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Cdsnuts
06-22-2017, 05:40 PM
This is a couple weeks in...

Not the most flattering lighting, but you get the idea.

6'4" 220 ... I have to start eating a lot more though. I'm way lighter then I should be at this point. I've been skipping meals and working instead. That's going to stop. I could probably be five or more pounds heavier had I been eating correctly for this cycle.

I'm going to start preparing food on the weekends so that I have it ready during the week. This will stop me from skipping meals when I can just grab something already made.

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Eden
06-22-2017, 07:41 PM
Prepping food is rad, I hope it works out for you in shaa Allah.

You look pretty good another 5lbs would be interesting to see.

Cdsnuts
06-22-2017, 09:02 PM
Prepping food is rad, I hope it works out for you in shaa Allah.

You look pretty good another 5lbs would be interesting to see.
I have about 9 more weeks left in this cycle and with proper feeding I expect to be able to put on another 10 pounds

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Eden
06-22-2017, 09:16 PM
Oh yea that should be plenty of time.

delsolrob
06-23-2017, 01:31 AM
looking good, brutha!

Looking forward to seeing how the progress goes :thumbsup:

Strong_Guy_
06-23-2017, 07:17 AM
Good job with the pics, looks like you're at a good lean point to put some solid mass on. Any trick to getting the pics to work? Every time I've tried to upload pics, I get a message back saying the file size is too big or something.

Cdsnuts
06-23-2017, 07:52 AM
Good job with the pics, looks like you're at a good lean point to put some solid mass on. Any trick to getting the pics to work? Every time I've tried to upload pics, I get a message back saying the file size is too big or something.

Don't know why I didn't think of this sooner....I simply used my phone through tapatalk and it was as easy as uploading photos to facebook or anything else.

In regards to the pic size, if you're using your PC, you can use a free program online that re-sizes the pics so that they can be uploaded here. It's still kind of a pain in the ass though compared to other forums.

Yeah, I'm definitely more lean then I've been in the past couple years. Too much work, not enough food....lol. But putting on some mass is going to be as simple as having another two meals per day. I also haven't been using my supplemental protein. Going to add two shakes per day as well. It's going to go on quick. I bet I notice a difference in a weeks time.

Cdsnuts
06-24-2017, 08:19 AM
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Cdsnuts
07-04-2017, 09:20 AM
Some photo updates a week later

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Strong_Guy_
07-04-2017, 12:49 PM
So are you noticing any significant feel to the cycle yet? I'm about 3 1/2 weeks in on my Nor/4-Andro combo and size, vascularity, and strength are all making steady increases. One thing I've noticed over the last couple days is I have been a bit more emotional, not angry or ragey per se, more like mood swings. I'll monitor it some more and report back, could be anomalous, could be job related, could be the busy summer holiday or some combination of these factors. The 3 to 4 week mark is when things generally really kick in on DHEA derivatives so I'm anxious to see how things develop.

Swill
07-04-2017, 01:55 PM
Coming along nicely man!

PeterA
07-04-2017, 03:18 PM
Looks good!
What are your diet? Do you bulk now?
With many carbs the whole day?

Cdsnuts
07-04-2017, 05:00 PM
Looks good!
What are your diet? Do you bulk now?
With many carbs the whole day?
Peter....do you realize you ask questions that have readily available answers?

I mean not for nothing, but I literally have a whole website explaining in detail exactly what it is that I do.

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K8668B
07-04-2017, 05:56 PM
Some photo updates a week later

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Looking jacked cdsnuts! For a guy whose 6'4", 220-240ish, youre quite lean!

Cdsnuts
07-04-2017, 07:29 PM
Looking jacked cdsnuts! For a guy whose 6'4", 220-240ish, youre quite lean!
I'm nowhere near 240. Believe it or not I've only put on a few pounds since I started but the muscle fullness has certainly increased.

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PeterA
07-04-2017, 11:01 PM
Peter....do you realize you ask questions that have readily available answers?

I mean not for nothing, but I literally have a whole website explaining in detail exactly what it is that I do.

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But i thought your plan was to bulk now??
Then it would be good for you with many carbs, like 90% of people who bulk do it with first a bulk plan, and after that a cut plan.
Its waaaay faster and less complicated, compared to fx carb backloading?

PeterA
07-04-2017, 11:05 PM
Ofc i know your website, but i mean - you are healed now. Like you drink alcohol again and can do whatever you want whenever you want.
So why not just take the simple and most effective way?

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 09:21 AM
But i thought your plan was to bulk now??
Then it would be good for you with many carbs, like 90% of people who bulk do it with first a bulk plan, and after that a cut plan.
Its waaaay faster and less complicated, compared to fx carb backloading?

Wrong.

With carb backloading I can consistently increase the amount of muscle I put on while simultaneously keeping the fat off. Win, win.

It IS the simplest way IMO.

Why bother bulking, getting fat and bloated only to have to strip it all away?

Watch as my cycle progresses and the muscle continues to pile on. I'm going to stay lean the whole time. This is the beauty of back loading.

PeterA
07-05-2017, 10:03 AM
Haha what? So you really think that you bulk and then cut ALL of it again??
No no no, you bulk and gain muscles,m and fat, after that you cut the fat off.
And then you are bigger than before and still cutted.
Trust me its faster.
So you never eat carbs while the day??
Thats so fucking strange for me when you are healed, just fucking enjoy your life after all that shit????

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 12:42 PM
Haha what? So you really think that you bulk and then cut ALL of it again??
No no no, you bulk and gain muscles,m and fat, after that you cut the fat off.
And then you are bigger than before and still cutted.
Trust me its faster.
So you never eat carbs while the day??
Thats so fucking strange for me when you are healed, just fucking enjoy your life after all that shit????
You don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm just going to end this conversation here.

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PeterA
07-05-2017, 12:50 PM
You don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm just going to end this conversation here.

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Haha, well. Good argument. Really good argument :-)

Swill
07-05-2017, 01:36 PM
Haha what? So you really think that you bulk and then cut ALL of it again??
No no no, you bulk and gain muscles,m and fat, after that you cut the fat off.
And then you are bigger than before and still cutted.
Trust me its faster.
So you never eat carbs while the day??
Thats so fucking strange for me when you are healed, just fucking enjoy your life after all that shit????

I've not been drawn in and given you the benefit of the doubt a number of times due to the language barrier but enough is enough.... who the flying fuck do you think you are?!

Here are the facts... carb backloading is not designed just to help people with PFS... none of what we do is. It's a method a lot of people use to put on muscle whilst remaining relatively lean. CD has used it for a long time, it doesn't look like its doing him any harm... right? I have used it too and find it very beneficial. So have a good number of people on this forum. A lot of people think the way it optimises hormones is particularly beneficial to PFS guys, its a protocol created by a well known guy called Kiefer and all the science is there on the document he has published about it... google it if you care enough to learn. Or dont. Who cares.

Are there other methods of eating and diet for bodybuilding? Yes, absolutely. Just like there are a million ways to strength train and to do just about anything. It's all about preference and it very clearly works for CD. So I don't think he needs to 'trust you its better.'

Long before a lot of people with PFS (including myself) showed up, this was an incredibly active bodybuilding forum, of which CD was a huge part. Everyone from back in the day here has forgotten more about bodybuilding than you have ever known. You've just heard the bulk and cut thing from a couple of meatheads in the gym, I suspect.

CD doesn't eat carbs in the day (typically when his training and diet are on point... but he can and does when he wants to, as he's cured). He can drink now when he feels like and does when he feels like, because he is cured.... christ I bet you just had an orgasm reading that. Glug glug.

He chooses the way he lives and it seems to be doing him a lot of good, whereas you're far too busy populating the 'random questions' thread to make any kind of self improvement. Theres nothing 'fucking strange' about his lifestyle choice, when I'm out of the woods (which I don't believe will be too long) then I will still do the majority of this protocol the majority of the time. Why? For health, for aspiration and for how fucking good it makes you feel... something you've never come close to by the tone of your posts.

If you want to cry about how fucked you are, cut other people down that are doing well, talk incessantly about how much you can't do the things you want to and how you're really sad and depressed about it and cry about all these 'lost years' you'll never get back, then I have just the place for you, you're attitude and negativity will be fully appreciated there...
SolvePFS Index page (http://www.solvepfs.com)
PROPECIAHELP: Persistent Finasteride Propecia Proscar side effects info forum (http://www.propeciahelp.com)

He's not wasting the time arguing with you because he knows there is no point, he doesn't care enough, he has better things to do, he is healed... you are not, yet are coming off with all the arrogance in this conversation. You can slate me in a reply as much as you like mate, I will not be replying to anything you say and couldn't give a fuck... I just had to have my 2 cents as CD has spent countless time helping me and many others, including a lot of the guys here... He's even continued to tolerate you far longer than I would have.

Grow up.

Oh, and I have one question for CD.... can you still drink alcohol when you're being a cunt on a forum?!? I really need to know!!!!1111oneone

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 02:05 PM
Haha, well. Good argument. Really good argument :-)
Listen Peter... You really don't seem to understand things too well.

I am not here to have really good arguments. I am so far past the arguing point on any of this stuff that it is just a complete waste of time.

Either get your shit in line or I'm going to send you packing. Do you understand?

We have all been giving you the benefit of the doubt despite your ridiculous and redundant questions.

But now that you're adding acting like a dick into the mix it's about as much as I can tolerate, and I can tolerate a lot. That's evident by the fact that you're still here.

Get it?



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PeterA
07-05-2017, 02:59 PM
Really, thats true what you guys say.
Really sorry for my arrogance. But I'm so fucked mental right now, that its difficult for me when its not going my way. And really, you guys don't know how much i appreciated all your help, its my life saver the few months.
You think I'm a alcoholic or so.... :-D
But no, not at all, when I'm back in my home country i don't drink that much.
But i love to go backpacking for months, and there you drink a lot, i always live on hostels and meet new people (and no its not the same without alcohol, not at all) and my worries is about that.
My biggest passion in life is traveling and just enjoy life, and now I'm scared about i never can do that again.... normally i could drink many days in a row, and still feel awesome. Still have sex the whole time and don't have all the bad and sad feelings.
And i think you misunderstood my post, i didn't mean that is strange with CB.
The thing that is strange in my opinion, is that you take 21 herbs, this is the part that make no sense for me CD.
When you are healed and live so healthy like you do, then it would really be strange if you need the herbs as well.

I hope i can do all this good again, and be a part of this whole thing and share my experiences with you guys.
Again, sorry for my arrogance.
And i will never come with the stupid questions again. Because i have learned, its fucking just stress me, i fuck my self up by thinking of that small details.

Best regards
Peter

Maxout777
07-05-2017, 03:38 PM
My dick falls off when I eat carbs. Especially before working out......usually lose my balls then as well. It's a shame. Damn it man...

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 03:55 PM
The thing that is strange in my opinion, is that you take 21 herbs, this is the part that make no sense for me CD.
When you are healed and live so healthy like you do, then it would really be strange if you need the herbs as well.


If and when you ever get to feel a fraction of what I feel on a daily basis, then consider yourself lucky.

I have come from the depths of utter hell and misery to the peak of feel and function, and there are no words to describe the unbelievable bliss and confidence I experience from day to day.

I feel like I have found the fountain of male youth and virility and I enjoy sharing and helping men experience the same. Aside from how I feel everyday, one of my favorite feelings is watching someone get the "ah ha moment and then experiencing everything exactly as I told them they would." I get a feeling of satisfaction that really can't be rivaled.

This isn't about just beating PFS. It's about becoming the best man you can possibly be. I can't imagine someone experiencing it and then not wanting to live it as much as they could.

To each their own.

I'm telling you now, and I'm not going to tell you again. You're going to be respectful of every member of this forum and stop asking questions that have answers plastered all over this forum and my website. This is the last time I'm telling you, and this is the end of this conversation.

PeterA
07-05-2017, 05:06 PM
If and when you ever get to feel a fraction of what I feel on a daily basis, then consider yourself lucky.

I have come from the depths of utter hell and misery to the peak of feel and function, and there are no words to describe the unbelievable bliss and confidence I experience from day to day.

I feel like I have found the fountain of male youth and virility and I enjoy sharing and helping men experience the same. Aside from how I feel everyday, one of my favorite feelings is watching someone get the "ah ha moment and then experiencing everything exactly as I told them they would." I get a feeling of satisfaction that really can't be rivaled.

This isn't about just beating PFS. It's about becoming the best man you can possibly be. I can't imagine someone experiencing it and then not wanting to live it as much as they could.

To each their own.

I'm telling you now, and I'm not going to tell you again. You're going to be respectful of every member of this forum and stop asking questions that have answers plastered all over this forum and my website. This is the last time I'm telling you, and this is the end of this conversation.

I promise you that.
I stress my self the whole time.
My thoughts are like "life would be so sweet now, if i never took that poison.." thats my biggest problem, the feeling of regret..
And a "bonus" is, i had a hair transplant, which i hate, that don't make this easier, two big things i regret.
Just because i was thinking to much about what other people thought about me and my hairloss..
Thats fucking stupid.
Do you have any tips for the "regret feeling".... I tried a psychologist, but it wasn't a help...

PeterA
07-05-2017, 05:29 PM
My plan is to take some 24 hours water fast sometimes.
Will i get some benefits of that?

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 06:54 PM
My plan is to take some 24 hours water fast sometimes.
Will i get some benefits of that?

I'm sorry Peter....this just isn't going to work.

You just said you were going to stop asking stupid, redundant questions, and in the same breath, you asked a stupid, redundant question.

I'm going to give you a weeks vacation to think about this. Next time, it's permanent.

Your questions litter the board needlessly, not to mention this post, which is my cycle post.

Cdsnuts
07-05-2017, 07:05 PM
So are you noticing any significant feel to the cycle yet? I'm about 3 1/2 weeks in on my Nor/4-Andro combo and size, vascularity, and strength are all making steady increases. One thing I've noticed over the last couple days is I have been a bit more emotional, not angry or ragey per se, more like mood swings. I'll monitor it some more and report back, could be anomalous, could be job related, could be the busy summer holiday or some combination of these factors. The 3 to 4 week mark is when things generally really kick in on DHEA derivatives so I'm anxious to see how things develop.

I've been noticing the "feel" of the cycle from the first couple days, believe it or not. I can typically feel the hormones from the first few doses. I can't say I feel any different mentally from the Nor added in, but physically I can feel a difference. My strength is through the roof and my appetite is just out of control.

I'm up about six pounds so far and I would probably be a bit higher had I started eating properly from the beginning. Overall, I'm enjoying it.

Are emotional issue something to be concerned with when it comes to the Nor?

biatch
07-06-2017, 01:35 AM
My dick falls off when I eat carbs. Especially before working out......usually lose my balls then as well. It's a shame. Damn it man...
Hi Max, what do you mean by saying that?
Does it mean you are still not recovered and have "dick problems" not functioning as it should? ...or I am misunderstanding something since english is not my first leanguage?
Please let me know, cause I want to understand better your situation since you told everything was going great and you were basically recovered.
Thanks

Swill
07-06-2017, 02:31 AM
Don't panic biatch, it was just sarcasm, which got lost in translation. Maxout is recovered and doing great.

#prayformaxoutsmanhood

Anyway, back to the topic, which is CD's cycle...


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rahaysa
07-06-2017, 02:32 AM
I'm sorry Peter....this just isn't going to work.

You just said you were going to stop asking stupid, redundant questions, and in the same breath, you asked a stupid, redundant question.

I'm going to give you a weeks vacation to think about this. Next time, it's permanent.

Your questions litter the board needlessly, not to mention this post, which is my cycle post.

i know this is off topic... but i seriously cant think why some people instead of doing the right thing some people did to achieve something and get cured,
go on to find faults , exceptions and truthfulness of the person/people who are cured and trying to help others ...

completely insane... its simple if somebody has doubts they can try it before discrediting the user...

this shitty mentality is the biggest reason why people wont get better...

biatch
07-06-2017, 02:40 AM
Don't panic biatch, it was just sarcasm, which got lost in translation. Maxout is recovered and doing great.

#prayformaxoutsmanhood

Anyway, back to the topic, which is CD's cycle...


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Oh... ok, I am sorry, I didn't get it!
Thank you for clarification Swill and sorry to interrupt CD's topic....
I am so sensitive theese days...LOL

Strong_Guy_
07-06-2017, 06:52 AM
I've been noticing the "feel" of the cycle from the first couple days, believe it or not. I can typically feel the hormones from the first few doses. I can't say I feel any different mentally from the Nor added in, but physically I can feel a difference. My strength is through the roof and my appetite is just out of control.

I'm up about six pounds so far and I would probably be a bit higher had I started eating properly from the beginning. Overall, I'm enjoying it.

Are emotional issue something to be concerned with when it comes to the Nor?

I usually experience something similar when starting a cycle of andros, I'll experience an initial abrupt spike from the hormones within the first seek then things plateau for a couple weeks before really kicking in at about the 3-4 week mark.

Nor Andro should in theory have little to no side effects, including anything mental/emotional since it has such low androgenic/estrogenic activity. I usually have the mood swing tendencies on DHT prohormones, especially epiandro. I'm going to just chalk it up to life circumstances right now.

Diet is playing a big part for me too now, I'm eating extremely clean and getting about 200 grams of protein per day but calories are staying only slightly above maintenance. I've only gained a few pounds so far but am definitely looking more solid and dense. This Nor is good stuff, I look forward to exploring it further to it's fullest extent. I' still debating about picking up son Alpha Gainz Nor TD from So-Cal and experiment with some topical application during this run.

Cdsnuts
07-06-2017, 07:36 AM
I usually experience something similar when starting a cycle of andros, I'll experience an initial abrupt spike from the hormones within the first seek then things plateau for a couple weeks before really kicking in at about the 3-4 week mark.

Nor Andro should in theory have little to no side effects, including anything mental/emotional since it has such low androgenic/estrogenic activity. I usually have the mood swing tendencies on DHT prohormones, especially epiandro. I'm going to just chalk it up to life circumstances right now.

Diet is playing a big part for me too now, I'm eating extremely clean and getting about 200 grams of protein per day but calories are staying only slightly above maintenance. I've only gained a few pounds so far but am definitely looking more solid and dense. This Nor is good stuff, I look forward to exploring it further to it's fullest extent. I' still debating about picking up son Alpha Gainz Nor TD from So-Cal and experiment with some topical application during this run.

Are you logging this at all?

Pics?

Strong_Guy_
07-06-2017, 10:31 AM
Are you logging this at all?

Pics?

I'm terrible with logs, working two jobs and shift work at that makes it difficult along with just busy life in general. I didn't get any true before pics but I may take some now even though I'm a few weeks in, and then take some at the end. I've still got about two months left for plenty of growth.

Cdsnuts
08-16-2017, 09:39 PM
Post cycle pics about three maybe four weeks off. Things held nicely and I continue to progress

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Cdsnuts
08-16-2017, 09:40 PM
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Cdsnuts
08-16-2017, 09:45 PM
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Cdsnuts
08-16-2017, 09:49 PM
Powered by herbs.....

K8668B
08-17-2017, 07:04 AM
Definitely leaner in all areas. I can see it. I remember the original pics too. Nice.

TubZy
08-22-2017, 10:42 PM
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Nice man, looking solid.

off topic, but did you get HT/FUE?

Cdsnuts
08-23-2017, 06:11 AM
Nice man, looking solid.

off topic, but did you get HT/FUE?

Yup....several.

Ironic...I went from being so paranoid about my hair falling out and how I would look, that I went through all of this torture and money, only to completely lose myself along the way. Now I walk around with a huge fucking scar across my head and don't give one, single, fuck.

If I would have just manned up all those years ago, I could have saved myself from a world of agony and lost production.

Funny how life teaches you lessons, regardless of how brutal they are.