Prohormone Page?

[Cdsnuts]

So...

Do you guys want me to write up a detailed page on the proper usage of prohormones and their benefits?

I'm taking a poll....

Interested in ALL of your feedback.

[Swill]

I think it would definitely add value.

[Master Mal]

Definitely something I would be interested in.

[coppersocks]

Yeah man I think it would be really helpful as it can be a somewhat confusing and daunting topic to the uninitiated.

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[Cdsnuts]

I was holding off on it for awhile because I don't want guys to get confused thinking they HAVE to run prohormones to get results as the protocol as it stands is more then enough for the "normal" dude. It's even more then enough for the PFS guys, given enough time, although as I've said before, you do get faster results using them as opposed to not using them.

I'll have a couple more guys chime in here to see what they think....so far, it's looking like I might make the page.

[K8668B]

I'm all for it personally!

[CannonBalls]

Yup

[TubZy]

I think it could be good.

I really hope androsterone doesn't get too popular and the FDA starts cracking down on the DHEA derivatives...

[Hulk Smash]

Go for it!

I probably won't take it, but its good to have a guide if needed.

[Cdsnuts]

I think it could be good.

I really hope androsterone doesn't get too popular and the FDA starts cracking down on the DHEA derivatives...

If that happens, we're done. It's all we have left. I mean, it is considered a "dietary supplement" which is laughable really, but they play by their own rules and can pretty much do whatever they want.

It would suck for sure. It would just drive a section of people who would do prohormones to the dark side and the other section would just never do anything at all.

I'm gonna have you look it over Tubz before I publish it. I've decided to write it up within the next few weeks, once I get some more time.

The people have spoken. Thanks guys.

[TubZy]

If that happens, we're done. It's all we have left. I mean, it is considered a "dietary supplement" which is laughable really, but they play by their own rules and can pretty much do whatever they want.

It would suck for sure. It would just drive a section of people who would do prohormones to the dark side and the other section would just never do anything at all.

I'm gonna have you look it over Tubz before I publish it. I've decided to write it up within the next few weeks, once I get some more time.

The people have spoken. Thanks guys.

Well we would still have pine pollen (possibly) lol.

Alright, sounds good, let me know.

[Cdsnuts]

Well we would still have pine pollen (possibly) lol.

Alright, sounds good, let me know.

I find massive doses of pine pollen to be akin to a light prohormone dose. Such good stuff. One of my all time favorites. I buy it by the kilo....lol

[The battler]

I find massive doses of pine pollen to be akin to a light prohormone dose. Such good stuff. One of my all time favorites. I buy it by the kilo....lol

Yo cd
My first post here. Am a dutasteride/fin/saw palmetto sufferer (yeah, all of em) lol.

I am clear about the basic protocol. However, I am still not sure about the prohormone game.
Tubzy talks about a bunch of stuff like combining progestorone, DHEA and pregonolone and then there are the more basic R Andro and the transdermal Androhard.
Can you, along with the other guys guide me on this front as to what I should invest in?

[Cdsnuts]

Yo cd
My first post here. Am a dutasteride/fin/saw palmetto sufferer (yeah, all of em) lol.

I am clear about the basic protocol. However, I am still not sure about the prohormone game.
Tubzy talks about a bunch of stuff like combining progestorone, DHEA and pregonolone and then there are the more basic R Andro and the transdermal Androhard.
Can you, along with the other guys guide me on this front as to what I should invest in?

I sent you a PM

[K8668B]

Im all for it, but its this product gets too much attention, like tubzy said, then wed be fucked. it might be a bad idea, now that i think about it. not sure though..

[Aflac]

I'm in the camp interested in the page with info on taking pro-hormones; I don't have any experience

[Hulk Smash]

Do prohormones work in the same way sorghum does?

It seems I don't respond to sorghum.

Do the herbs also increase DHT?

I saw mention of prohormones creating body hair growth in new areas.
Its a good thing in my book. I'm guessing this happens because the body creates new receptors
for Testosterone/DHT. Do the original hair receptors in the body become sensitized to DHT again?

I lost much of my body hair...I need it back and then some!

[5 alpha victim]

It sounds like a good idea as long it's understood that it's something that has to be used in conjunction with the rest of your protocol rather than a substitute. This pount would obviously be important for P F S guys.

Maybe it's even a good idea to recommend that a PFS guy follows the protocol for X amount of time before incorporating it in as well.

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[Cdsnuts]

It sounds like a good idea as long it's understood that it's something that has to be used in conjunction with the rest of your protocol rather than a substitute. This pount would obviously be important for P F S guys.

Maybe it's even a good idea to recommend that a PFS guy follows the protocol for X amount of time before incorporating it in as well.

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My general suggestion for everyone is going to be to make sure that you've been rotating the herbs for a solid three months, along with proper diet and exercise routine before even attempting to play with prohormones. I'm sure you could argue the point for more time under normal training, but three is going to be my bare minimum recommendation.

It's also going to be made very clear that prohormones are NOT necessary to reap any of the benefits laid out in this program.

[5 alpha victim]

awesome man.

looking forward to reading the prohormone page.


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[Cat]

Hi men's. I had the crash 7/06/2016 and I had all the same symptoms as cdnuts. I'm going to recover, I know, I did my plan doing ALL what says cdnuts, but I think prohormones are necessary to have a faster recovery. So cdnuts can you explain to me, what prohormone recommend and PCT? I know the prohormone's and PCT you used in order to recover (+ all the other things that ARE NECESSARY), what do you think about transdermal AndroHard?

Thanks men.

[LUALBA]

I was holding off on it for awhile because I don't want guys to get confused thinking they HAVE to run prohormones to get results as the protocol as it stands is more then enough for the "normal" dude. It's even more then enough for the PFS guys, given enough time, although as I've said before, you do get faster results using them as opposed to not using them.

I'll have a couple more guys chime in here to see what they think....so far, it's looking like I might make the page.

Cd you can give me the link which is the prohormone that you recommend, i already have 6 months with the protocol

[Aztec]

If that happens, we're done. It's all we have left. I mean, it is considered a "dietary supplement" which is laughable really, but they play by their own rules and can pretty much do whatever they want.

It would suck for sure. It would just drive a section of people who would do prohormones to the dark side and the other section would just never do anything at all.

I'm gonna have you look it over Tubz before I publish it. I've decided to write it up within the next few weeks, once I get some more time.

The people have spoken. Thanks guys.

CD, did you ever post the prohormone write up you referenced at the beginning of this thread? I was intrigued and would enjoy reading the content you produced.

[SS7]

Yes I'd also be keen on this. Something you have ready CD?

[LUALBA]

If that happens, we're done. It's all we have left. I mean, it is considered a "dietary supplement" which is laughable really, but they play by their own rules and can pretty much do whatever they want.

It would suck for sure. It would just drive a section of people who would do prohormones to the dark side and the other section would just never do anything at all.

I'm gonna have you look it over Tubz before I publish it. I've decided to write it up within the next few weeks, once I get some more time.

The people have spoken. Thanks guys.

please answer me!
Good afternoon CD, I have been following the protocol as closely as possible for 2 years cycling 21 herbs,
there I lead the good way to recovery, but my balls numb only in the day and when I go to the bathroom ,,, at nights well, ,,
I would like to start my first cycle of Androhard Transdermal,
Can you guide me please !!, I have to leave the herbs for 2 weeks to start???

[DKnighten]

please answer me!
Good afternoon CD, I have been following the protocol as closely as possible for 2 years cycling 21 herbs,
there I lead the good way to recovery, but my balls numb only in the day and when I go to the bathroom ,,, at nights well, ,,
I would like to start my first cycle of Androhard Transdermal,
Can you guide me please !!, I have to leave the herbs for 2 weeks to start???

Hey man, from what I understand you stop the herb rotation (one herb, 2x daily) during the prohormone cycle. I believe the cycle length is still 6 weeks for the androhard transdermal. From what I understand, you start back up the herb rotation after the prohormone cycle as a form of post cycle therapy and then continue it as normal. I haven't started the full protocol yet myself though. so others may need to clarify.

[Mineiro-up]

And also....any ideas of a trusted site to import to South America?

[Cdsnuts]

please answer me!
Good afternoon CD, I have been following the protocol as closely as possible for 2 years cycling 21 herbs,
there I lead the good way to recovery, but my balls numb only in the day and when I go to the bathroom ,,, at nights well, ,,
I would like to start my first cycle of Androhard Transdermal,
Can you guide me please !!, I have to leave the herbs for 2 weeks to start???

As soon as you start the AH, you stop the herbs. NO HERBS when running PH's. After you're done with the cycle, you start right back into herb cycling. ALL OTHER PARTS OF THE PROTOCOL STAY THE SAME. Don't stop the other things just because you're running PH's. That would be a mistake.

Let me ask you, two years....you should have made some really good strides in that time frame if you have been doing all you should be. How much do you think you were actually staying true to the protocol?

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Hey man, from what I understand you stop the herb rotation (one herb, 2x daily) during the prohormone cycle. I believe the cycle length is still 6 weeks for the androhard transdermal. From what I understand, you start back up the herb rotation after the prohormone cycle as a form of post cycle therapy and then continue it as normal. I haven't started the full protocol yet myself though. so others may need to clarify.

Correct.

[LUALBA]

Hey man, from what I understand you stop the herb rotation (one herb, 2x daily) during the prohormone cycle. I believe the cycle length is still 6 weeks for the androhard transdermal. From what I understand, you start back up the herb rotation after the prohormone cycle as a form of post cycle therapy and then continue it as normal. I haven't started the full protocol yet myself though. so others may need to clarify.

OK thanks brother

[LUALBA]

As soon as you start the AH, you stop the herbs. NO HERBS when running PH's. After you're done with the cycle, you start right back into herb cycling. ALL OTHER PARTS OF THE PROTOCOL STAY THE SAME. Don't stop the other things just because you're running PH's. That would be a mistake.

Let me ask you, two years....you should have made some really good strides in that time frame if you have been doing all you should be. How much do you think you were actually staying true to the protocol?

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Correct.

I have kept your protocol as much as I can believe me I have tried my best ,
and I will continue, only if it is my first cycle can it be 2 weeks or more?

I currently have good libido and erection are part of the achievement, but sometimes I think it is only effect while taking herbs,
but still my balls get small only in the day and when I go to the bathroom ,,,
at night I am fine with the size of my penis and testicles ,
Really thanks for the guidance CD, you are a great human being brother!!

[Cdsnuts]

I have kept your protocol as much as I can believe me I have tried my best ,
and I will continue, only if it is my first cycle can it be 2 weeks or more?

I currently have good libido and erection are part of the achievement, but sometimes I think it is only effect while taking herbs,
but still my balls get small only in the day and when I go to the bathroom ,,,
at night I am fine with the size of my penis and testicles ,
Really thanks for the guidance CD, you are a great human being brother!!

Don't try, do.