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AntM1564
01-14-2017, 06:15 PM
First, I would like to thank you to the Iron Legion team. I have read great things about these two products and I am beyond excited to stack them and give my honest feedback. I have never used a Iron Legion product and excited I get to run this stack. My goal is to lean bulk. I have not received the products yet, unless they are in my mailbox now, but I wanted to get this up for when I do get the products. My dosing will be Invictus: .5ml AM + .5ml PM Virtus: .5-1ml AM, initially.

Training

I follow a hybrid PPL/PHAT routine. Due to the effects of Laxogenin, I may incorporate more dropsets due to increased recovery.

Sunday - Push Hypertrophy
Monday - Pull Power
Tuesday - Lower Hypertrophy
Wednesday - Off
Thursday - Push Power
Friday - Pull Hypertrophy
Saturday - Lower Power

Diet

I carb cycle. I have two high days, two moderate days and three low days. I will post my daily diet so you can see macro breakdown and calorie breakdown. In addition, if I do not gain weight in a particular week, I increase each day by 25 cals, but adding 6 grams of carbs to each day.

Other Supplements

Orange Triad
Zinc
Magnesium
OxiOmega
NOW Vitamin D 5,000 IU
NOW Vitamin C 1,000
PowerMax XT
Various Pre workouts, only stims 3 days per week and non stim 3 days. Depending on how heavy my heavy days are, I will consume a product higher in stims
PES Select (no more than 1 scoop per day)
LCLT
Alpha GPC,
L Tyrosine
Beta Alannine

My expectations

A drying effect
Increase in strength and body comp

somm
01-14-2017, 09:13 PM
Looking forward to keeping up with your log! I'm curious to see how well these two supps work! (Invictus and Virtus)

AntM1564
01-15-2017, 07:00 PM
January 15, 2017
Push Hypertrophy

Weight - 155.6

Weight is the same from last week. I am going to increase calories by 25 each day, in the form of carbs. I am also beginning a stack of Iron Legion Invictus and Virtus today.

Today's session was surprisingly good. I say that because my chest was a touch sore from Thursday. I hardly ever get DOMS in my chest, especially DOMS that lasts several days. Don't know what it was, but it didn't influence me, at least I don't believe it did. I also did not feel any tightness in my shoulder again! I think it is due to getting rid of behind the neck presses, an addition to my warmup and a new a new stretch I am doing post workout. Again, like last Sunday, I had a very good pump compared to the previous month or so on this particular day. I think it is because my pre workout meal is closer to training.

Tomorrow will be interesting with how my legs feel and I have a 9x1 on deadlifts.

Training

Incline Smith/Flat DB Press

Incline - 120x10,10,10 (does not include weight of the bar)
Flat - 65x10,10

Seated Smith Shoulder Press

85x10,10,10,10

Weight does not include the bar, just plates

Incline Hammerstrength Chest Press

145x10,10
140x10

Incline Skull Crushers

70x10,10,10

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

140x12,10,10

Straight Bar Cable Pressdown

44x10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb Day

Cals - 3,075
Carbs - 408g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 64g

Sat. - 25g
Poly. - 8g
Mono. - 12g


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Initial thoughts:

The products do not smell that great. i wish they were odorless. I would suggest putting something on the mask the scent. Application is easy. I tried two different methods. One, I put the liquid on my hand and rubbed it on the area. The other way I tried was to slowly drip the liquid on the application site and rub it in that way. I think I prefer putting it on my hand first. Also, I think this would be a lot easier to apply if the liquid was not water like and more of a cream or gel. Lastly, I noticed that this leaves your hands looking greasy, make sure to run them under water after.

AntM1564
01-16-2017, 07:37 PM
January 16, 2017
Pull Power

Today was a killer workout. Had a 9x1 going on. If you're new to my log, I programmed two 9x1 sessions, but not going for a PR. After the second 9x1, I take a deload week than attempt a new PR. My goal on the 9x1 days are to get as close to my PR as possible. My PR the deadlift is 440. I hit 435. It was an extreme grinder. I think I hitched it a little, but I'll count it. Getting to knee level was not hard, but the lockout was killer. I thought one of a few things would happen; one, I would need to drop it, two, my head was going to pop like a pimple or three, I was going to poop my pants! In 5 weeks, my next 9x1, I am going to stick with 435, since I don't want to set a new PR, but I am going to see if it goes up easier. The workup sets will be the same. I will also try to hit some higher weight on the way down.

Everything else progressed with weight or reps. I did weighed pullups, despite being the same weight. For was great, this shows me I am getting stronger. Normally, when I do this weighted, I lack on the contraction; I do not pull myself up high enough. That was not the case here. My hamstrings are dead now. Tomorrow will be interesting.

Ome other thing worth noting. I changed my pre workout meal, on this day, last week. Today, instead of swwet potatoes, I had white rice. Today was the first deadlift day in a long time which I did not feel like I was going to puke during any set. I may stick with white rice from now on pre workout on this day.

Training

Deadlift 9x1 @ 90%-99% of 1RM (396 - 339 lbs)

405x1
415x1
425x1
435x1
415x1
415x1
415x1
415x1
415x1

Rack Pulls

370x5,5,5

Knee level

Weighted Wide Grip Pullups

2.5x6,6,6

Close Grip Neutral Grip Pulldowns

120x7,7,7

Wide Grip Neutral Pulldowns

120x8,7
122.5x6

Neutral Grip Seated Cable Row

120x7,7,7

Reverse Pec Deck

145x6,6,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,575
Carbs - 265g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 77g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 11g
Mono. - 11g

Maxout777
01-16-2017, 08:22 PM
Definitely going to be following this. Looking into possibly doing an Invictus run of my own.

AntM1564
01-17-2017, 06:54 PM
January 17, 2017
Legs Hypertrophy

Training.

Reverse Hammerstrength V Squat

260x10,10,10,10,11

Leg Press

470x10,10,10,10

Seated Hamstring Curl

160x15,11,11

Lying Hamstring Curl

90x11,10,10

Leg Extensions

145x12,11,10,10,10.

Seated Calf Raises

120x12,11,11,10,10

Standing Calf Raises

195x12,11,11,11,11

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,825
Carbs - 334g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 71g

Sat. - 18g
Poly. - 10g
Mono. - 16g


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Definitely going to be following this. Looking into possibly doing an Invictus run of my own.

Welcome aboard!

AntM1564
01-19-2017, 07:09 PM
January 19, 2017
Push Power

Very happy with the session today. My last 9x1, I hit 220 on flat bench, only 5 pounds off my PR. When I attempted 230 about 4 or 5 weeks ago I failed. I was feeling good today. I was planning on one set at 220. I got it, it was tough, but still smooth. I decided to go for 225. I asked for a guy to watch me. He helped me stabilize the weight at the sticky point since I was shaking a little, but I got it. I would say I could have gotten it. I think that shows progress since I was only doing small jumps. I also did 10 sets since he helped me a tad.

I also hit heavier weight on the way down. I did 4 sets on decline close grip because someone asked me for a spot and I rested way longer than anticipated.

Training

Flat Bench Press 9x1 @ 90%-10% of 1RM (203-225 pounds)

205x1
210x1
215x1
220x1
225x1*
220x1
220x1
215x1
215x1
215x1

Military Press

120x5,5,5

Decline Close Grip Bench Press

160x8,7,7

Incline Bench Press

150x7,6,6

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

180x7,6,6

Weighted Dips

60x8,7,6

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,825
Carbs - 334g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 71g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 10g
Mono. - 16g

AntM1564
01-20-2017, 06:50 PM
January 20, 2017
Pull Hypertrophy

Training

Lat Pulldowns

105x10,10,10,10,10

Close Grip Seated Cable Row

105x10,10,10,10

T Bar Row (overhand grip)

65x12,11,11

Semi Close Grip Pulldown (neutral grip)

117.5x12,11,10

Underhand Grip Machine Row

135x11,11,10

Hoist Roc It Pulldown

105x10,10,10

2 second pause at the bottom

Reverse Pec Deck

110x12
115x10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb

Cals - 3,075
Carbs - 408g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 64g

Sat. - 19g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 11g

AntM1564
01-21-2017, 12:43 PM
January 21, 2017
Lower Power

I'm going to do something a little different on the posts for my heavy days, instead of describing what I did the last time I hit that same rep range, I am going to quote it.

Today felt awesome. As you can see, I improved greatly from my last 9x1. I was really happy with depth, form and my negative speed. Everything from my quads, hamstrings and glutes felt like they were firing. For reference, my PR is 335. When I say I was happy with my form, what I am referring to is keeping my chest up. I only felt one set where my chest did not stay up, which led me to lean forward too much. It was the last 320 set.

Last 9x1 (12/3/16)



295x1
300x1
305x1
315x1
320x1
330x1
315x1
315x1
315x1

Training

Back Squat 9x1 @ 90%-100% of 1RM (297-335 lbs)

300x1
310x1
320x1
330x1
330x1
320x1
320x1
320x1
315x1

Pause Squats

205x5,5,5

Hip Thrust

260x8,7,6

Leg Press

540x7,6,6

Lying Leg Curls

125x8,6,6

Seated Calf Machine

170x7,6,6,6,6

Standing Calf Machine

260x8,8,7,7,7

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,575
Carbs - 265g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 79g

Sat. - 18g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 11g

Cdsnuts
01-21-2017, 02:31 PM
January 15, 2017
Push Hypertrophy

Weight - 155.6

Weight is the same from last week. I am going to increase calories by 25 each day, in the form of carbs. I am also beginning a stack of Iron Legion Invictus and Virtus today.

Today's session was surprisingly good. I say that because my chest was a touch sore from Thursday. I hardly ever get DOMS in my chest, especially DOMS that lasts several days. Don't know what it was, but it didn't influence me, at least I don't believe it did. I also did not feel any tightness in my shoulder again! I think it is due to getting rid of behind the neck presses, an addition to my warmup and a new a new stretch I am doing post workout. Again, like last Sunday, I had a very good pump compared to the previous month or so on this particular day. I think it is because my pre workout meal is closer to training.

Tomorrow will be interesting with how my legs feel and I have a 9x1 on deadlifts.

Training

Incline Smith/Flat DB Press

Incline - 120x10,10,10 (does not include weight of the bar)
Flat - 65x10,10

Seated Smith Shoulder Press

85x10,10,10,10

Weight does not include the bar, just plates

Incline Hammerstrength Chest Press

145x10,10
140x10

Incline Skull Crushers

70x10,10,10

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

140x12,10,10

Straight Bar Cable Pressdown

44x10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb Day

Cals - 3,075
Carbs - 408g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 64g

Sat. - 25g
Poly. - 8g
Mono. - 12g


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Initial thoughts:

The products do not smell that great. i wish they were odorless. I would suggest putting something on the mask the scent. Application is easy. I tried two different methods. One, I put the liquid on my hand and rubbed it on the area. The other way I tried was to slowly drip the liquid on the application site and rub it in that way. I think I prefer putting it on my hand first. Also, I think this would be a lot easier to apply if the liquid was not water like and more of a cream or gel. Lastly, I noticed that this leaves your hands looking greasy, make sure to run them under water after.

You don't find working shoulders on the same day as chest negatively effects your chest workout?

Maxout777
01-21-2017, 07:59 PM
You don't find working shoulders on the same day as chest negatively effects your chest workout?

FWIW, I've always done the same. Never really had any problem with chest workouts and always felt like they are some of my best lifts (even with my long ass arms).

AntM1564
01-22-2017, 06:44 PM
January 22, 2017
Push Hypertrophy

Weight - 154.4

Weight is the down 1.2 pounds from last week. This may be a little misleading though since I used the bathroom more during the night (use your imagination). I am still going to increase my calories though by 25 each day, in the form of carbs.

Training went very well today, but the day as a whole was meh. I wanted to play my PS4 since I barely get to and usually only can on weekend, on a limited basis, and days off from school. I started a new game yesterday and wanted to play it some today, but everything went to hell after the gym. For some reason, my phone was constantly restarting when I launched some apps. By the time I got to the cell phone store (which moved locations, but I did not know) and I figured out what was going on, the day was shot. I had some factory reset the phone and now I need to put all my apps back on it.

Today has marked one week since I started the Virtus and Invictus stack. Here are my notes thus far. I really do not like the smell of the products, but in the end, if they work well, I can see past that. Application is very easy, I just dislike how greasy your hands get from the liquid. Again, not a big deal though. I don't know if it is the way I squeeze the dropper or what, but I always measure out .5ml, my desired amount, every single time. That is very convenient. Regarding what I have noticed, two nights last week, Wednesday and Thursday, I woke up erected two or three times during the night. Rarely do I wake up once or more with an erection. I have not had one since Thursday though, waking up with one that is. Recovery seems a tad better, I will focus on this during the week. I also notice a new vein, one that I have never seen before. It was in my side of my left lower/mid pec. This was first thing in the morning, no food or water, so that was cool.

Training

Incline Smith/Flat DB Press

Incline - 130x8,8,8 (does not include weight of the bar)
Flat - 70x8,8,8

Seated Smith Shoulder Press

90x8,8,8,8

Weight does not include the bar, just plates

Incline Hammerstrength Chest Press

145x10,10,10

Incline Skull Crushers

70x11,10,10

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

150x10,10,10

Straight Bar Cable Pressdown

44x12,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb Day

Cals - 3,100
Carbs - 414g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 63g

Sat. - 24g
Poly. - 8g
Mono. - 12g


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You don't find working shoulders on the same day as chest negatively effects your chest workout?

No. Ever since I started following a push, pull, leg routine, my body has gotten used to it. Could I moved a little more weight, perhaps. But it doesn't affect the other group too much. Plus, volume is low since I hit the muscles 2x per week.

moleculargainz
01-22-2017, 06:54 PM
In for this log! Whenever I use their transdermals I apply the liquid and rub it around with the tip of the dropper then use my forearms to mix in the rest. This works very well for me and I don't have to worry about any of it being wasted from washing it off. Looking forward to seeing how these products treat you!

AntM1564
01-23-2017, 07:20 PM
January 23, 2017
Pull Power

Pretty good session today. I will post my last 5x5 below this. I wanted to go for a 7th rep on the 355 set, but I did not want to strain too much. I can't exactly remember, but I feel like the 6 reps today were smoother than last time. Warmups felt great, as soon as I hit that 315 set, that is when my hamstrings said, we're not ready! Everything else went smoothly. I saw some small increases from last week. My lower back was a tad tight after the rack pulls. I think it was from over extending on the lockout on deads and rack pulls. I have a bad habit of doing that.

I'm also looking for some suggestions here. Last week, my meals leading up to the pre workout meal were the same as today, but the pre workout meal was different and I did not have as much time last week to digest compared to this week. With that said, last week, with less time between my meal and lifting, I felt fine versus today, I felt like I was going to puke. This is a common theme when I do not deadlift fasted.

My carb source last week was white rice and this week, sweet potatoes. My pre workout meal during the week is the same since I have it at work, 225 grams of greek yogurt, 150 grams of strawberries and sweet potatoes (amount varies on the day, but today was only 215 grams) and this was 2 hour before lifting.

Here are some options I am thinking about, let me know what you might try:

1 - Keep everything the same, but swap out the sweet potatoes for rice
2 - Keep everything the same, but eat my lunch earlier, then have a protein shake when I would normally have my lunch. Usually my second "meal" is just a shake, but I could swap those.
3 - Keep meal one and two the same, but when I have lunch, have a protein bar with some fruit.

Last 5x5 12/19/16


315x5
325x5
335x5
345x5
355x6

Training

Deadlift 5x5 @ 90%-99% of 1RM (308 - 352 lbs)

315x5
325x5
335x5
345x5
355x6

Rack Pulls

380x3,3,3,3,4

Knee level

Weighted Wide Grip Pullups

2.5x7,7,6

Close Grip Neutral Grip Pulldowns

120x8,7
122.5x6

Wide Grip Neutral Pulldowns

122.5x7,7,6

Neutral Grip Seated Cable Row

120x7,7,7

Reverse Pec Deck

145x7,7,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,600
Carbs - 271g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 227g
Fat - 76g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 11g
Mono. - 11g

AntM1564
01-24-2017, 06:49 PM
January 24, 2017
Legs Hypertrophy

Training.

Reverse Hammerstrength V Squat

270x8,8,8,8,8,8

Leg Press

500x8,8,8,8

Seated Hamstring Curl

180x11,10,10

Lying Hamstring Curl

90x12,10,10

Leg Extensions

145x12,12,11,10,10.

Seated Calf Raises

120x12,12,11,11,11

Standing Calf Raises

200x12,11,10,10,10

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,850
Carbs - 340g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 70g

Sat. - 17g
Poly. - 12g
Mono. - 19g

tallstraw
01-24-2017, 08:42 PM
Wait what? A 215 bench press max..but a 440 deadlift max? I have never seen a disparity like that lmfao..you're like the opposite of everyday is chest day kind of lifter.

Good for you man

AntM1564
01-26-2017, 07:20 PM
January 26, 2017
Push Power

Not happy with the session today, although I was able to get more reps or go heavier than last week. As you can see, I did not go as heavy as I did on my previous 5x5, but like I said about a week ago, I wanted to stick within the prescribed percentages. I felt like the 180 didn't move as fast, but I did rest less between sets. Also, like I said, everything else increased in one way or another, so maybe it not moving as fast was just in my head.

I am also going to reduce the dosing on Virtus starting tomorrow to only .5 ml per day. I have been noticing more acne and lethargy, which could be signs of E/cortisol being too low.

Last 5x5 12/22/16


160x5
170x5
180x5
190x5
190x5

Training

Flat Bench Press 5x5 @ 70%-80% of 1RM (158-180 pounds)

160x5
170x5
180x5
180x5
180x5

Military Press

130x3,3,3,3,3

Decline Close Grip Bench Press

165x6,6,6

Incline Bench Press

150x8,7,6

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

180x7,7,6

Weighted Dips

65x6,6,6

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,850
Carbs - 340g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 70g

Sat. - 18g
Poly. - 11g
Mono. - 18g


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Wait what? A 215 bench press max..but a 440 deadlift max? I have never seen a disparity like that lmfao..you're like the opposite of everyday is chest day kind of lifter.

Good for you man

My max is 225. Part of it is I have always been a weak presser. Second part is, I had a heart transplant some years back. Pressing has been weaker since.

tallstraw
01-26-2017, 11:41 PM
Deadlifting doesn't put strain on your heart like bench pressing does?

I'm not doubting you, just not understanding how they aren't related. I thought they would both be affected.

Regardless, not taking anything away from ya. Good numbers man.

AntM1564
01-27-2017, 07:13 PM
January 27, 2017
Pull Hypertrophy

I only dosed Virtus at .5 ml today. I felt a lot better, not nearly as lethargic. Is that due to less dosing, no, because it wasn't even a full day. I think yesterday felt off for me since Wednesday are low carb days (where I do not consume any startchy and go no more than 100 grams total). I am still going to dose at .5 ml and see how it goes.

Today felt fairly easy with the workout. Everything felt a little lighter than I was expecting. Overall, it was a very good session.

Training

Lat Pulldowns

107.5x8,8,8
110x8,8,8

Close Grip Seated Cable Row

107.5x8,8,8,8

T Bar Row (overhand grip)

70x11,10,10

Semi Close Grip Pulldown (neutral grip)

120x10,10,10

Underhand Grip Machine Row

135x11,11,11

Underhand Close Grip Pulldown

85x11
95x10,10

Reverse Pec Deck

120x11,10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb

Cals - 3,100
Carbs - 414g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 65g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 12g
Mono. - 14g


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Deadlifting doesn't put strain on your heart like bench pressing does?

I'm not doubting you, just not understanding how they aren't related. I thought they would both be affected.

Regardless, not taking anything away from ya. Good numbers man.

There is no strain with anything. I just think cutting my chest cavity in half has diminished my chest pressing movements!

Also, I was always a fat kid, not anymore though. My lower body has always been my strong point, probably due to being fat. That is probably why my deadlift and squat are way better than my bench.

AntM1564
01-28-2017, 04:47 PM
January 28, 2017
Lower Power

Very happy with the session today. I wanted to hit 7 reps on the last set of squats, but on the 5th rep, I had a major butt wink and surprised I was able to recover. It took a lot out of me to recover from it. Everything else improved either weight wise or rep wise. I did 4 sets on leg press because I felt as though I did not go deep enough on the first set.

I will be giving a full update on Virtus and Invictus tomorrow.

Last 5x5 12/24/16


235x5
245x5
255x5
265x5
280x5

Training

Back Squat 5x5 @ 70%-80% of 1RM (231-264 lbs)

235x5
245x5
255x5
265x5
265x6

Pause Squats

215x3,3,3,3
220x3

Hip Thrust

265x7,6,6

Leg Press

540x7,7,6,6

Lying Leg Curls

130x6,6
125x6

Seated Calf Machine

170x7,7,7,6,6

Standing Calf Machine

270x7x6,6,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,600
Carbs - 270g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 227g
Fat - 80g

Sat. - 18g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 11g

AntM1564
01-29-2017, 03:21 PM
January 29, 2017
Push Hypertrophy

Weight - 154.4

Weight is unchanged from last week. I will increase calories again this week.

Training was very good today. I had a great pump and everything improved. This was probably my best chest/tricep/shoulder pump in a VERY long time.

Training

Incline Smith/Flat DB Press

Incline - 140x6,6,6 145x6 (does not include weight of the bar)
Flat - 75x6,6,6

Seated Smith Shoulder Press

100x6,6,6,6

Weight does not include the bar, just plates

Incline Hammerstrength Chest Press

145x11,10,10

Incline Skull Crushers

70x11,11,10

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

150x11,10,10

Straight Bar Cable Pressdown

44x13,11,10

Nutrition

High Carb Day

Cals - 3,125
Carbs - 420g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 62g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 13g

AntM1564
01-30-2017, 06:59 PM
January 30, 2017
Pull Power

Solid session today. Desdlifts went very well. I prefer what I did today to my last 6x4, see below.

Last 6x4 12/27/16


330x4
340x4
350x4
360x4
370x4
375x4

Training

Deadlift 5x5 @ 75%-85% of 1RM (330 - 374 lbs)

330x4
345x4
360x4
375x4
375x4
370x4

Rack Pulls

395x2,2,2,2,2,2

Knee level

Weighted Wide Grip Pullups

2.5x7,7,7

Close Grip Neutral Grip Pulldowns

122.5x7,7,6

Wide Grip Neutral Pulldowns

122.5x7,7,7

Neutral Grip Seated Cable Row

120x8,7,7

Reverse Pec Deck

145x7,6,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,625
Carbs - 277g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 227g
Fat - 80g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 12g
Mono. - 12g

AntM1564
01-31-2017, 06:47 PM
January 31, 2017
Legs Hypertrophy

Very happy with the session today. My tempo on everything was great.

Training.

Reverse Hammerstrength V Squat

295x6,6,6,6,6,6,6

Leg Press

520x6,6,6,6

Seated Hamstring Curl

180x12,10,10

Lying Hamstring Curl

90x12,11,10

Leg Extensions

145x12,12,11,10,10.

Seated Calf Raises

125x10,10,10,10,10

Standing Calf Raises

200x12,11,11,10,10

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,875
Carbs - 346g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 72g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 13g
Mono. - 19g

AntM1564
01-31-2017, 06:50 PM
I'm surprised I haven't noticed much of a drying effect yet from Virtus. Also, I would really suggest making this a cream. gel, or making the liquid thicker.

AntM1564
02-02-2017, 07:23 PM
February 2, 2017
Push Power

Good session today. I saw some improvements on certain exercises and other stayed the same. Bench went better than my last 6x4. Like I said, I wanted to stick more in my percentage range. Last 6x4, as you can see, I went a little out of it, today, I stayed in it. I did not have to rest as long and even though I did not hit the same max weight, the fact I hit 190 for all those sets, is better, IMO.

Last 6x4 12/29/16


170x4
180x4
190x4
195x4
185x4
185x4

Training

Flat Bench Press 6x4 @ 70%-80% of 1RM (169-191 pounds)

170x4
180x4
190x4
190x4
190x4
190x4

Military Press

135x2,2,2,2,2,2

Decline Close Grip Bench Press

165x6,6,6

Incline Bench Press

155x6,6,6

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

180x7,7,7

Weighted Dips

65x7,6,6

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,875
Carbs - 346g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 72g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 13g
Mono. - 19g

AntM1564
02-03-2017, 06:51 PM
February 3, 2017
Pull Hypertrophy

Great session today. I had such a great pump in my back. I went lighter on the reverse pac deck to make sure my tempo was good and to ensure I was getting a full contraction. My temp on everything was spot on today. I did Yates Rows on my make shit TBar row and that was on heck of a movement.

Training

Lat Pulldowns

112.5x6,6,6,6
115x6,6,7

Close Grip Seated Cable Row

115x6,6,6,7

T Bar Row (overhand grip)

70x12,11,11

Semi Close Grip Pulldown (neutral grip)

120x11,10,10

T Bar Row (underhand grip)

50x10,10,10

Underhand Close Grip Pulldown

95x10,10,10

Reverse Pec Deck

105x11,10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb

Cals - 3,125
Carbs - 420g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 226g
Fat - 62g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 9g
Mono. - 12g

AntM1564
02-04-2017, 05:11 PM
February 4, 2017
Lower Power

Extremely good workout today. I stayed within my weight range, compared to last 6x4. I also hit that top weight for a total of more sets. Despite not going as heavy, I think this was more productive.

Last 6x4 12/31/16



250x4
260x4
270x4
275x4
290x4
285x4

Training

Back Squat 6x4 @ 75%-85% of 1RM (248-281 lbs)

250x4
265x4
280x4
280x4
280x4
280x5

Pause Squats

225x2,2,2,2,2,3

Hip Thrust

265x7,6,6

Leg Press

540x7,7,6

Lying Leg Curls

130x7,6,6

Seated Calf Machine

170x8,7,7,7,7

Standing Calf Machine

270x8,7,7,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,625
Carbs - 277g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 225g
Fat - 80g

Sat. - 18g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 11g

AntM1564
02-05-2017, 03:58 PM
February 5, 2017
Push Hypertrophy

Weight - 155?

Happy Super Bowl Sunday!

Yes, there is a question mark next to my weight. I woke up this morning, used the bathroom, got on the scale and it was at 154.4. It was odd because it went straight to that number versus fluctuating for a moment. I moved the scale about a half of an inch and it went to 155. That is the weight I am going with.

However, about 30 minutes later, I got to my part time job and I really went to the bathroom. If my real weight was 155, it was probably 154.4 after that and if it is really 154.4, it is lower than that. Now with all that in mind, I am going to increase calories.

Training

Incline Smith/Flat DB Press

Incline - 120-x12,12 (does not include weight of the bar)
Flat - 65x12, 55x12

Seated Smith Shoulder Press

75x12,12,12,12

Weight does not include the bar, just plates

Incline Hammerstrength Chest Press

145x11,11,10

Incline Skull Crushers

70x11,11,10

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

150x11,10,10

Straight Bar Cable Pressdown

45.5x10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb Day

Cals - 3,150
Carbs - 420g

Fiber - 49g

Protein - 231g
Fat - 60g

Sat. - 22g
Poly. - 6g
Mono. - 10g

AntM1564
02-06-2017, 07:03 PM
February 6, 2017
Pull Power

Great session today, especially compared to my last 7x3. My last two sets felt like they were over 400 pounds. I wanted to stay as close to 390 as possible. Overall, today I felt like my sense of well being was better. Maybe due to this stack?

Last 7x3 1/2/17


350x3
360x3
370x3
380x3
385x3
395x3
380x3

Training

Deadlift 7x3 @ 80%-90% of 1RM (352 - 396 lbs)

355x3
370x3
385x3
395x3
395x3
385x3
385x3

Rack Pulls

365x5,5,5,5,5

Knee level

Weighted Wide Grip Pullups

2.5x7,7,7

Neutral Grip Seated Cable Row

120x7,6,6

Close Grip Neutral Grip Pulldowns

122.5x7,7,7

Wide Grip Neutral Pulldowns

122.5x7,7,7

Reverse Pec Deck

125x6,6,6,6

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,650
Carbs - 277g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 231g
Fat - 77g

Sat. - 22g
Poly. - 16g
Mono. - 16g

AntM1564
02-07-2017, 07:04 PM
February 7, 2017
Legs Hypertrophy

Small improvements over last weeks session.

Thursday is not looking too promising as far as training goes. I will be able to get to the gym, but the timing is going to suck. There is 6-10 inches of snow forecasted, as of now. I will train first thing in the AM, fasted, to prevent getting there too late, in case they close early. Yes, I do train legs heavy fasted, but the previous day is a high carb day. I will be coming off a low carb day which I consume no starch. I will make the best of it. I will see what time I wake up and look at the forecast. Maybe it won't be too bad and I can sneak one carb meal in.

This is assuming school will be closed, which it probably will be.

Training.

Reverse Hammerstrength V Squat

255x12,12,12,12

Leg Press

430x12,12,12,12

Seated Hamstring Curl

180x12,11,10

Lying Hamstring Curl

90x13,11,10

Leg Extensions

145x12,12,11,10,10.

Seated Calf Raises

125x11,10,10,10,10

Standing Calf Raises

200x12,12,11,11,10

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,900
Carbs - 346g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 231g
Fat - 70g

Sat. - 20g
Poly. - 12g
Mono. - 18g

AntM1564
02-09-2017, 07:09 PM
February 9, 2017
Push Power

It is extremely hard to judge today's workout. To make a long story short, I did not go fasted today. I went to the gym in the afternoon since the snow was clearing up then. I had to dig my way out, we got about a foot. I went out and shoveled twice before my plow guy came. I was dead from shoveling, trying to keep up with snow falling at 1-3 inches per hour. Also, by the time I got to the gym, I had to rush. Once I got there, they decided they were going to close early, which made no sense. They were open during the heaviest part of the storm, but closing once the snow came to an end. I ended up going lighter on all my secondary movements because I wanted to control the weights more on the negative portion of the lift.

Due to shoveling, feeling rushed, doing rest pause sets and going lighter, it is hard to judge today's session in terms of how well it went.

I did two or three extra sets on bench because of my two failure sets and then I had to rest pause on the least set of military press today.

Last 7x3 1/5/17


175x3
185x3
195x3
205x3
200x3
195x3
195x3

Training

Flat Bench Press 7x3 @ 80%-90% of 1RM (180-203 pounds)

180x3
190x3
200x3
205x2
195x3
195x3
195x3
200x2
190x3

Military Press

120x5
115x5,5,5,4 + 2 rest pause

Decline Close Grip Bench Press

155x6,6,6

Incline Bench Press

140x7,6,6

Seated Hammerstrength Shoulder Press

140x6,6,6

Weighted Dips

45x6,6,6

Nutrition

Moderate Carb

Cals - 2,900
Carbs - 346g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 231g
Fat - 70g

Sat. - 21g
Poly. - 11g
Mono. - 18g

AntM1564
02-10-2017, 07:06 PM
February 10, 2017
Pull Hypertrophy

Ugh. More snow this weekend. Hopefully I won't have to dig out prior to legs in the AM.

Training

Lat Pulldowns

100x12,12,12,12

Close Grip Seated Cable Row

102.5x12,12
100x10,10

T Bar Row (overhand grip)

75x10,101,10

Semi Close Grip Pulldown (neutral grip)

120x11,11,10

T Bar Row (underhand grip)

55x10,11,10

Underhand Close Grip Pulldown

95x10,10,10

Reverse Pec Deck

105x11,10,10,10

Nutrition

High Carb

Cals - 3,150
Carbs - 420g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 231g
Fat - 64g

Sat. - 23g
Poly. - 10g
Mono. - 13g


- - - Updated - - -

Final review coming Sunday.

AntM1564
02-11-2017, 05:03 PM
February 11, 2017
Lower Power

Somewhat pleased with the session today. I am pleased with how many sets I hit 290+ for. I did 8 sets because I felt like the second and third rep on 300 wasn't low enough. I know it was, but not for my standard. I am going to go a little lighter on most things tomorrow to really focus on the contraction and tempo.

Last 7x3 1/7/17



265x3
275x3
285x3
295x3
300x3
290x3
280x3

Training

Back Squat 7x3 @ 80%-90% of 1RM (264-297 lbs)

265x3
280x3
290x3
300x3
295x3
295x3
295x3
275x3

Pause Squats

200x5,5,5,5,5

Hip Thrust

265x7,7,6

Leg Press

540x7,6,6

Lying Leg Curls

130x7,6,6

Seated Calf Machine

170x8,8,7,7,7

Standing Calf Machine

270x8,7,7,7,7

Nutrition

Low Carb

Cals - 2,650
Carbs - 277g

Fiber - 50g

Protein - 230g
Fat - 79g

Sat. - 19g
Poly. - 7g
Mono. - 11g

AntM1564
02-12-2017, 03:33 PM
Final Review

Application - Pretty easy to apply and it dries quickly, but I personally ran into some problems. First, Make sure you apply directly after squeezing the liquid into your hands, or at least keep a steady hand. This is very watery and can easily get in between your fingers, which means less of the liquid getting onto the application site. Another problem I experienced at first was losing the liquid. i will preference this by saying I do have smaller hands. The problem I ran into, initially, was when I tried to apply the product too quickly, it is almost as though I flicked some of it and I could hear some of the liquid hit the ground. Again, not a big issue, but can cause some problems. Do not think this is a product you can apply very quickly. The liquid is just like water so you have to be somewhat conciseness of the product. If this was thicker like a gel, there would be zero problems. Additionally, make sure you wash your hands after, the product makes your hands pretty greasy.

Weight - During the 28 days, weight dropped by .6 pounds, despite increasing my caloric intake. I do think this is a positive sign as it shows a recomp, I will dive into this next.

Strength - Nothing excessive and honestly, my strength probably went up a touch more than it would have without the product. There are definitely better alternatives for natural products in terms of strength gains, specifically ArA and ECDY. This aspect was pretty disappointing.

Body composition - A slight improvement. I will take it though. I feel as though my chest is fuller than pre cycle.

Appetite - Appetite was definitely increased. I would wake up hungry, almost daily, which is odd. I train in the evening and have two meals at night, they are roughly a total of 2,000 cals give or take, about 5 hours pre bed. I could also hear and feel my stomach growling at random times throughout the day.

Drying Effect - Pretty disappointed with this as well. I thought I would see more of an effect from Virtus in this regard. I saw a slight drying effect, but I get way more from 75 mg of Arimistane. I am surprised though, given the strength of Virtus. When I was dosing 1 ml daily, I felt somewhat ran down and lethargic. Additionally, I would wake up fatigued, probably from the evening dose. When I reduced to .5 ml daily, that is when those negative sides went away. Maybe it needs to be ran at 1 ml daily for maximum drying effects, but I could not run it long enough at that dose to tell.

Libido - I had a pretty good boost in libido. I had more morning wood than I normally have. It was not consistent throughout the cycle, but it was noticeable for a good portion of it.

Recovery - No improvement here. Actually, my recovery was a little lower than it would normally be.

Final Thoughts - All in all, given my experience and taking everything into consideration, including price, I do think there are better options out there. I could also be a non-responder to the product. I was expecting more in the areas of strength, drying effect and strength. I was running cals sightly above maintenance, maybe this stack is better at a higher surplus. I know it was only a four week run and anything natural should be ran for eight weeks for maximal benefits, but I thought I would still see more. This stack was not horrible, but it was about average in terms of supplements. Given that, and the price to run these two products together, there are definitely several better options out there. One could look at single products or stacking products that replicate and surpass these results that are not as heavy on the wallet weight. 3/5

somm
02-12-2017, 08:21 PM
Thanks for doing the log!

delsolrob
02-22-2017, 02:49 PM
Yes, thank you for the log!

This is a tricky realm when there's not a calorie deficit, it's really hard to make Invictus shine. One of it's main purposes is to help manage cortisol to aid in fat loss...one of the main roadblocks of calorie restrictions and low carb diets is it's impact on cortisol. So, for Invictus, this really wasn't within it's primary use case for fat loss.

Pretty much the same for Virtus, it should have helped dry you out. But, like you said, it's difficult to judge the impact of an AI in just 4 weeks.

for a leaning stack, these have been consistently effective...and this is how we have been marketing it.