Anyone Beat The Physical Side Effects

[holyhead]

Anyone recover from the physical sides? I have a totally different body now than before this..I was almost past getting off the couch in Feb but seen a neuro hormone specialist in LA and was put on a round of supplements and clomid..Big turn around after 3 months now my mind is pre finasteride..Mental sides are totally gone.However physical is getting worse and bigger..Its like water filled baby fat all over upper body..Chest, bicep area, stomach, waist etc...Totally alien like but I have great energy and mental clarity now..I am able to work outside now and do chores etc than I couldn't before..Had extensive testing and everything was low, Test, free test, estrogen, dhes, pregnenlone..HGH was virtually nothing I think that is a big factor in the physical sides growth hormone is way low....It also seems less common than the mental and sexual sides but it is an awful condition..I weighed 165 for 15 years now 220..Gained 60lbs and its just like water or fluid all over you are lugging around..Its very tiresome just dead weight...I am on dhea, pregnenolone, tribulus, cognitive aminos,clomid 50mg, vit d, secretropin to increase growth hormone..I have had a big turn around and improvement but the physical body is just mush...My total test was 380, free test was 7.9, estrogen was 16 and growth hormone was low..I go back in June for next labs...

[holyhead]

Growth Hormone
<0.03 LN
5ng/ml*




Somatomedin C (IGF-1)**
163 LN
> 200 ng/ml*




IGF BP-3
4800 N
4000 ng/ml*




DHEA-S
161.0 LN
~255 ug/dl*




Testosterone Free
7.91 LN
~14 pg/ml*




Testosterone Total
380 LN
690 ng/ml*




Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
23.0 N
< 55 ng/Dl*




Sex Hormone Binding Gb
28 N
< 45 pg/ml*




Prostatic PSA
1.86 N
<4.0ng/ml




Estrone (E1)
22.1 N
< 60 pg/ml*




Estradiol (E2)
12.2 N
<25 pg/ml*




Pregnenolone***
27 LN
110ng/dl*




Progesterone**
0.36 LN
0.8ng/ml*




FSH
8.7 N
7 mIU/ml*




LH*** (CPC)
8.2 HN
5.1 mIU/ml




Prolactin
7.9 N
14 ng/ml*




Zinc
94 N
95 mcg/dL*




Insulin
7.2 N
< 25mIU/L




Vitamin D3
65 N
>60 ng/dl*




TSH
2.21 N
<2.5 mcu/ml*




T4, Free
1.31 LN
> 1.5 ng/ml




TSH Index
2.39 N
1.3 – 4.1




T3, Free (total = T3 + rT3)
3.5 N
> 2.5 pg/ml




rT3
135 N
80-250 pg/ml




T3/rT3 Ratio
2.60 N
>1.06




TPO
-
<35

My labs below..


ACTH
39.10 HN
< 35pg/ml *

[Maxout777]

Yes, I was very soft and pudgy after I crashed. Muscle tone lost, had a very nice gut and beer belly going on. Even looked like I had gyno, but not 100% sure on that. That's all gone now, and I'm literally in the best shape of my life physically. That's saying alot for me too.

[holyhead]

I need to take a pic in the morning then one at night..the difference is stricking all over lower and upper torso..Its like you swell or collect fluid through the day..Very abnormal.

[Maxout777]

What's your diet like? Have you attempted any sort of cleansing activity?

[Durantia37]

I have the same kind of cycle, but not to the extremes you're describing. Look normal in the morning, more swollen and bloated and fat at night. It's been gradually normalized and reduced by the protocol. I've no reason to believe it shouldn't continue reducing and normalizing.

I think it has to do with metabolism slowing down later in the day (which also allows bad gut bacteria to grow). Ultimately a thyroid problem, imo. Maxout can help you from here, I just wanted to let you know this isn't unique to you.

[Cdsnuts]

You need to drop the pharms.....clomid especially. Playing wack-a-mole with your endocrine system isn't going to do you any good.

Jump on the protocol and heal holistically. All parts will come together and heal properly, the way they should.

If you feel the need for estrogen control, this will do the trick: Pine Pollen | (http://www.totalmaleoptimization.com/testosterone-boosting-supplement-rotation/pine-pollen/)

[Cdsnuts]

Agreed. I don't see how people feel the need to jump on pharms when there are good, natural options that are far more stable and imo helpful.

High dose pine pollen every day along with k2 and niacinimide have been a god send for me.
Yes. The pine pollen literally flushes estrogen out of your system. It does it beautifully and gently.

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[holyhead]

I ordered the Pine Pollen..