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hossam
05-03-2015, 10:09 PM
i have a stubborn billy fat that doesn't want to go away with diet and training

so i will be trying 2 types and i will post my review about them here

Dermacut & Eviscerate SMOLDER by Evolutionary Muse

i will start with Dermacut and see how it goes

anyone have experience with a good topical fat burner?

Cobalt
05-04-2015, 12:13 AM
Only fat burner that I have heard feedback from was Dermatherm by PP.
Interested to see how the SMOLDER does.

hossam
05-04-2015, 10:11 PM
Only fat burner that I have heard feedback from was Dermatherm by PP.
Interested to see how the SMOLDER does.

i didn't have the chance to try Dermatherm but i am sure it was legit!

since i have on hand 4 bottels of Dermacut and 3 of the SMOLDER
i decided to use both in the same time but on different areas of the body
for comparison:
the SMOLDER on the belly fat and Dermacut on the arms
as i don't think Dermacut is a strong fat burner as i couldn't find a single review on it anywhere!
yesterday i used both :
for the SMOLDER it is a brown liquid substance
while the Dermacut is a creamy type
after my morning shower i applied the SMOLDER on the belly and after 5 minutes i felt like
i applied menthol on it, while on the arms i applied the Dermacut cream
and no feeling at all!

Freepressright
05-05-2015, 06:42 AM
i didn't have the chance to try Dermatherm but i am sure it was legit!

since i have on hand 4 bottels of Dermacut and 3 of the SMOLDER
i decided to use both in the same time but on different areas of the body
for comparison:
the SMOLDER on the belly fat and Dermacut on the arms
as i don't think Dermacut is a strong fat burner as i couldn't find a single review on it anywhere!
yesterday i used both :
for the SMOLDER it is a brown liquid substance
while the Dermacut is a creamy type
after my morning shower i applied the SMOLDER on the belly and after 5 minutes i felt like
i applied menthol on it, while on the arms i applied the Dermacut cream
and no feeling at all!

How long do you figure the bottle of Smolder will last?

hossam
05-05-2015, 09:14 AM
How long do you figure the bottle of Smolder will last?

it will last for a long time as per the dose on the bottle

it says apply a half - dollar sized amount
to entire abdominal area after morning shower
for legs/hips/buttocks use around a nickel size for each area

it is 180 ML so i figure it will last for more than 2 month if used one time a day
but i intend to use it twice a day
i just applied it now for the second time today

hossam
05-05-2015, 09:17 AM
after i applied it for the second time i feel like i just
set my abdominal area on fire!
burning like hell, but i like it

BBG
05-05-2015, 09:55 AM
Don't forget about DJ ''s favorite, clen-viscerate.

Cdsnuts
05-05-2015, 10:39 AM
Don't forget about DJ ''s favorite, clen-viscerate.

DJ....who's that? ;^P

hossam
05-05-2015, 10:08 PM
Don't forget about DJ ''s favorite, clen-viscerate.

i add Dinitro & T3 from our old friend EVO
and Clen is on the way

Bam24
05-06-2015, 08:41 AM
i add Dinitro & T3 from our old friend EVO
and Clen is on the way

I miss this friend terribly !:(


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Hank!
05-06-2015, 10:09 AM
I cannot speak to Eviscerate, but I can vouch that I do see benefits when using Absolutely Abliterated. That bottle lasts a good 45 if not 60 days

hossam
05-08-2015, 09:23 AM
after 4 days of using Dermacut all i can say it is a waste of money product

don't buy this shit! it doesn't do or feel anything even on the lowest fat areas
like arms!

on the contrary with Eviscerate SMOLDER i feel the heat on my abdominal area
and i can see changes of how it looks in general

Bucks
05-08-2015, 09:52 AM
I miss this friend terribly !:(


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Damn straight on this !!

BBG
05-08-2015, 09:59 AM
after 4 days of using Dermacut all i can say it is a waste of money product

don't buy this shit! it doesn't do or feel anything even on the lowest fat areas
like arms!

on the contrary with Eviscerate SMOLDER i feel the heat on my abdominal area
and i can see changes of how it looks in general

I want to add this in about a month or two to finish my cut. Maybe drop some clen in the bottle for a little extra

Bucks
05-08-2015, 11:33 AM
I still have a couple tubes of dermatherm . How much Clen would you dose with it topical ?

hossam
05-13-2015, 04:05 AM
I want to add this in about a month or two to finish my cut. Maybe drop some clen in the bottle for a little extra

do you think adding Clen to the bottle will be effective as oral usage?

hossam
05-18-2015, 10:09 AM
i have added liquid clen to the Smolder bottle and i can feel the burning in the
applied area more, but i only added about ten drops just to try it and it was great

Freepressright
05-18-2015, 01:14 PM
i have added liquid clen to the Smolder bottle and i can feel the burning in the
applied area more, but i only added about ten drops just to try it and it was great

I didn't know Clen could have a local effect. If that really works, that's nifty as hell.

hossam
05-19-2015, 10:08 AM
I didn't know Clen could have a local effect. If that really works, that's nifty as hell.

sure it has made the Smolder works more effectively, the burning sensation in the applied area
is now more with Clen around 12 hours! without the clen the effect was about 5 to 6 hours
so it really did a huge difference, also now i can feel the Clen side effect like increased heart beat.
i discovered that the sun increases the burning sensation to a degree some people might find it very unpleasant experience
it is like you have literally set your abdominal area on fire!
so i will be increasing my Taurine dose from 3 MG a day to 5 a day for the increased heart beat
i am so happy that my abdominal area is finally coming down, it is coming down slowly
but better than nothing.

Mad Mardigan
05-19-2015, 11:08 AM
Ahh clenviscerate. Always wanted to try that. Try to keep track of the dosage you are adding hoss, and keep us updated. I've had a bottle of clen I've been sitting on for years. Prefer albuterol but gotta do something with this damn clen lol.

Freepressright
05-19-2015, 12:12 PM
sure it has made the Smolder works more effectively, the burning sensation in the applied area
is now more with Clen around 12 hours! without the clen the effect was about 5 to 6 hours
so it really did a huge difference, also now i can feel the Clen side effect like increased heart beat.
i discovered that the sun increases the burning sensation to a degree some people might find it very unpleasant experience
it is like you have literally set your abdominal area on fire!
so i will be increasing my Taurine dose from 3 MG a day to 5 a day for the increased heart beat
i am so happy that my abdominal area is finally coming down, it is coming down slowly
but better than nothing.

I did some research yesterday and a lot of users were saying you don't get *much* systemic effects from the topical application, with most of it ending up local. Those who were getting some of the sides were running higher dosages.

I've read that 20mcg is a good dose of Clen to add. How much did you add?

hossam
05-19-2015, 10:07 PM
I did some research yesterday and a lot of users were saying you don't get *much* systemic effects from the topical application, with most of it ending up local. Those who were getting some of the sides were running higher dosages.

I've read that 20mcg is a good dose of Clen to add. How much did you add?

i have added 10 drops with the dropper came with the clen, the bottle is
200MCG PER ML X 30ML, so i think i have added about (100 MCG) or slightly less
and the Smolder bottle was already opened and used
the next Smolder bottle i will be adding a correct 1 ML to it or 1.5 ML

Freepressright
05-20-2015, 06:17 AM
i have added 10 drops with the dropper came with the clen, the bottle is
200MCG PER ML X 30ML, so i think i have added about (100 MCG) or slightly less
and the Smolder bottle was already opened and used
the next Smolder bottle i will be adding a correct 1 ML to it or 1.5 ML

From what I was reading, and again I have no experience with this so take it as you will, to ensure you know how much you're getting, you should add the clen to each individual dose. The users were adding 20 to 40 mcg per individual dose, that way they could ensure even distribution throughout the carrier, at least so they knew their dose.

hossam
06-19-2015, 12:10 AM
a quick update:

i have finished a bottle of the Smolder - Clen mix and am running the second bottle from
Dermacut on my arms only and it did show some deference when i started the second bottle
i guess it requires low fat areas to work
for the Smolder Clen bottle it did work a great deal and i noticed it burns more when i just walk in the sun
i will take a rest from it as i felt that my body has adopted to it and to take rest from the Clen
my next Smolder bottle i will run it after a month with T3 & Clen