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ahmed wolf
03-03-2017, 05:27 AM
all iam asking is
can I start the program with out the herbs ? i cant buy them we dont have visa here
like I mentioned before i have a high testosterone high dht levels so are they going to do anything for me?
do i need to feast? cuz i have been eating healthy for the last 10 years also never smoked or driked ever so what am I cleaning really?
my only issue is ed that keeps bothering me and self regret of taking that shit that i was scared of taking for 2 years am i imagining things or i am permanently wrecked like those rare cases in propeciahelp should just save for a peins trasplant or a bionc peins if they cure ed or just cripple myself and live happy cuz it will make seance i will get ed cuz i am a crippeld

Snell1234
03-03-2017, 06:13 AM
I guess the answer to your questions to be blunt are that the program is there for you and you have to commit and do it all, otherwise don't bother.

That comment definitely applies to the fast / feast part. Without doing the cleanse, you are missing the major part of the program. I dare say that is far more important than the herbs. I believe English who recovered didn't use the herbs too much so my advice would be to get on the program and just skip the herb part if you are unable to get them.

ahmed wolf
03-03-2017, 06:40 AM
u didn't understand me what can the protocol offer me if i am already living healthy? what am I cleansing really? egg whites and chicken breasts fruits and vegetables i have been eating for the past 10 year? how can feast on water and juice foe 2 weeks help my ed? for the record i took fin for 3 days

Snell1234
03-03-2017, 08:02 AM
Toxins and other things that we are exposed to from day to day life build up as far as I know.

The feast is meant to cleanse the system before you build it up to be stronger than it was. You might not think you need it but we all probably need to cleanse every now and then, especially if we are running into issues.

Cdnuts will be able to explain this better than I am able to.

Atticas
03-03-2017, 10:09 AM
I think another reason why people are hesitant to help you here is because you're not even attempting our advice at all.

One user told you the best thing you could do was to leave these forums for a few days and not worry about it, and I even told you myself you don't sound like you have PFS at all based off your story, but yet pretty much everyday we still see you here posting horrified sounding posts, telling us you keep reading about side effects.

Again, based off your story, you sound like you just spank the monkey too damn often and you've probably given yourself a form of porn-induced erectile dysfunction (PIED), which is unrelated to PFS but then again with you taking Finasteride and worrying this much about its effects, your probably attributing even more stress to your brain-dick connection and causing further problems.

Look man, leave these forums for like a week or 2. Take some cold showers. Don't masturbate the entire time. Continue living healthy. Do some squats and other things that raise testosterone.

If you still feel you think you have something extra going on, come back and comment again. But literally one of the worst things you could be doing to yourself (besides going to watch more porn and fapping to it) is reading horror stories of people who actually have PFS and worrying whether you gave it to yourself or not.

ahmed wolf
03-03-2017, 12:19 PM
first of all
I don't masterbate 2-3 times a day since i only masterbate 1 every other day ir every 2 days thats mean 3-4 times a week also i am not a porn freak it takes me a picture of naked women or a thought to get me hard
second I stopped reading stories cuz i went threw them all a while back i am also here cuz i want an answer not to freak myself
third i keep mentioning that i am pretty much healthy my whole like aslo squats dont raise test thas a myth working out ya but its a spike for a short time and i got tired from mentioning i have a high testosterone
last thing is how my situation is mental while u claiming shrinked piens from 2 pills?? studies showed ed can happen from a pill but not a shrinked piens there were studies done on rats that they were given a100mg of fin a day that showed a shrinking in the rats so ?
l want an answer is there a cure for ed ot not like a real cure not ?

ahmed wolf
03-03-2017, 12:22 PM
still don't understand y u keep answering the same answer with different words? I explained myself that i live healthy and what toxic i get threw the day? if i stay a at home most of the day

coppersocks
03-04-2017, 03:05 AM
Ok man, I've already told you I'm no expert (by a fucking mile) and that no one here knows that if you even have PFS or not but you keep asking whether to start the protocol or not so I'm just gonna tell you yes. If the herbs are 100% not available to you then start the protocol doing everything else and see what happens because that will be 100% better than the torturing yourself that you are doing now. Everything in that protocol will help you in some way so go do that and focus on and stop worrying about the sides. Come back and tell us how you are in two weeks.

EDIT: Also do the fast. Even though you eat healthy and don't drink/smoke it will benefit you as it will give your digestive system a chance to focus solely on repair (you've used it every day since you were born so it has its fair share of damage done to it through wear and tear).

Swill
03-04-2017, 07:57 AM
Being blunt, I think you've just scared yourself shitless and you are actually in all likelihood fine bro, with the bulk of your erection issues being stress related. That is not me criticising, issues with mental stress causing ED are very very real. Just relax and go about your life without freaking yourself out.

True story, several years back I confided in my best friend regarding my PFS issues and the effect they were having on me sexually. My friend has a full head of hair and has never taken anything like fin, and after hearing about what I was going through and thinking deeply about it he had his first (and only) bedroom failure with his partner the following day. The mind is powerful stuff.

And if you do wish to do the protocol to cover all bases, by all means go with it, without the herbs if need be. But you seem to ask should you do it then tell us you're healthy so it wont help. You've already made your mind up in that regard.

I think you need to focus on beating the demons in your head and the fear they are bringing first and foremost, irrespective of whether your issues are finasteride related or not.

jimmyjonas
03-04-2017, 09:21 AM
As the guys are saying above if you can't get the Herbs just do the rest, stop doubting, you have nothing to lose man, it can only improve things from where you are at now. Whats the alternative? Go on as you have been, posting on the forums asking the same questions over and over. Has that helped you? Quite the opposite it has made you worse and brought you to where you are now. If you keep doing it you will be stuck, can't you see that? The mind is very very powerful, more than we fully understand, if you keep reading and posting about erectile dysfunction well that's what you'll get. It imprints on your brain. What helps me is I say to myself fuck it! so what if I have ed I'm still breathing and start from there, laugh at your fears and they will fade with time, it's a battle with your demons.

So the advice is do everything you can with the protocol without the Herbs and most importantly stop posting on the forums particularly hairlosstalk etc, there are guys there who are fucking nuts, I had one guy email me regularly telling me he was going to kill himself at any moment and that he had been off fin for months then I'd see him telling someone else he was still on it, and someone else he was off it only a week, total bullshitter who did not have PFS but almost wanted to believe he did and tell everyone else they did have PFS almost delighted in it. I believed that shit at first and thought oh fuck there is no hope I was very close to suicide it's hard to unread that shit But it does fade away once you cut off from it.. So is this what you want with your life? Listening to that fucking poison every day? How will you get better by doing that?

Here is a good positive place I've been feeling a lot stronger since finding here, I still have a lot of work to do and have bad days but nobody can fast for you and work out for you, YOU have to do it yourself, believe in it. Get rid of the doubts about it. Try it for even a month and come back Ahmed you can only feel better than where you are now.

Anyway I'm not saying anymore on it, you have all the advice you need to get better and you will if you get off the computer and just do it.

ahmed wolf
03-05-2017, 04:46 AM
thanx for the reply my family wants me to go and see a shrink is that going to help?
my endocrinologist dont want me to fast it will harm me i have a high metabolism soo 2 weeks starve will kill me and i want how the fast help with ED my urologist never heard of such a thing and also about sun exposure and piens pump he believes that peins pump can cause ed ?

K8668B
03-05-2017, 05:02 AM
Dude, you need to relax. We all know what you're going through. We've all been there. I went through the initial panic phase too. But once you get over that, and just focus on a plan to better yourself, and cure your PFS, that anxiety will go away. PFS is not un-curable.

No, a shrink will not help. Nor will a doctor, endocrinologist, urologist, etc. They cant help, because they are simply misinformed and do not understand PFS. I have fast metabolism too, and allthough I will not be starting my fast for another 2 days, i do not believe it will kill you. If you water fast, you would only do so under medical/professional supervision. If you juice feast/fast, you will be taking in fruits and vegetables broken down into their liquid state, and that would likely be enough to keep you going.

I do not see how sun exposure would hurt you. That's common sense. A certain amount of melatonin is required for the human body. As long as you dont overdo it and burn the shit out of yourself.

I don't know too much about a penis pump, so as far as that goes, you would have to ask someone else.

ahmed wolf
03-05-2017, 05:02 AM
thanx for the reply mu family wants me to c a shrink my endocrinologist hit me in the head with his pen and kicked me out saying how can i have sides with high dht high testosterone higer than range acne in my back is killing me oily skin oily hair my urologist is considered about my dht fearing i may develop a enlarged prostate in the future
my problem is i am not convinced that my sides are psychologic or my mind make me think i got sides and i am not convinced about how can a protocol have a starving period will help me ? i will probably turn into a skeleton or die really most ppl eat food and enjoying it i eat food to live actually I stopped feeling hungry or eat for fun or what normal ppl do since i made a commitment to the gym I spent an year with out eating a single carb that was when i was 17 years old i ended up with a ripped but skinny body and build my self from there
all i want is a cure for ed is peins transplant or implants or bionc is a cure should i start saving money for them?

K8668B
03-05-2017, 05:22 AM
I just went back and read what some of the other guys said in response to you. It almost sounds like you dont even have PFS. You even said that you can look at a sexy pic of a woman, or just a thought, and get hard from it. Did you ever take any 5AR inhibitors like propecia/finasteride, saw palmetto etc? If you have PFS, then the protocol here has already been laid out for you. Just believe in it and do it.

If not, and if this is just simply "ed" that you have, then your battle to fix your problems should be even easier to fix than someone with PFS. ALOT EASIER! Stop panicking. Listen to what the other guys have already told you.

coppersocks
03-05-2017, 05:24 AM
1. Yes a shrink may benefit you, it has me in the past but be aware that not every shrink is for every person and that it may not be a good "fit". I had to leave my first one as I realised that we had totally different values. But I disgress, if your ED is psychologically created then a shrink may absolutely help you get over it.
2. Ahmed you seem to be consistently misunderstanding what this protocol is and how it works. The fast will not cure ED but it will 1. Help your body focus on repair as it uses a lot of energy just to digest what you eat and 2. Put your body into a more receptive state to the protocol once you end the fast. Your urologist will not have heard of such a thing because this protocol is a holistic approach that utilitises multiple angles of attack to help cure PFS by getting the body and mind in the best position to support the correct hormonal state. Every facet of it is designed to point towards that, not one of these things will cure PFS ED (which I honestly doubt you have), particularly in the wrong state of mind.
3. It doesn't matter what your metabolism is a one or two week juice fast will not kill you. You get plenty of nutrition from the fruit and veg in the juice. Also, I'm an extreme ectomorph with a very high metabolism, not dead.
4. What the fuck are you talking about with a transplant? You are quite possibly in very real risk of having a mental breakdown if that's the line of thought that you are heading down. It makes no sense, this is curable if it's PFS or if its purely psychological. In either case, the protocol WILL HELP as at the very least the various parts of it will give you a positive feedback loop as opposed to the unnecessary anxiety ridden maelstrom that seems to be going on in your mind currently.
5. Yes, a penis pump used incorrectly can damage a penis. However the bath mate listed seems to be much safer. However it is not 100% necessary as it is aimed at those not getting any nighttime or morning wood so that the penis does not get the blood flow it needs leading to poor health of the penis. If you are still getting hard in your sleep it probably not that necessary. I'm starting the protocol without one due to lack of funds.
6. Maybe this is just my cultural ignorance showing but I can't for the life of me work out why you keep writing penis as "piens".

So, go to your shrink and look to tackle your ANXIETY not erectile dysfunction. Start the protocol. You will get better, working on your body and mind like this will solve your ED. It is that simple man.

ahmed wolf
03-05-2017, 05:44 AM
yes i took fin for 3 days a drug i was afraid to take for the past 2 years lost 70% of my hair density in those 2 years so i took it
imi am sorry but I trust my doctor and medical aspect more than the internet i come from a family of doctors 7 siblings are doctors
my endocrinologist is a professor 66 years old i was under his supervision when i was competing in bodybuilding he cured tons of guys with hormones issues he was in a medical team that made a study on sex offense and rapest in the uk by using female hormones and how much it took them to loose there libido so it will be common sense if didn't believe me or thinking its my psychology
thanx fro ur replay and help but i am sorry man u took fin when u was 17 when i was 17 i was afride to take an aspirin or to drink a beer or a protein supplement not a hormone changing drug so we are in vary different places when it comes to body health or health fear in my case i hope u recover really

ahmed wolf
03-05-2017, 06:06 AM
thanx for the reply and sharing ur experience
my issue is i am not believing in how can a shrink help my ed?
second is how can a protocol that has everything i do in my life since i was a teen helps me or my ed?
i am in a very fucked up place just the thought of ed is make me wana cripple myself and be done with so u can see why am asking about a cure and surgical operations
not convinced about this self healing with starving ur self since it's pretty much human nature to eat and this whole digestive system needs a rest period
i am a muslim we fast a whole month a year it pretty much intermittent fasting when i fast with my maintaining diet for that month I lose muscal mass and bf so i only imagine what 2 weeks fast will do to me i lost sone mass from skipping the gym and turn my life into shit cause of finasteride and pfs and the internet i can't afford to lose more
my only problem is ed my urologist also not convinced 3 pills will do sides cuse it don't make sense really
my issue is ed i am convinced i got from fin and the common sense and studies and my experience with hormones u cant get sides form a couple pills even cocian and heroine are not like that in the other hand i feel ed but i am convinced it cant be psychologic cause i dont believe is psychologic issues so u can see the battle that's happening in my head

Cdsnuts
03-05-2017, 08:50 AM
Here is the problem....there are several of them.

Language barrier. This is difficult enough to explain and get through to guys speaking the same language as me let alone someone speaking a different language.

Secondly, we are giving you advice and you are choosing not to take it and you are questioning it. This isn't making things any easier for you.

You already have preconceived notions to what is going to work and what won't work. So why ask questions here?

You either choose to jump in with both feet, or you don't.

Those are you only options.

ahmed wolf
03-10-2017, 01:56 AM
I choose not because it doesn't make any sense especially the cleansing part for guy who has been healthy for the past 10 years i see guys saying give ur digestive system a break funny thing it's called digestive system it need to digest before u say clean the fin pills I took they are long gone from my system i have read all the studies on the drug
I thought this place was a better place but it turned out to be another loony house ppl claiming shrinked peins from 2 pills minox cause"pfs" ppl crashes after eating peanuts guy can't sleep deep but still sleep 7-8 hr for a year after one pill guys took fin before 21 and blaming the drug for there sides
I should have listened to my doctor a fucking professor that no way in hell u get sides from 3 pills and even if i did they are gone but noooooo I listened to a bunch of strangers online saying i am fucked fir good or other group of stranges telling me to start a protocol to healthy living and follow it the same way a typical pro science cuse if its not a pro science u should answered differently when i keep saying i am living healthy since 16 years old counting macros increase my metabolism rate changes work outs plane to fit my goals before it was "cool"
so thanks for putting me in this loop i am done
one last thing is almost every guy was happy popping there first fin pill except me cause i wasn't happy to be reducing dht or mess with my hormones i looked at it as death sentence and keep saying if i found sides i will stop its all cuse I lost 60% of my hair in 2 years after reading how long guys took fin with sides they would jumped on a tranny regime if thy expected a fast hair loss
hope the ones with the real sides recover as for the looneys here thanx for make my feel like shit

coppersocks
03-10-2017, 02:11 AM
I choose not because it doesn't make any sense especially the cleansing part for guy who has been healthy for the past 10 years i see guys saying give ur digestive system a break funny thing it's called digestive system it need to digest before u say clean the fin pills I took they are long gone from my system i have read all the studies on the drug
I thought this place was a better place but it turned out to be another loony house ppl claiming shrinked peins from 2 pills minox cause"pfs" ppl crashes after eating peanuts guy can't sleep deep but still sleep 7-8 hr for a year after one pill guys took fin before 21 and blaming the drug for there sides
I should have listened to my doctor a fucking professor that no way in hell u get sides from 3 pills and even if i did they are gone but noooooo I listened to a bunch of strangers online saying i am fucked fir good or other group of stranges telling me to start a protocol to healthy living and follow it the same way a typical pro science cuse if its not a pro science u should answered differently when i keep saying i am living healthy since 16 years old counting macros increase my metabolism rate changes work outs plane to fit my goals before it was "cool"
so thanks for putting me in this loop i am done
one last thing is almost every guy was happy popping there first fin pill except me cause i wasn't happy to be reducing dht or mess with my hormones i looked at it as death sentence and keep saying if i found sides i will stop its all cuse I lost 60% of my hair in 2 years after reading how long guys took fin with sides they would jumped on a tranny regime if thy expected a fast hair loss
hope the ones with the real sides recover as for the looneys here thanx for make my feel like shit
So let's get this straight; on top of being consistently borderline rude, obnoxious and conderscending to anyone who has tried to help you, you are now blaming us all for your problems when we have told you time and again to calm the fuck down and that they are likely in your head. This is along with the fact that you still seem to have no clue or understanding as to the processes that the protocol utilises (not to mention simple punctuation) in order to help your body and mind regardless of whether you actually have PFS or not. I can only speak for myself here but all I can say to you now man is good fucking riddance.

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xxLUK
03-10-2017, 05:31 AM
I choose not because it doesn't make any sense especially the cleansing part for guy who has been healthy for the past 10 years i see guys saying give ur digestive system a break funny thing it's called digestive system it need to digest before u say clean the fin pills I took they are long gone from my system i have read all the studies on the drug
I thought this place was a better place but it turned out to be another loony house ppl claiming shrinked peins from 2 pills minox cause"pfs" ppl crashes after eating peanuts guy can't sleep deep but still sleep 7-8 hr for a year after one pill guys took fin before 21 and blaming the drug for there sides
I should have listened to my doctor a fucking professor that no way in hell u get sides from 3 pills and even if i did they are gone but noooooo I listened to a bunch of strangers online saying i am fucked fir good or other group of stranges telling me to start a protocol to healthy living and follow it the same way a typical pro science cuse if its not a pro science u should answered differently when i keep saying i am living healthy since 16 years old counting macros increase my metabolism rate changes work outs plane to fit my goals before it was "cool"
so thanks for putting me in this loop i am done
one last thing is almost every guy was happy popping there first fin pill except me cause i wasn't happy to be reducing dht or mess with my hormones i looked at it as death sentence and keep saying if i found sides i will stop its all cuse I lost 60% of my hair in 2 years after reading how long guys took fin with sides they would jumped on a tranny regime if thy expected a fast hair loss
hope the ones with the real sides recover as for the looneys here thanx for make my feel like shit
relax bro, its all in your head ;) propecia is good for you, keep taking it

Cdsnuts
03-10-2017, 06:53 AM
So let's get this straight; on top of being consistently borderline rude, obnoxious and conderscending to anyone who has tried to help you, you are now blaming us all for your problems when we have told you time and again to calm the fuck down and that they are likely in your head. This is along with the fact that you still seem to have no clue or understanding as to the processes that the protocol utilises (not to mention simple punctuation) in order to help your body and mind regardless of whether you actually have PFS or not. I can only speak for myself here but all I can say to you now man is good fucking riddance.

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