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William3
05-14-2016, 02:36 PM
Diabetes has became a normal disease to most of people in Asia.What is the reason? How one can prevent it ?

SoCal-Nutrition
05-14-2016, 03:44 PM
William, in general Asians have a low insulin sensitivity (likely caused by generations of diets rich in white rice). This is why it's common for them to remain thin despite poor diets.

For most people, getting fat offers a negative feedback loop that says, I should eat better. For many asians, this never happens. They continue a diet of high sugar/simple carbs (rice)...leading to further insulin resistance.

Avoiding/moderating simple carbs and white rice would be the first step to avoiding issues.

I practically lived in China for 8 years and I know it's nearly impossible to tell anyone there to not eat white rice.

mahatma
06-15-2016, 11:57 AM
William, in general Asians have a low insulin sensitivity (likely caused by generations of diets rich in white rice). This is why it's common for them to remain thin despite poor diets.

For most people, getting fat offers a negative feedback loop that says, I should eat better. For many asians, this never happens. They continue a diet of high sugar/simple carbs (rice)...leading to further insulin resistance.

Avoiding/moderating simple carbs and white rice would be the first step to avoiding issues.

I practically lived in China for 8 years and I know it's nearly impossible to tell anyone there to not eat white rice.

post deleted because I have nothing nice to say. perhaps the info above may be helpful to a type II but when the cause of type I remains unknown how in the world could anyone even suggest a means to prevent it ?

SoCal-Nutrition
06-15-2016, 02:19 PM
We're in a diet and nutrition subforum, and I brought up my thoughts and observations from my experiences in Asia within the scope of diet and nutrition.

Last I read (I have not done a ton of research on this though) Type 1 diabetes was speculated to be a gene mutation, I don't know how to answer a question regarding avoiding gene mutations...no experience there.

I haven't read all the statistics, but there is some data on children with type 1 diabetes (ages 0 to 14).
List of countries by incidence of Type 1 diabetes ages 0 to 14 - Diabetes UK
(https://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/UK-has-worlds-5th-highest-rate-of-Type-1-diabetes-in-children/List-of-countries-by-incidence-of-Type-1-diabetes-ages-0-to-14/)

Looking at China and India (the mass of the population of Asia - and the world), the frequency of type 1 diabetes is significantly lower than much of the world. Per 100,000 children China had .6 with type 1 diabetes. India had a significantly larger number of 4.2 per 100k...but that's significantly lower than Finland (57.6).

Seems this is a hot topic for you, would be interested to see your thoughts on it.

mahatma
06-16-2016, 12:25 PM
We're in a diet and nutrition subforum, and I brought up my thoughts and observations from my experiences in Asia within the scope of diet and nutrition.

Last I read (I have not done a ton of research on this though) Type 1 diabetes was speculated to be a gene mutation, I don't know how to answer a question regarding avoiding gene mutations...no experience there.

I haven't read all the statistics, but there is some data on children with type 1 diabetes (ages 0 to 14).
List of countries by incidence of Type 1 diabetes ages 0 to 14 - Diabetes UK
(https://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/UK-has-worlds-5th-highest-rate-of-Type-1-diabetes-in-children/List-of-countries-by-incidence-of-Type-1-diabetes-ages-0-to-14/)

Looking at China and India (the mass of the population of Asia - and the world), the frequency of type 1 diabetes is significantly lower than much of the world. Per 100,000 children China had .6 with type 1 diabetes. India had a significantly larger number of 4.2 per 100k...but that's significantly lower than Finland (57.6).

Seems this is a hot topic for you, would be interested to see your thoughts on it.

the data is a snapshot from 2011. I think if the reporting of incidences were done via a timeline it would show a steady increase globally. As I understand the cause of diabetes remains a mystery and has no known cure but only treatment at this time.

Any reporting will inevitably have a percentage of error and other calculation anomalies due to how the data was collected.

SoCal-Nutrition
06-16-2016, 03:21 PM
I'm still curious what was it about my post that infuriated you...?

mahatma
06-17-2016, 06:51 AM
I'm still curious what was it about my post that infuriated you...?

THIS: "Avoiding/moderating simple carbs and white rice would be the first step to avoiding issues"

This technique is/can be used to control a persons BG but I see no way that avoiding food is any type of prevention.

This was recently explained to me, do you know what a diabetic should not eat ?

A. Meat
B. Candy
C. Ice cream
D. Cookie
E. Poison

ANS: "E", a diabetic should not eat poison, all other foods can be enjoyed.

Not trying to argue, and I'm not infuriated, your comment(s) are well taken

SoCal-Nutrition
06-17-2016, 09:08 PM
agreed, we should not recommend anyone to eat poison.

you're mixing topics though, there's a difference between managing diabetes and working to avoid it.

mahatma
06-21-2016, 03:19 PM
agreed, we should not recommend anyone to eat poison.

you're mixing topics though, there's a difference between managing diabetes and working to avoid it.

And your proposing a person could avoid diabetes by avoiding certain foods ?

I like the idea of "working to avoid it" however, I still hold firm that food is a non-issue

SoCal-Nutrition
06-21-2016, 04:16 PM
you don't believe that food has the potential to play any role in insulin resistance?

White rice consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes: meta-analysis and systematic review | The BMJ (http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e1454)

mahatma
06-22-2016, 08:04 AM
you don't believe that food has the potential to play any role in insulin resistance?

White rice consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes: meta-analysis and systematic review | The BMJ (http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e1454)

I've become aware of the role food has in insulin resistance, thanks.

It seems we've come full circle on this one again because I have previously wrote that there may be value for Type II.

Ezradavis
10-15-2016, 07:36 AM
Diabetes has became a normal disease in Asia because Asians, especially South Asians, are more likely to have less muscle and more abdominal fat, which increases insulin resistance. For example, even though Indian newborns have a lower average body weight compared to white newborns, Indian newborns have higher levels of body fat and insulin.

It can prevent by :-

1. Get more physical activity
*Lose weight
*Lower your blood sugar
*Boost your sensitivity to insulin — which helps keep your blood sugar within a normal range

2.Get plenty of fiber
*Reduce your risk of diabetes by improving your blood sugar control
*Lower your risk of heart disease
*Promote weight loss by helping you feel full

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