclodextrin is far too high to be absorbed through skin versus gut.

(and welcome to the forum)

[SoCal-Nutrition]

No, the cyclodextrin is there to increase the bioavailablity of the epiandrosterone.

we do also have raw epiandrosterone available for use in making td's:
Epiandrosterone Powder (3g) (http://socal-nutrition.com/muscle-builders/nitrogen-enhancers/epiandrosterone-3-grams)

and, yes...welcome to the forum!

[SoCal-Nutrition]

we worked out a better deal on the raws for the epiandrosterone cyclodextrin complex...50% more for the same price:
Stano Cyclodextrin Complex Powder 30g (Presale) (http://socal-nutrition.com/progainz/epiandro-cyclodextrin-30g)

[SoCal-Nutrition]

epiandrosterone cyclodextrin complex will begin shipping mid to late next week

Stano Cyclodextrin Complex Powder 30g (Presale) (http://socal-nutrition.com/progainz/epiandro-cyclodextrin-30g)

I'll continue the presale pricing through the weekend. after that it'll go up $5

[derekh83]

Yes! I am ordering some now.

[Mad Mardigan]

Ahh finally get to try this stuff. :)

[SoCal-Nutrition]

if you want the raws...get on it...there are only 8 units of 30g left (240g in total)

I'm waiting to hear back from the manufacturer about the capped version of it (alpha stano (http://socal-nutrition.com/alpha-stano))...labels are being designed now.

[bignick765]

Can't wait to receive the raw powders. The CNS stimulation from epiandro is amazing, and unbelievably clear-headed as well. Excited for it to ship!

[tallstraw]

I want to buy some..how is dosing? So I know how to dose it better? Heard nothing but phenomenal about Epi ando...and now that it can get way better absorption im down.

[BBG]

I want to buy some..how is dosing? So I know how to dose it better? Heard nothing but phenomenal about Epi ando...and now that it can get way better absorption im down.

2 grams should be adequate dosing. That's 600 mg of stano active... should be more than enough since it's complexed. Who knows even 1 gram could be good to go with such a strong version of stano

[tallstraw]

I shall see, I shall see. I may buy 90g and see how 3 a day is for a month

[SoCal-Nutrition]

FPR has been running it at 600 and I think he said 750 was too high.

we're down to the last 120 grams available in powder form (4 orders at 30g each).

[bignick765]

Have the raw powders shipped yet? I am chomping at the bits to receive this. First product I will be using that has been complexed with cyclodextrin. The research I have read on complexed molecules is quite impressive, so I am expecting big things!

[SoCal-Nutrition]

Sorry bud, these won't begin shipping until late this week...there are enough orders that it may also take us a few days to a week to get all of them packaged and shipped too.

[ripped218]

Socal will this slow down your shipping speed on all orders placed those not including this item too?

[SoCal-Nutrition]

@ripped218, with the delivery of the raws and the release of Vedius...things will be pretty crazy over the next couple weeks.

But, we will not let it keep us from making sure you guys are taken care of!

[bignick765]

Thank you for your response SoCal! You guys ran through it quickly, jeez!!! Once I heard that there was only 120g left, I had to place another order to stock up. This will most certainly be worth the wait *grins devilishly*

P.S. Great customer support throughout the whole product, I thoroughly appreciated the phone conversation updating me on the status of the raw powders. Not many companies are vested enough in the satisfaction of their customers to take the time out of their day to do such a thing. You have my continued service for many orders to come

[SoCal-Nutrition]

Woo Hoo!

All the orders for the Stano Cyclodextrin presales have been packaged and should be out tomorrow

[SoCal-Nutrition]

some notes on this:
I tried 1.5g with my protein shake. I learned 2 things:
1) 1.5g at one time is too much for me
2) this does not taste good in chocolate, I recommend mixing with a preworkout or something tart flavored (I'm thinking of trying it with Orange Xtend or Lemonade Purple wraath - the two amino complexes I like).