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FFin
04-09-2017, 10:40 AM
Hi,

I'm from France so excuse my poor english.

I took finasteride at end of January, the first dose i took was 0.5 mg.

8h after the dose i began to feel really weird : hot flushes, vertigo, anxiety, diarrhea.

I thought it was viral, and didnt made the link with fina.
It lasted 1 week. So i didnt took more.

After one week i took another half dose (0.5 mg) and this time it was hell :

- Panic attack (still there)
- Muscle twitching and pain (better)
- Extreme coldness and shivering (still cold)
- Panic attacks (still there)
- Social phobia (still there)
- Crying spells (still there)
- ED (better)
- Chest tenderness (better)
- Diarrhea ( better but stil loose stool )
- Huge night sweats ( a bit better but still there )
- Heavy heartbeat (better)
- Suicidal thoughts (still there)

My doctor told me it is all in my head but i made a first hormonal test :

This test was done 10 days after the last half pill :

Estradiol 0.07 nmol/l (0.08-0.18)
Test : 42.6 pmol/l (30.1-189.8)
Bioavailable test : 3.1 nmol/l (2.7-12)
DHT : 0.7 nmol/l (0.86-3.44)

Total Bilirubin : 30 mg/l (3-12)
Free bilirubin : 26 mg/l (<11)

TSH 0.737 mUi/l (0.4-3.6)
Free T4 : 14.4 pg/ml (7-16)

PTH < 4 pg/ml (6.5-36.8)
Calcium 2.4 mmol/l (2.2-2.65)

Low no ? Doctor said it is all in my head !

So i made a second test, two weeks later :

Total bilirubin : 20.9 mg/l (3-12) (down)
Free bilirubin : 14.6 mg/l (<11) (down)
25 OHD : 30 ng/ml

Testosterone free : 51.5 pmol/l (30.8-189)
Available Test : 4.2 nmol/l (2.7-12) (up)
DHT : 1.04 nmol/l (0.86-3.44) (up)

Since it wasnt getting better i went to my doctor, and made a third test :

25 OH : 18.6 ng/ml (down)
PTH < 4 (same)
Calcium corrected : 2.33 mmol/l (2.2-2.65)
Phosphorus : 1.11 mmol/l (0.8-1.44)
Calciuria : 154 mg/24h (<300)

TSH 0.529 mUi/l (0.4-3.6) (down)
Free T4 : 11.5 pg/ml (7-16.3) (down)
Free T3 : 2.71 pg/ml (2.17-3.34)

Once again it is all in my head, but he sent me to an endo, new blood test :

LH : 1.3 mUi/l (1.7-11.2)
FSH : 2 mUi/l (2.1-18.6)

SECONDARY HYPOGONADISM ?

DHT : 0.74 nmol/l (down)
Bioavailable test : 4.8 pmol/l (up)
D4-androstenedione : 12.6 nmol/l (1.7-10.5)
Cortisol : 280 µg/l (80-250)
ACTH : 65.5 ng/L (5-60)
Urinary cortisol : 541 nmol/24h (160-1112)
Magnesium : 21.7 mg/l (18-26)


LHRH TEST :

LH range : 1.2-8.62 mUi/l
T0 : 2.4
T30 : 11.6
T60 : 9.8

FSH range : 1.27-19.2 mUi/l
T0 : 1.7
T30 : 2.6
T60 : 2.7

TRH TEST :
Normal TSH base value : 0.35-4 mUil/l
T0 : 0.67
T30 :4.72
T60 : 2.98

Normal prolaction base value : 2.6 - 13.1 ng/ml
T0 : 7.7
T30 : 18.94
T60 : 10.68

Ok so now, here is where i am, i'm stucked with anxiety, cannot work...

Don't know how to cure this, they want to put me on Effexor 75 mg.

In 2 weeks it will be three months.

Thanks for the help

Snell1234
04-09-2017, 04:50 PM
Do not take Effexor whatever you do. It will only make things worse.

Have a look at cdnut's recovery website where he sets out how you go about recovering:

http://www.totalmaleoptimization.com

Go through that, read the stickies at the top of the page and then come back if you have any questions.

coppersocks
04-10-2017, 06:36 AM
Heya man, sorry you're going through this. The good news is that you're getting better and will continue to do so especially if you follow the protocol laid out above. At the moment your hormones are outta balance and anxiety absolutely makes this worse. What your doctors are saying is essentially a null point as though you can build controls around anxiety in your head, the cause is clearly hormonal and so it becomes a vicious circle as your stress hinders your bodies ability to fix itself and make you more stressed in the process. Because of this a very important factor here is to pay close attention to CD's "Calming the mind" section, the breathing technique described used together with meditation will really help put your mind at ease and allow your body to begin the healing process.
If you have any questions feel free to ask.