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Dragoninho
04-07-2015, 10:56 PM
Is it anyone here that have used any ecdysterone product with positive results?
I used it for over 15 years ago but honestly don't remember if it gave me anything worth to try it again.

Reason that I bring this up is that some people I know have been raving about this Mass Pro Synthagen and they swear by it...

Ape McGrapes
04-07-2015, 11:51 PM
I ran one from LG a few years back. It seemed to be the best on the market at the time. I was also on Androhard v2 though, so who knows what it did for me.

Personally I wouldn't waste your money. This stuff pops up every five years or so, and only seems to look good on paper.

Lot of better supps with human data behind them to choose from.

Freepressright
04-08-2015, 06:46 AM
The science behind ecdysterones is solid. The problem, however, has been the same for years.

No one can make them bioavailable enough to make much of a difference in the human body. LG Sciences had a sublingual ecdy product that I tried. It gave me terribly diarrhea and not much else.

I'd probably be inclined to save my money if I were you.

Ape McGrapes
04-08-2015, 08:59 AM
Everything gives you diarrhea ^^

tallstraw
04-08-2015, 09:13 AM
That's so true Ape, it's the one side effect I can always count on from FPR lol

Freepressright
04-08-2015, 09:25 AM
LOL - yes, it is true, I am the resident asswater specialist.

DAA gives me severe diarrhea. Beef protein isolate gives me terrible shits. And that ecdy stuff gave me the sharts too.

I can't forget All-In. If it is not diluted with at least 16 ounces of water, the next shit I take will be a brown shower.

weekend
04-08-2015, 10:06 AM
Man nothing gives me diarrhea lol

Why can't ecdysterons be transdermally applied?

Freepressright
04-08-2015, 11:15 AM
Man nothing gives me diarrhea lol

Why can't ecdysterons be transdermally applied?

If laxogenin can be applied topically, I see no reason why ecdysterone cannot be. I guess it all comes down to molecular weight. Powder City has raw ecdy powder at a pretty decent price. Might be something worth trying.

mahatma
04-08-2015, 01:56 PM
Man nothing gives me diarrhea lol

Why can't ecdysterons be transdermally applied?

Molecular weight is the enemy for a TD. You could try but it would spread like mud and trying to get through the dermis would be very challenging.

mahatma
04-08-2015, 02:02 PM
Is it anyone here that have used any ecdysterone product with positive results?
I used it for over 15 years ago but honestly don't remember if it gave me anything worth to try it again.

Reason that I bring this up is that some people I know have been raving about this Mass Pro Synthagen and they swear by it...

I have tried the MPS and it did provide much improved recovery. It is best paired with the blueprint for optimal effect. I liked E-Bol, double dosed, but its no longer available and not likely to return anytime soon. Like most herbals people expect too much from them and are easily disappointed because the effects are minimal compared too the ol days of PH/DS.

I've spent years and a whole bunch of $$$ on ecdy products only to find most are under dosed and to achieve correct amounts is cost prohibitive ie the return on investment is poor.

The best option today would be the MPS due to it's not just an ecdy product