The no fap thread

[Holistic]

What is your longest streak and how it made you feel? Did you notice any improvements whatsoever ? Mine was 3 months pre pfs and I got some good results. Post pfs is 22 days and got consistent morning wood and also a mild erotic dream, it was also during the cleanse though. For some reason it is hard for me to abstain now since I seem to get anxious at one point and want to check everything is working down there. What is your take on no fap?

[Maxout777]

I think I went between 2-3 months last summer, didn't notice a ton of benefit, but did have a wet dream for the first time in YEARS. Or really, the first one that I ever remember.

I think it's important - especially to abstain from porn, but I don't believe it's the end all be all of sexual healing. It definitely helps though.

[Snell1234]

I've done it since January 4 this year with no relapse.

Our bodies weren't designed for us to be doing it to ourselves. Anything that we aren't designed for we shouldn't really be doing. And agree with the above - it helps but by no means is it the cure in itself.

[Durantia37]

Been about 2 months for me. I think there's more to not masturbating than the sexual benefits (which for me have been a level of sensitivity that I did not know was even possible). You're also healing your dopamine reward system and increasing your energy and testosterone.

My favorite part has been the psychological side though. Orgasms have a kind of awe or mystique now that they didn't have at all when I was jacking off every day. I feel more clean and honest and almost virginal (but not in a way that affects my masculinity).

[Cdsnuts]

Been about 2 months for me. I think there's more to not masturbating than the sexual benefits (which for me have been a level of sensitivity that I did not know was even possible). You're also healing your dopamine reward system and increasing your energy and testosterone.

This is the most important part, IMO.

[K8668B]

I think I went between 2-3 months last summer, didn't notice a ton of benefit, but did have a wet dream for the first time in YEARS. Or really, the first one that I ever remember.

I think it's important - especially to abstain from porn, but I don't believe it's the end all be all of sexual healing. It definitely helps though.

Agreed. Went 23 days last october myself... it DID give slight benefits, but it was not the "be all/end all" i had hoped for. In reality, it is just a mere piece of the whole puzzle.

The key is no porn in my opinion. And also... i heard many times of this supposed "flatline" period that occurs at a certain amount of days. What is the whole point of this? Why would one want to get even worse? And why would one get worse or go through a "flatline" in the first place? Fuck that shit. Sounds kinda detrimental actually. I personally would try go anywhere from once every 7 days, to once a month at the most.

And what happens if you have sex with a real woman, and you happen to cum with her? Does that mean you have to reset your count? i have no idea...

[andreasoz]

Agreed. Went 23 days last october myself... it DID give slight benefits, but it was not the "be all/end all" i had hoped for. In reality, it is just a mere piece of the whole puzzle.

The key is no porn in my opinion. And also... i heard many times of this supposed "flatline" period that occurs at a certain amount of days. What is the whole point of this? Why would one want to get even worse? And why would one get worse or go through a "flatline" in the first place? Fuck that shit. Sounds kinda detrimental actually. I personally would try go anywhere from once every 7 days, to once a month at the most.

And what happens if you have sex with a real woman, and you happen to cum with her? Does that mean you have to reset your count? i have no idea...

You get bonus points. +3 nofap

[Swill]

Agreed. Went 23 days last october myself... it DID give slight benefits, but it was not the "be all/end all" i had hoped for. In reality, it is just a mere piece of the whole puzzle.

The key is no porn in my opinion. And also... i heard many times of this supposed "flatline" period that occurs at a certain amount of days. What is the whole point of this? Why would one want to get even worse? And why would one get worse or go through a "flatline" in the first place? Fuck that shit. Sounds kinda detrimental actually. I personally would try go anywhere from once every 7 days, to once a month at the most.

And what happens if you have sex with a real woman, and you happen to cum with her? Does that mean you have to reset your count? i have no idea...

Sex is fine... beneficial infact. Slapping it like a monkey hunched over in front of a computer screen is not.

[Cdsnuts]

Agreed. Went 23 days last october myself... it DID give slight benefits, but it was not the "be all/end all" i had hoped for. In reality, it is just a mere piece of the whole puzzle.

The key is no porn in my opinion. And also... i heard many times of this supposed "flatline" period that occurs at a certain amount of days. What is the whole point of this? Why would one want to get even worse? And why would one get worse or go through a "flatline" in the first place? Fuck that shit. Sounds kinda detrimental actually. I personally would try go anywhere from once every 7 days, to once a month at the most.

And what happens if you have sex with a real woman, and you happen to cum with her? Does that mean you have to reset your count? i have no idea...

As Swill had mentioned, sex is completely different from a biological stand point then masturbating to your computer screen. Sex involves a very complicated interplay of pheromones, hormones and neurotransmitters which become activated through contact with your partner. These chemicals stand to benefit your body and mind and are recommended over self gratification.

Masturbation drains you of the hormones you're trying to bolster especially chronic masturbation and especially when using visual stimulus such as online porn as opposed to even just using your imagination.

You should aim to have as much sex as you can during this period of recovery as it only stands to help get things back to where you want them to be. An understanding partner during this time is in fact, very crucial to speeding along your recover. Not 100% necessary, but certainly very, very helpful.

[K8668B]

As Swill had mentioned, sex is completely different from a biological stand point then masturbating to your computer screen. Sex involves a very complicated interplay of pheromones, hormones and neurotransmitters which become activated through contact with your partner. These chemicals stand to benefit your body and mind and are recommended over self gratification.

Masturbation drains you of the hormones you're trying to bolster especially chronic masturbation and especially when using visual stimulus such as online porn as opposed to even just using your imagination.

You should aim to have as much sex as you can during this period of recovery as it only stands to help get things back to where you want them to be. An understanding partner during this time is in fact, very crucial to speeding along your recover. Not 100% necessary, but certainly very, very helpful.

Nice!! Amen to that! That's good to hear! I wouldve never thought otherwise, but its still nice to hear. The tough part is finding an understanding one... hehe

[Swill]

Nice!! Amen to that! That's good to hear! I wouldve never thought otherwise, but its still nice to hear. The tough part is finding an understanding one... hehe

You'd be surprised... I've found and married my understanding one... all whilst dealing with PFS. There are some good women about and this if anything filters out the ones that aren't worth your time. Now I'm on the road to recovery she's finding out what she's got herself in for :p

[Durantia37]

How did you introduce the fact that you had PFS? Right up front or later on?

[K8668B]

How did you introduce the fact that you had PFS? Right up front or later on?

Good question. I wonder this myself.

[Swill]

I was quite up front about it at a relatively early period and as things got more serious I kinda explained it in more depth... I think the biggest worry in it all is our sub-conscious male pride of it all and how it makes us 'feel' to say you're having trouble sexually to a girl, I think we have trouble with the stigma far more than they do typically.

When you think about it, how hard is it really to say "I just want to let you know I'm having some issues sexually and with libido because I had an adverse reaction to a drug I was prescribed, but i'm working on getting better and its just a matter of time, so bare with me." It can be as little a deal as that and generally the response will surprise you.

If the girl pushes for info regarding the drug, tell her as much as you feel comfortable doing so, you can say it was some hormonal supplement a doc pushed on you and you weren't made aware of the side effects. Hell, tell them anything, you can always clarify it further later on if you end up getting closer. I was surprised to find that I found it more difficult to admit that it was vanity related due to a hair loss pill than I did admitting I have some issues sexually.

And if you're having a hard time in the act, its not a killer thing to instead of letting it mind fuck you, you can simply say, "I'm having some issues with my health right now" and playfully suggest there are other ways you can make her happy (your tongue) and make it all about her. Inject a bit of fun into it, take the pressure off yourself, and focus on the moment rather than stressing. You'll even be surprised who may show up to the party a few minutes later when you get more aroused down the line without the pressure on you.

[Durantia37]

Great response, thanks man. I can't imagine having the energy/time to date someone while working and doing the protocol and having PFS, but if the right opportunity arises I'll take your advice for sure.

[DrivenToRecover]

I was quite up front about it at a relatively early period and as things got more serious I kinda explained it in more depth... I think the biggest worry in it all is our sub-conscious male pride of it all and how it makes us 'feel' to say you're having trouble sexually to a girl, I think we have trouble with the stigma far more than they do typically.

When you think about it, how hard is it really to say "I just want to let you know I'm having some issues sexually and with libido because I had an adverse reaction to a drug I was prescribed, but i'm working on getting better and its just a matter of time, so bare with me." It can be as little a deal as that and generally the response will surprise you.

If the girl pushes for info regarding the drug, tell her as much as you feel comfortable doing so, you can say it was some hormonal supplement a doc pushed on you and you weren't made aware of the side effects. Hell, tell them anything, you can always clarify it further later on if you end up getting closer. I was surprised to find that I found it more difficult to admit that it was vanity related due to a hair loss pill than I did admitting I have some issues sexually.

And if you're having a hard time in the act, its not a killer thing to instead of letting it mind fuck you, you can simply say, "I'm having some issues with my health right now" and playfully suggest there are other ways you can make her happy (your tongue) and make it all about her. Inject a bit of fun into it, take the pressure off yourself, and focus on the moment rather than stressing. You'll even be surprised who may show up to the party a few minutes later when you get more aroused down the line without the pressure on you.

Thank you for this. I'm actively trying to begin a relationship with a girl, and this was definitely helpful.

I think its also important to make it clear to the girl that she is a huge help to you through your "health issues". Don't make her feel like she has to take care of you, just that she is a valuable partner during a tough time. From my experience, women love to feel the impact and potential positive influence they can have on you.

Plus, meaningful relationships are always built overcoming adversity together...romantically or otherwise.