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xxLUK
02-13-2019, 06:28 PM
theres a girl ive been seeing lately and things are getting more intimate. i havent had sex/head in like almost 3 years so im quite nervous in this comprimised state, i used to be nervous even before pfs so this may be tricky.

any advice guys? before i used to just try to think in the moment and suck on her tits/foreplay for like an hour to just get in the zone then id stick my dick in her, but idk i feel way different nowadays.

i cant do cialus/viagra they make me feel bad, bad sides

all advice is welcome

Aztec
02-13-2019, 06:47 PM
Do some deep breathing and a cold shower before visiting her and go for it. There is nothing to fear. Also, don’t skip your herb for the day.

xxLUK
02-13-2019, 06:55 PM
Do some deep breathing and a cold shower before visiting her and go for it. There is nothing to fear. Also, don’t skip your herb for the day.

thanks bro, i appreciate it. ive had several situations that resulted in being limp and its really one of the worst feelings. also welcome to the forum :D

Master Mal
02-13-2019, 10:06 PM
If I'm really worried, I do a pump that day and I doubled up on Tribulus/Longjack before the date. I went two rounds with a three minute break in between and realized I had nothing to be scared about.

Might be worth giving a shot.

RickTheRuler
02-13-2019, 11:30 PM
Here comes a long detailed answer cause I love my brain and how it just fires out ideas in the night.

Pump session, cold shower, phenibut to chill out + herb combinations at higher doses..The days I have sex I play with it. I usually take a way bigger than usual dose of pine pollen, take tonkgat, tribulus, Horny goat weed etc. (basically what Mal said)

I do that but also take low dose Viagra just to be 120% sure, even if I feel good...I’ve had sex the next day after though and based on how the drug works it’s out the system by then so that’s all me. I know you can’t take PDE5’s though ..

It’s deff a mind & relaxation thing too.
foreplay is a must, you have to really zero in on pleasing the girl & take focus off of you. It all works out.. I notice for me actual penetration is at most like 5-7 minutes, it’s just that all the other things makes it seem like an hour..

Try not to worry...Women don’t think or perceive things like us at all, I don’t mean it in a bad way.. they’re just different than us,you have to remember that too. It’s more about the whole experience and living in the moment for them.The way they look at sex is different than us.

& as far as performance, don’t worry about that too, a lot of the times how much she enjoys sex is not based on physical things like size or how rock hard you are, it’s all on your vibe with it and how high her interest level is in you... basically you’re acting like a man through it all with confidence and she’s digging you..
There are guys who pack crazy wood & even fuck well that can’t rock a girls world like a guy whose equipment or even fuck game isn’t on his level cause she digs him more for whatever reason, maybe his game is better, or makes her feel like woman, or timing, or the mood..theres just so many factors to it, it’s not clear cut like how we think . It’s why they so damn complicated lol.

Ofcourse I wish I had a foot long rod like a pornstar though, wouldn’t hurt..

Us guys always fall into the thing where we project our Male thinking patterns onto women and assume that they are thinking and experiencing things like us males do.They are wired different. A lot of the shit we get concerned about, they don’t care about.. the way a man loves vs the way a woman loves is two different things (Patrice O Neal)..again I’m generalizing, but that’s my experience for the most part.. I hate to sound like a know it all cause I’m younger than you & I really don’t known shit lol

You got it..



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xxLUK
02-14-2019, 02:52 AM
RickTheRuler yo thank you bro, really appreciate everything you wrote out, i did all those things, waiting for her to come over. i double dosed schisandra and took a half dose of rhodiola. ill definitely focus on foreplay/pleasing her.

and that is sooo true, we do tend to project our masculine minds onto them thinking they perceive the situation in the same way which they totally dont. its an entire process for them, its the vibe/atmosphere for them, i havent dated/courted a girl in so long im only just realizing that again.

xxLUK
02-23-2019, 12:45 AM
update guys, at the start i was concerned about erection quality/not being hard enough to maintain an erection for a condom (i experienced that in the past) she didnt want to give me head, so for a few days she'd just jack me off to completion which went well

then after that, i fucked her with no condom for maybe 3 pumps and pulled out, didnt last long (maybe like 5-10 seconds) but it was a confidence booster.

a few days after that i started fucking her with condoms, and i kept doing it.

i finally broke my performance anxiety, im really pleased and broke my dry spell of like 3 years. everyones advice in this thread helped a lot. she is a gorgeous girl, but unfortunately shes left the country today. she was only here for a short time, so im heartbroken. id say the biggest thing that helped me was foreplay and being comfortable with her. focusing on foreplay is crucial and the comfort factor is a must. a girl who doesnt put much pressure on you is the best

(no viagra, or cialus was used in this. only supplements i was using was rhodiola, schisandra) i noticed my erection quality went wayy up when i stopped using digestive enzymes, there must be something in those that mess with my sex drive/EQ

Cdsnuts
02-23-2019, 02:37 AM
update guys, at the start i was concerned about erection quality/not being hard enough to maintain an erection for a condom (i experienced that in the past) she didnt want to give me head, so for a few days she'd just jack me off to completion which went well

then after that, i fucked her with no condom for maybe 3 pumps and pulled out, didnt last long (maybe like 5-10 seconds) but it was a confidence booster.

a few days after that i started fucking her with condoms, and i kept doing it.

i finally broke my performance anxiety, im really pleased and broke my dry spell of like 3 years. everyones advice in this thread helped a lot. she is a gorgeous girl, but unfortunately shes left the country today. she was only here for a short time, so im heartbroken. id say the biggest thing that helped me was foreplay and being comfortable with her. focusing on foreplay is crucial and the comfort factor is a must. a girl who doesnt put much pressure on you is the best

(no viagra, or cialus was used in this. only supplements i was using was rhodiola, schisandra) i noticed my erection quality went wayy up when i stopped using digestive enzymes, there must be something in those that mess with my sex drive/EQ

Good on you man.

The mind fuck is the hardest part to break. Once you've reclaimed that, you have nothing to worry about.

Keep pushing.

Holistic
02-24-2019, 04:37 PM
Congratulations brother

SS7
02-25-2019, 03:24 AM
Nicely done!

xxLUK
03-06-2019, 12:37 AM
i appreciate all of the congrats from you guys, i also wanted to note. i was drinking alcohol and even eating junk food those days too and i still managed to keep it up, so its pretty good :D

xxLUK
03-08-2019, 02:53 PM
hey guys i just fucked another girl and this was on 1 of those zero libido days with bad erection quality

i was 60-70% hard id say, so was a bit pliable

she was jerking me off and i didnt think itd get anywhere, i thought "its gonna be one of those nights where i hangup the towel" but i figured lets see how far we can take this.

she asked about a condom, so i asked her to keep jerking me off while i put the condom on to keep maintanance and it worked, then i asked her to guide my dick into her puss for me (i think this is crucial) i notice i typically panic if i try to stick it in my self, a girl knows her body better than me so it's just easier for me if she puts it in for me. i struggled a bit to get it in a few times, but once it was in it was good.

i didn't last that long considering the zero libido days/low eq days i typically have premature ejac.

but it was a good experience to understand even on those days, i can still perform. just giving some motivation/inspiration for all you dudes who think you can't have sex in a pfs state. this was a PFS state, the other times i had sex my member was hard and lasted longer

Cdsnuts
03-28-2019, 06:43 PM
hey guys i just fucked another girl and this was on 1 of those zero libido days with bad erection quality

i was 60-70% hard id say, so was a bit pliable

she was jerking me off and i didnt think itd get anywhere, i thought "its gonna be one of those nights where i hangup the towel" but i figured lets see how far we can take this.

she asked about a condom, so i asked her to keep jerking me off while i put the condom on to keep maintanance and it worked, then i asked her to guide my dick into her puss for me (i think this is crucial) i notice i typically panic if i try to stick it in my self, a girl knows her body better than me so it's just easier for me if she puts it in for me. i struggled a bit to get it in a few times, but once it was in it was good.

i didn't last that long considering the zero libido days/low eq days i typically have premature ejac.

but it was a good experience to understand even on those days, i can still perform. just giving some motivation/inspiration for all you dudes who think you can't have sex in a pfs state. this was a PFS state, the other times i had sex my member was hard and lasted longer

Some good advice in this post. Thanks for sharing. Having her guide you in is a very smart idea for all the reasons you mention, It gets the woman more involved, some women think it's sexy to do so and it saves you from frantically trying to jam it in all while worrying you're not going to get it in on time. Nice job. For PFS guys this is a great tip.

Just being with a woman is healthy for your returning sex drive. It seems you have no trouble getting them, so hell yeah man, just keep knocking them down like there is nothing wrong.

How long you been doing this LUK? Been awhile, no? You been flip flopping on and off, huh?

xxLUK
03-29-2019, 04:02 AM
Some good advice in this post. Thanks for sharing. Having her guide you in is a very smart idea for all the reasons you mention, It gets the woman more involved, some women think it's sexy to do so and it saves you from frantically trying to jam it in all while worrying you're not going to get it in on time. Nice job. For PFS guys this is a great tip.

Just being with a woman is healthy for your returning sex drive. It seems you have no trouble getting them, so hell yeah man, just keep knocking them down like there is nothing wrong.

How long you been doing this LUK? Been awhile, no? You been flip flopping on and off, huh?

how long have i been actively pulling girls or dealing with pfs?
i just started doing pickup where i just meet girls on the street in the city, do a few dates then fuck them. i prefer it to tinder tbh, tinder is so fickle and fleeting.

only recently started to try getting girls after a 3 year long stint with pfs, its easier than i thought itd be. got sick of jacking off when i have all the things a man needs to attract a woman, so figured id take the plunge. i hope this post is enough proof for guys with heaps of performance anxiety

Cdsnuts
03-29-2019, 11:24 AM
how long have i been actively pulling girls or dealing with pfs?
i just started doing pickup where i just meet girls on the street in the city, do a few dates then fuck them. i prefer it to tinder tbh, tinder is so fickle and fleeting.

only recently started to try getting girls after a 3 year long stint with pfs, its easier than i thought itd be. got sick of jacking off when i have all the things a man needs to attract a woman, so figured id take the plunge. i hope this post is enough proof for guys with heaps of performance anxiety

How long have you been on the protocol?

I agree. I prefer the old school way of meeting women over using dating apps.

But yeah, sex is always a better option then masturbation for a variety of reasons. And you're correct. It's easier then most guys think. If you have any semblance of a personality, you just have to talk....lol. Nature takes care of the rest. Most guys just need to get out of their own way, out of their heads and just go for it. Great way to build confidence as well.

RickTheRuler
03-29-2019, 01:58 PM
How long have you been on the protocol?

I agree. I prefer the old school way of meeting women over using dating apps.

But yeah, sex is always a better option then masturbation for a variety of reasons. And you're correct. It's easier then most guys think. If you have any semblance of a personality, you just have to talk....lol. Nature takes care of the rest. Most guys just need to get out of their own way, out of their heads and just go for it. Great way to build confidence as well.

I do alright with the ladies but I’m gonna PM you about women stuff sir. Cause Alright ain’t good enough.


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Cdsnuts
03-29-2019, 03:33 PM
I do alright with the ladies but I’m gonna PM you about women stuff sir. Cause Alright ain’t good enough.


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Feel free brother.

I was actually thinking about a small subsection where these things can be talked about openly for the benefit of everyone.

After being out of commission for so long, I think it would be helpful to get guys out there and hunting again so that they can use their new found vitality. I'm open to suggestion here.....what do you guys think?

RickTheRuler
03-29-2019, 04:43 PM
Feel free brother.

I was actually thinking about a small subsection where these things can be talked about openly for the benefit of everyone.

After being out of commission for so long, I think it would be helpful to get guys out there and hunting again so that they can use their new found vitality. I'm open to suggestion here.....what do you guys think?

Cool bro. I already sent it.

& Seems like a good idea. This is all about self improvement anyway. so why not


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xxLUK
03-29-2019, 05:18 PM
How long have you been on the protocol?

I agree. I prefer the old school way of meeting women over using dating apps.

But yeah, sex is always a better option then masturbation for a variety of reasons. And you're correct. It's easier then most guys think. If you have any semblance of a personality, you just have to talk....lol. Nature takes care of the rest. Most guys just need to get out of their own way, out of their heads and just go for it. Great way to build confidence as well.

ive been on the protocol on and off, ive had to tweak it a bit cause ive run into different issues like gallbladder issues and crashes from diff things. im still searching for things my body allow me to tolerate.

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Feel free brother.

I was actually thinking about a small subsection where these things can be talked about openly for the benefit of everyone.

After being out of commission for so long, I think it would be helpful to get guys out there and hunting again so that they can use their new found vitality. I'm open to suggestion here.....what do you guys think?

yes that'd be extremely helpful for guys coming out of a hiatus from women. i personally know howmuch anxiety/difficult it is to get back to being physical with a woman after years of not doing it. great idea

Cdsnuts
03-30-2019, 12:12 PM
ive been on the protocol on and off, ive had to tweak it a bit cause ive run into different issues like gallbladder issues and crashes from diff things. im still searching for things my body allow me to tolerate.

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yes that'd be extremely helpful for guys coming out of a hiatus from women. i personally know howmuch anxiety/difficult it is to get back to being physical with a woman after years of not doing it. great idea

That's what I thought. What things are you leaving out? What things did you crash from? Let's work it out. You've been here long enough bro....it's time.

Don't take that the wrong way at all. Not being a dick, just think it's time you put this shit to bed once and for all.....no?

xxLUK
03-30-2019, 03:01 PM
That's what I thought. What things are you leaving out? What things did you crash from? Let's work it out. You've been here long enough bro....it's time.

Don't take that the wrong way at all. Not being a dick, just think it's time you put this shit to bed once and for all.....no?

yeah dude, im not taking it the wrong way at all ur completely right lmao.

so basically i was on a ketogenic diet for a year, almonds/beef/salmon/berries, it was a very restrictive diet.

i felt my best on it, i had sex drive, thought better, better energy etc. i took tumeric with black pepper and i crashed. all my pfs symptoms came back with full force and i felt shit again, i tried my ketogenic diet but it didnt help at all

nothing was helping, i was learning about coffee enemas so i tried that. after 2 coffee enemas, i got a surge of sex drive, felt so much emotion and vigor again. whilst eating normal food like fried rice etc

so that was going on, i figured i wanted to get back on a clean diet and heal my self whilst doing coffee enemas to cure my self.

so i tried to get on beef with animal fat, and i started feeling depressed, dick would shrivel up from fats. no matter what fat i tried, i felt terrible,listless, bored. so i learnt it was a gallbladder problem from my research.

so where am i right now? im eating white rice and idk what to eat for a protein source because beef makes me feel shitty and gives me diaria. so does lamb. so im going to try fish or shellfish for a protein source while this is going on.

most vegetables give a terrible feeling/rashes all over my face/body. im in a very sensitive state, so im doing coffee enemas daily atm to try flush my system out.

so that's where im at currently mate. all feedback is welcomed

Cdsnuts
03-31-2019, 05:42 PM
yeah dude, im not taking it the wrong way at all ur completely right lmao.

so basically i was on a ketogenic diet for a year, almonds/beef/salmon/berries, it was a very restrictive diet.

i felt my best on it, i had sex drive, thought better, better energy etc. i took tumeric with black pepper and i crashed. all my pfs symptoms came back with full force and i felt shit again, i tried my ketogenic diet but it didnt help at all

nothing was helping, i was learning about coffee enemas so i tried that. after 2 coffee enemas, i got a surge of sex drive, felt so much emotion and vigor again. whilst eating normal food like fried rice etc

so that was going on, i figured i wanted to get back on a clean diet and heal my self whilst doing coffee enemas to cure my self.

so i tried to get on beef with animal fat, and i started feeling depressed, dick would shrivel up from fats. no matter what fat i tried, i felt terrible,listless, bored. so i learnt it was a gallbladder problem from my research.

so where am i right now? im eating white rice and idk what to eat for a protein source because beef makes me feel shitty and gives me diaria. so does lamb. so im going to try fish or shellfish for a protein source while this is going on.

most vegetables give a terrible feeling/rashes all over my face/body. im in a very sensitive state, so im doing coffee enemas daily atm to try flush my system out.

so that's where im at currently mate. all feedback is welcomed

My man.....FOLLOW THE PROGRAM.....lol.

Do the damn thing exactly as outlined. It's really that simple. It's not easy, but it's simple. Stop wasting time. You would have been a year in at this point had you just stuck it out.

You need to cleanse from the sounds of it. Juice feast or preferably, a water fast. Start from the beginning and work your way though.

That's the only feedback you need. If you need help walking through it, you have this resource at your disposal. USE IT.

Maxout777
04-01-2019, 06:10 PM
yeah dude, im not taking it the wrong way at all ur completely right lmao.

so basically i was on a ketogenic diet for a year, almonds/beef/salmon/berries, it was a very restrictive diet.

i felt my best on it, i had sex drive, thought better, better energy etc. i took tumeric with black pepper and i crashed. all my pfs symptoms came back with full force and i felt shit again, i tried my ketogenic diet but it didnt help at all

nothing was helping, i was learning about coffee enemas so i tried that. after 2 coffee enemas, i got a surge of sex drive, felt so much emotion and vigor again. whilst eating normal food like fried rice etc

so that was going on, i figured i wanted to get back on a clean diet and heal my self whilst doing coffee enemas to cure my self.

so i tried to get on beef with animal fat, and i started feeling depressed, dick would shrivel up from fats. no matter what fat i tried, i felt terrible,listless, bored. so i learnt it was a gallbladder problem from my research.

so where am i right now? im eating white rice and idk what to eat for a protein source because beef makes me feel shitty and gives me diaria. so does lamb. so im going to try fish or shellfish for a protein source while this is going on.

most vegetables give a terrible feeling/rashes all over my face/body. im in a very sensitive state, so im doing coffee enemas daily atm to try flush my system out.

so that's where im at currently mate. all feedback is welcomed

This sounds like a classic example of the “kitchen sink” method.

More is not always better.....stick to a path. Combining two protocols is worse than running only one, in most cases.

Cdsnuts
04-03-2019, 01:19 PM
This sounds like a classic example of the “kitchen sink” method.

More is not always better.....stick to a path. Combining two protocols is worse than running only one, in most cases.

Agreed. We've all heard the saying too many chef's ruin the soup. You need to pick one and stick with it.

xxLUK
05-18-2019, 05:57 AM
agreed lads^ im striping back and doing the basics, (what u prescribe)

just had sex successfully with another girl this time, was another zero libido/low EQ day. but ive been taking l-arginine, it makes it so my erections dont go down. no matter how nervous/unturned on i am. its great. i take 4grams of it daily.
i even lost my cool/got nervous, it still remained up. so not so bad boys.