Weekend's Test-E Cycle

[weekend]

Cycle Info:

Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/wk weeks 1-14
Anavar 40 mg weeks 12-16
Proviron 50 mg/day weeks 6-16
hCG ~350 iu eod k weeks 2-16
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Letro on hand

PCT:

Clomid 75/50/50/50/50/25/
Endoamp
Toco8
Sustain Alpha

Supports/Supps:
Toco-8 2nd half of cycle through PCT
Fish Oil 1 tbsp/day
Creatine HCL
C-O-P
Beta-Alanine
Liver Juice While Running Anavar


Stats:
23 years old
5'11
Bodyfat looks around 10%
175 lbs +/- 3
Bench Max: 245
Squat Max (Ass to Grass): 315
Deadlift Max: 385
Barbell Row for a few strict: 185
Dips: +60lb for reps
Pull-ups: +45lb for reps


Some info about the bloods: Was dehydrated for the blood test. Had just woken up, had stomach flu a week ago. Finished showing symptoms 5 days prior to test. Also weed... ~5x/week (out of a volcano mostly)

BIG thanks to DJM, Burly, Infamy, Rodja, BigBlackGuy, heretostudy, Coolazice and a few others in helping me plan this cycle. Though I received a lot of conflicting information lol.

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Pre-Cycle Bloods:

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Pre-Cycle Pics

Unfortunately this forum won't allow larger pictures?

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More Pre-Cycle

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[Scope75]

I'm in for this one!!
Oh and clean your room .. Lol

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Day 58 Update:

Weight is now at 202 lb, and has been as high as 205. This is a gain of about 30 lbs.

Lifts have increased a lot, haven't gone much heavier but for example my bench press 1RM was 245, and I haven't tried to go higher but hit it for 7 clean reps this week.

Barbell row up to 225 for a few clean reps. (Major cycle goal there)
Overhead press is now at 145 for 3 reps, coming from like 115 i think.
Squat is up to 285.
Haven't increased weight on deadlifts because at 385 form wasn't that good, but i hit that for 3 sets of 8 now instead of 2 reps lol.

Weight added to dips and pullups is same despite huge weight gain.

Appetite is huge. Libido is not as strong as in the beginning, but still strong.

Taking my 18th injection after leg workout today, finishing off my 2nd vial of 3. So I'm about 2/3 done.

Since I felt pretty heavy and like gains were starting to stagnate a little, I'm cutting with a very high protein diet for a few days (~10). I gained about 3% bodyfat so far, even though i was consuming MASSIVE amounts of food. Figure if i cut for a little bit it will remove a lot of the fat gain and help resensitize the muscles to food. I'm sure insulin resistance was getting higher because i ate a TON of JUNK to get my calories in. Like, burgers almost every day. Ate a lot of clean foods too, but sometimes i just can't get the calories without dirty fatty foods.

All in all, i'm where i thought i'd be at the end lol so this is pretty cool. Definitely a smooth ride, Test-E is.

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I'm in for this one!!
Oh and clean your room .. Lol

that's my girls room hah, i'm actually somewhat of a neat freak.

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ALSO, just slin pinned .5 mL into my left bicep.

I have pinned mostly quads and shoulders and noticed DEFINITE localized growth. So, why not help that left arm catch up a little!

Gonna put .7 mL into my right glute though after training today to finish off this vial. Little extra today.

That was my first slin pin experience and i didn't support my arm while i did it which was a mistake, definitely shook the needle around. hoping pip isn't too bad.

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Here's a pic from week 3, i had gained about 12 lbs by this point.

i'll get more pics up later

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[naeydrin]

IN for the end of your ride:) nice improvements on lifts.

[Scope75]

Chest, arms, and shoulders look way fuller!!!

I can't wait to run some Test E!!!

[BoneDaddy]

Nice. What have you been using before that 1st slin pin? 1st cycle also?

[O_RYAN_007]

nice gains buddy!

[h2s]

Great condition. Good luck.

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my cycle history is:

AHv1 with phytotest. (I don't wanna slander PP, but I think at least my batch of AHv1 might have been adulterated with a methyl. Legs got covered in stretch marks, gained 15 lbs without changing diet, same thing happened to my friend without the stretchmarks.) My balls shrunk off this more than my next cycle...

AHv3 and ABv3 6 each for 8 weeks, but with another half bottle of AH starting one week before the bulk and 2 week after. (total time on was like 10.5 weeks) This version of AH made my joints hurt and showed signs of low estro, but there was no instant weight gain like v1. I never mentioned this before haha, but this is why i thought AHv1 might have had like 5 mg superdrol or my batch was mislabeled turinabol or something. Gained 30 lbs on this cycle but never gained any weight when only on hard, just when bulk was involved. Significant shrinkage there.

Anyway, I'm using 25 gauge 1 inchers for all my other pins. Drawing with 22's.

Bought some 20's for drawing and tried that for my last shot of the 2nd vial.. it ate a hole in the stopper.

[Scope75]

I wish I would have got a tainted bottle of AHv1!!
That'd be like 2-3 cycles of Tbol or a lifetime of SD. Lol

[VayneZ]

Weekend I had no idea you were running a cycle! Good thing I got a bit bored and cruised the forum and found this on time!

You have exactly what I wish I had!!! A sick shredded body!!!! I'm in to see it get pumped and swoled!!

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thanks for the compliments guys.

on the other hand though, they say you respond best to your first exposure to hormones. obviously test-e has been better than PP's prohormones so far, but if it really was just AH in there maybe that makes sense. just dont see why my legs would EXPLODE with gains and i would get such shrinkage in only 5.5 weeks.

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I wish I would have got a tainted bottle of AHv1!!
That'd be like 2-3 cycles of Tbol or a lifetime of SD. Lol

i think it still had the AH in it, not 500 mg per dose of some methyl lol. just maybe with somethin else added in. or like it was just turinabol and they switched the liquid on accident or something.

[Scope75]

Still a sweet deal!! Lol
If it was tainted I'm glad you didn't get screwed up any.

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the PIP in my bicep is pretty annoying... probably not worth another attempt lol

[Scope75]

What gauge and length needle did you use for the bicep injection?

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29g 1/2 inch haha

[O_RYAN_007]

29g 1/2 inch haha

Why aren't you just using these needles instead of the 25s?

[DJM]

Why aren't you just using these needles instead of the 25s?
exactly

[BBG]

Might be missing something but you're only using Test E right (plus orals)? Why are you injecting into biceps?

[Coolazice]

Might be missing something but you're only using Test E right (plus orals)? Why are you injecting into biceps?

I was wondering the same thing, but just assumed it was an experiment.

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yea im just using test e. lol i had 1.3 ml left in a vial and i was like fuck it, i'll put some of this in my left bi. i've noticed localized growth in quads and delts so far, and my left bi is smaller than my right. probably won't do it again, pip was really annoying.

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Why aren't you just using these needles instead of the 25s?

well, id have to do multiple injections each time, and backloading seems sloppy and tedious. i don't mind the 25s at all. might slin my shoulders tho

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oh and honestly, its almost been a week and so the swelling is down. it does seem like my left bi caught up a little haha. measurement is closer.

16 1/4 left", 16 4/5" right lol (cold right now). the left was only 16 cold last week.

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well im up 33 lbs since the start now. at 208 in the morning. started at 175.

how much water weight will i lose during PCT?

probably will take pictures before var and after to see what that does with definition and such.

pretty satisfying cycle so far, don't want it to end lol

worst thing that's happened is i've been getting heartburn all the time for the last week... its been limiting me to maintenance calories and i know i can definitely gain more if i just could get more food down... abs still look decent.

about 3 weeks of injections left!

[Scope75]

Up 33!!! DAMN!!!
And with abs that still look good..
Sounds like a sick ass cycle!!!


Reading this kind of stuff make it to where I can't wait to run my test, dbol, and var cycle!!!

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Also interested in seeing what var does for you..
What dose and for how many weeks??

[TurkeyVulture]

Wow, you respond very well to hormones! so far you have gained 75lbs from just short of 3 cycles? holy fuck.

Im on week 3 of a test e 500mg a week 12 weeks and im going to run anavar at 60mg for weeks 6-14.. Im only up about 5lbs but i have to get my AI dialed in as im feeling tired and losing libido. Ive been taking .5 eod adex and im going to tune it down to .25 from now on to see if it helps.

Lets see some new pics! Good job man, inspiring.

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Up 33!!! DAMN!!!
And with abs that still look good..
Sounds like a sick ass cycle!!!


Reading this kind of stuff make it to where I can't wait to run my test, dbol, and var cycle!!!

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Also interested in seeing what var does for you..
What dose and for how many weeks??

Decent, not good lol

40 mg for only 4 weeks. Just wanted to test the waters with var as well as have something running right up to the start of pct. the idea of a drawn out come down sounds lame to me. Come up has to be more
Fun lol

[Scope75]

Decent, not good lol

40 mg for only 4 weeks. Just wanted to test the waters with var as well as have something running right up to the start of pct. the idea of a drawn out come down sounds lame to me. Come up has to be more
Fun lol
I don't even have abs so decent is good to me. Lol
Post up some before and afters when you run the var b ause it should be a good test for it and your leanness should really make it shine.

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Wow, you respond very well to hormones! so far you have gained 75lbs from just short of 3 cycles? holy fuck.

Im on week 3 of a test e 500mg a week 12 weeks and im going to run anavar at 60mg for weeks 6-14.. Im only up about 5lbs but i have to get my AI dialed in as im feeling tired and losing libido. Ive been taking .5 eod adex and im going to tune it down to .25 from now on to see if it helps.

Lets see some new pics! Good job man, inspiring.

Hah no no! I gained that much but on androbulk I lost all the weight I gained after I cut. Started this cycle at the exact same weight as my androbulk/hard cycle. Started with AH at 155 lb.

Started lifting 6 years ago at 118 lb. so a 90 lb gain as of today.

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Here's a pic from week 3, i had gained about 12 lbs by this point.

i'll get more pics up later



I don't know how I missed this thread for 3 weeks.

looking good, great progress. get some more pics up.

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Alright guys, ill post some update pics this weekend but...

My chest, legs, shoulders and back have grown quite a bit! But my arms are still lagging... In the last days of my cycle, does anyone have any advice to blow them the fuck up?

[Scope75]

No help with the bicep workout but how many pounds are you currently up right now??
Last I read it was 35 and you wanted to hit 40 before the run was over.

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No help with the bicep workout but how many pounds are you currently up right now??
Last I read it was 35 and you wanted to hit 40 before the run was over.

I'm up 37 now, 3 shots left I hope I can do it! Unfortunately I was lazy and didn't take pre var pics and started var 5 days ago. But I'll get my girl to take some Friday. Once I'm tapering off the test I'm gonna eat really clean and try to drop bodyfat I gained to make PCT easier.

[DJM]

Alright guys, ill post some update pics this weekend but...

My chest, legs, shoulders and back have grown quite a bit! But my arms are still lagging... In the last days of my cycle, does anyone have any advice to blow them the fuck up?

arm day

ez curl
hammer curl
preacher curl
french press
db overhead
rope pulldown

12-15 reps 4 sets each

[Scope75]

I'm up 37 now, 3 shots left I hope I can do it! Unfortunately I was lazy and didn't take pre var pics and started var 5 days ago. But I'll get my girl to take some Friday. Once I'm tapering off the test I'm gonna eat really clean and try to drop bodyfat I gained to make PCT easier.

You got it bro!!!
I was just going to ask how's the var treating you and how's the pumps??

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You got it bro!!!
I was just going to ask how's the var treating you and how's the pumps??

I dunno, pumps haven't felt as crazy as I'm not gaining as rapidly. Biggest thing I've noticed is strength gains are coming fast. Got 255 lb bench for 10 reps. Squatted 315 ass to grass yesterday with perfect form for 2 sets of 5, really good for me.

I'm also recharging between sets really well, like damn that set was hard and normally I wouldn't be able to match the reps but then I can again.

[Scope75]

Your doseing the var at 40 or 50 and how much pre workout?

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Dosing at 30 right now, 10 am 10 prewo 10 prebed, will up to 20 prewo in a few days.

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Another thing to mention, I haven't been getting hungry at all... Like every meal basically I'm like... Time to eat I'm not hungry! But still eating enough to gain slowly.

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an arm day in week 11.

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var is giving me night sweats and vivid dreams at 40 mg, had nightmares last night all night which were remarkably scary but also entertaining rather than uncomfortable. pretty sure it's the var for some reason. makes my joints feel great though, and strength is climbing a little bit.

[Scope75]

var is giving me night sweats and vivid dreams at 40 mg, had nightmares last night all night which were remarkably scary but also entertaining rather than uncomfortable. pretty sure it's the var for some reason. makes my joints feel great though, and strength is climbing a little bit.
Damn I hate night sweats!!!
Love vivd dreams thou.
Sounds like your digging the var other than the night sweats, and I'm interested in hearing how your like more pre workout.

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tried 30 mg preworkout twice. honestly not a huge difference but i do notice some effects with regards to intra-workout recovery and definitely felt different in my head, was feeling pretty normal on the test but now i feel more boosted again. nothing crazy though.

[Scope75]

Nice...
Recovery and strength will be nice at the end of a long cycle and a little extra boost is always good.
I think I'll pick up some more var and try it out at different doses at different times to see what works best.

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I don't have enough but it seems like it would be off the chain at 80 mg..

[Scope75]

60-80 is what I was thinking.
Sure wish Var wasn't so damn expensive.

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Probably should just run low dose prop and high dose ace...

[Scope75]

Probably should just run low dose prop and high dose ace...

To much pinning for me.

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slin pinning is a bit of a hassle... but it basically feels like you didn't pin lol

[Scope75]

slin pinning is a bit of a hassle... but it basically feels like you didn't pin lol

Only thing ill be using slin pins for is HCG. Lol
Having to pin everyday just won't work for me because I never know when I won't be home for 2-3 days and I don't want to be out and about with my gear.
But I'm always home Monday and Thursday.

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444 today, 206 lb

[Coolazice]

Nice work!!! :cool:

[O_RYAN_007]

Looking great man!

[Scope75]

Damn good work!!
Looking big and lean!!

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Just took my last shot of test! Bittersweet... Mostly bitter

[Scope75]

Don't you still have 2 weeks worth of Var??

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15 days at 40 mg. and proviron little more than that at 50. Might run 25 prov for the first week of pct.

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forgot to mention... pinned .15 mL of test e subQ 3 days ago... turned into a big knot. must be too high of a concentration or something haha, i don't recommend that shit ever.

(yes i was just curious)

[O_RYAN_007]

15 days at 40 mg. and proviron little more than that at 50. Might run 25 prov for the first week of pct.

So you stopped the test at wk 12, but will continued with the pro and var till wk 14 correct?

[Scope75]

15 days at 40 mg. and proviron little more than that at 50. Might run 25 prov for the first week of pct.

Well at least you still have something for a little boost to ride out the last 2 weeks while the test clears.

[TurkeyVulture]

Nice work! Looks like your forearms/ arms got massive

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It's been 14 weeks already... Today is day 100. Pct will start in 2 weeks. Hah I decided to use all I had test wise because I bought extra but then read how easy it is for bacteria to grow in the vial with just air exposure if you leave it between cycles. Plus being on is really nice and 2 more weeks ain't nothin to worry about.

My forearms are blown up when I work out but during the day they still look small to me..

[Scope75]

If you think your forearms are small the rest makes up for them.
Your fucking 206 and lean!!!
I'd give my left nut to where your at right now..

[weekend]

Bad idea! Haha you'll get there man... Are you doing a cycle any time soon?

[Scope75]

Bad idea! Haha you'll get there man... Are you doing a cycle any time soon?

I was going to do a nice cycle of test in may but I just fractured my leg so I'm not sure if I'll be in the condition I want to be before I pin.
Part of me wants to jump on something as soon as I can but I just don't want to use PEDs as a crutch, and a bunch of added wieght on a freshly healed can't be good. I know I can be 205 and lean without them and that was the plan to get to 205-210 at 12% then run my cycle and really kill it.

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Yeah, you don't wanna jump on test especially because it reduces collagen synthesis. You could always run var and cut some more.. Increase collagen and decrease weight on the leg once it's healed. Coming back up from a lighter weight would make it easier on the leg for sure.

I'm sure I will lose a bunch of water weight in the next 2 weeks. Hopefully I can get and stay above 200 for an extended period after pct and then get really cut again. Gotta come back bigger and leaner every year!

Honestly I did legs yesterday, squatted 315 ass to grass for 4x5, then did tons of high rep other stuff, my legs dwarfed my upper body while pumped.

I think long term I just wanna make my upper body bigger in comparison. Want to be leaner than this in the 210 area. Anything above 210 and I think I'll be too chode like lol

[Rodja]

slin pinning is a bit of a hassle... but it basically feels like you didn't pin lol

If you ever venture to Prop, Ace, NPP, etc. with ED dosing, a slin pin becomes your best friend.

[DJM]

If you ever venture to Prop, Ace, NPP, etc. with ED dosing, a slin pin becomes your best friend.

i use long esters and slin pin, i dont see the hassel at all, draw, backload, inject.....what 2x a week, 5min out of your day, no hassel here.........i find remembering to take an oral 2-3x a day, every day, a hassel actually

[Scope75]

I'll be starting CarbNite soon and I hope to cut some fat will maintaining what I can.
I know I'd rather be a smaller and leaner than bigger and fatter so the main goal will be fat loss.
I'll just be staying natty until I can get back some size that I'll lose and then I'll run a kickass well planned out cycle that'll just be the cherry on top.
My legs also dwarf my upper body and it doesn't take much for them to grow.
220@10-12% is my goal because I have a good amount of extra skin i need to fill out from being 330+..

[Rodja]

i use long esters and slin pin, i dont see the hassel at all, draw, backload, inject.....what 2x a week, 5min out of your day, no hassel here.........i find remembering to take an oral 2-3x a day, every day, a hassel actually

Depends on the dosing and how many compounds, but, for a simple Test cycle, slins are perfect.

[nate3993]

daaam weekend. quite the body. u know how to make a man forget about big rob

[longBallLima]

looking great man!!

although i'm sure ippy is looking better, since you just copied his cycle! :rolleyes:

[weekend]

i use long esters and slin pin, i dont see the hassel at all, draw, backload, inject.....what 2x a week, 5min out of your day, no hassel here.........i find remembering to take an oral 2-3x a day, every day, a hassel actually

It might seem more of a hassle to me because I picked up .5 cc slins instead of 1cc, it was a struggle to not make oil spray out everywhere. Plus I felt like I was at higher risk of contamination.

probably will run a short ester cycle next though. Would much rather run two 8 weekers a year than one 14 weeker haha.

[longBallLima]

It might seem more of a hassle to me because I picked up .5 cc slins instead of 1cc, it was a struggle to not make oil spray out everywhere. Plus I felt like I was at higher risk of contamination.

probably will run a short ester cycle next though. Would much rather run two 8 weekers a year than one 14 weeker haha.

pardon the ignorance, but if you're doing 2ml of oil and ur doing slin, do you have to do multiple shots and use multiple sites?

does that shit even get deep enough? lol

sorry, completely newb to slin

[Scope75]

It might seem more of a hassle to me because I picked up .5 cc slins instead of 1cc, it was a struggle to not make oil spray out everywhere. Plus I felt like I was at higher risk of contamination.

probably will run a short ester cycle next though. Would much rather run two 8 weekers a year than one 14 weeker haha.
I'd just do one 20 weeker. Lol

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daaam weekend. quite the body. u know how to make a man forget about big rob

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I'd just do one 20 weeker. Lol

I think my gains slowed down quite a bit by week 10.

[Scope75]

^^^ lol

Maybe that's the time to add in a stronger compound to the mix.

[weekend]

pardon the ignorance, but if you're doing 2ml of oil and ur doing slin, do you have to do multiple shots and use multiple sites?

does that shit even get deep enough? lol

sorry, completely newb to slin

Yes multiple shots. I think dj does two shots right next to each other though.

You're running 4 mL a week right?

[Rodja]

pardon the ignorance, but if you're doing 2ml of oil and ur doing slin, do you have to do multiple shots and use multiple sites?

does that shit even get deep enough? lol

sorry, completely newb to slin

They make 1cc slin pins and the oil will be absorbed 100% regardless if subQ or IM. Anyone that tells you that it won't be absorbed if injected into fat is very mistaken as TRT practitioners have been using this route for several years.

[longBallLima]

Yes multiple shots. I think dj does two shots right next to each other though.

You're running 4 mL a week right?

6, 2ml test, 4ml mast.

test days are 2 ml per shot.

[Scope75]

They make 1cc slin pins and the oil will be absorbed 100% regardless if subQ or IM. Anyone that tells you that it won't be absorbed if injected into fat is very mistaken as TRT practitioners have been using this route for several years.

Good to know..

[DJM]

Yes multiple shots. I think dj does two shots right next to each other though.

You're running 4 mL a week right?

last couple runs iv only used 2ml gear a week, tren is a beautiful thing and i dont use much
if you needed to pin more oil, yes you can use a quad 2x that same day, inch or two apart

[O_RYAN_007]

slin pinning is a bit of a hassle... but it basically feels like you didn't pin lol

I haven't had any troubles, and as dj says, it just takes a couple mins to get everything taken care of. Im having a good exp so far with slin pinning with 1 ml .5" 29 slins

[Scope75]

I haven't had any troubles, and as dj says, it just takes a couple mins to get everything taken care of. Im having a good exp so far with slin pinning with 1 ml .5" 29 slins

Where are you pinning??

[O_RYAN_007]

Where are you pinning??

test e

quads & delts

PIP happens, but its not bad at all.

[Scope75]

test e

quads & delts

PIP happens, but its not bad at all.
Since Rodja posted about oil being absorbed IM or subq opens up a door for pinning more often and in a bunch of different spots.
Pinning with a .5 29 slin sounds a lot better than a 1-1.5 25.

[Rodja]

Since Rodja posted about oil being absorbed IM or subq opens up a door for pinning more often and in a bunch of different spots.
Pinning with a .5 29 slin sounds a lot better than a 1-1.5 25.

One thing I love about slins is that I can finally pin in my delts. For whatever reason, standard pins irritate the shit out of the muscle tissue even at .5cc, but no such PIP with a slin even with identical volumes.

[Scope75]

That's weird.
Maybe it has something to do with how deep the oil is injected into the muscle.
Having the oil closer to the skin might keep the pip down because it doesn't stretch the whole muscle from the inside because you went shallower than a regular pin.
That's just something that popped into my head and have no idea if that's why but it makes since in my head. Lol

[Rodja]

That's weird.
Maybe it has something to do with how deep the oil is injected into the muscle.
Having the oil closer to the skin might keep the pip down because it doesn't stretch the whole muscle from the inside because you went shallower than a regular pin.
That's just something that popped into my head and have no idea if that's why but it makes since in my head. Lol

I think it has to do with the tightness and chronic inflammation in both of my shoulders. Years of grappling took a heavy toll on my shoulders and keeping my shoulders healthy is a continuous effort.

[nate3993]

i think burly had said that when he given instructions on how to inject his test for trt, they did a quad sub q. where is the best sub q place to inject?



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I think my gains slowed down quite a bit by week 10.


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[Infamy]

One thing I love about slins is that I can finally pin in my delts. For whatever reason, standard pins irritate the shit out of the muscle tissue even at .5cc, but no such PIP with a slin even with identical volumes.

You arent alone. I hate doing delts. It's the only place that gives me pip (well Ok calves do too but thats a different story!). it manifests itself in the form of like a dead arm. And I never inject more than 1ml into them so i dont think its the volume doing it either. I use delts coz I like shorter esters but I hate delt days!

[burlyman30]

i think burly had said that when he given instructions on how to inject his test for trt, they did a quad sub q. where is the best sub q place to inject?


Nate, they TOLD me to do intramuscular, but the way they SHOWED me, was clearly subq. lol. I've been injecting subq in the fattiest part of my upper thigh. Works great. Abdomen would work fine as well. You need an area that you can pinch enough tissue up away from the muscle for it to go in a good half inch or more. I go 3/4 inch or more. Glutes usually have enough fat on them to do subq without pinching the fat up and away.

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well, im about 10 days into PCT. things were going badly the first few days i took clomid.. i really dont know if t was placebo or coincidence or actually clomid but i blew up at both my girlfriend and sister and said a lot of inappropriate things..

my balls are growing back which is nice, and i feel good now. i also suspect it could've been low T not clomid making me retarded.

today i hit a PR on leg press after doing mountain dog pre-exhaust (leg curl/SLDL) and a fuck ton of leg press sets, hit 928 lbs for 5 reps. gonna try for 1018 in the next few weeks.. is this a good weight on leg press? i can't squat more than 365 ass to grass lol. and im going past parallel on the leg press.

lost 10 lbs in the clearance time for the test-e. but havent lost any more than that, i'm sittin at 197. abs are showing well.

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487 pre roids lol (3 yrs lifting already... vegan)

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guess i'm a perfect example of not waiting to hit natural potential... whoops

in the above picture i had been "bulking" for a while lol and i was only 5 lb lighter than in the before pics for this cycle... huge recomp there

[nate3993]

always nice to have the balls back (no homo)...that better? ;) u said they shrunk worse on bulk though right?

[weekend]

haha well that wasn't very homo in the first place. but yeah a little worse on bulk... but my balls have gotten bigger than ever in each PCT (long term). so shrinkage was comparable, even with hCG eod... can't imagine without.

theory that my balls increase size with my LBM to sustain the muscle mass with more test

[nate3993]

haha well that wasn't very homo in the first place. but yeah a little worse on bulk... but my balls have gotten bigger than ever in each PCT (long term). so shrinkage was comparable, even with hCG eod... can't imagine without.

theory that my balls increase size with my LBM to sustain the muscle mass with more test

sounds like a cray cray ass theory, but ok

or in laymen terms, sounds like wishful thinking

[BBG]

Banning you for saying cray cray.

[USN HM 350Z]

how tall are you again? Very good gains.

[DJM]

theory that my balls increase size with my LBM to sustain the muscle mass with more test
how the fuck is jay hiding his in that tiny singlet then?

[Scope75]

how the fuck is jay hiding his in that tiny singlet then?

His balls probably don't do anything anymore. Lol

[Rodja]

haha well that wasn't very homo in the first place. but yeah a little worse on bulk... but my balls have gotten bigger than ever in each PCT (long term). so shrinkage was comparable, even with hCG eod... can't imagine without.

theory that my balls increase size with my LBM to sustain the muscle mass with more test

Just as with atrophy and shutdown, increased volume and test levels are not highly correlated.

[weekend]

Haha probably wishful thinking, but they honestly were the size they are shrunk after a cycle before I touched anything. Maybe being vegan shrunk my nuts and eating meat made them bigger?

5'11

[weekend]

i also had a thought that although i have not achieved full size yet, my test might be pretty high but spermatogenesis is not in full swing since it hasn't had enough time to be... explaining the lag in shrinkage in the beginning of a cycle

[weekend]

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[USN HM 350Z]

looking good, got measurements?

[weekend]

chest is 45", biceps are around 16.75", waist is 32", quads 26", calves 16.5"

[USN HM 350Z]

what is your next cycle going to be? great gains from this one for sure.

[Scope75]

Great work and gains.

[weekend]

i dunno, i'll likely do short esters, probably no orals.

test+tren, test+mast, all 3 maybe... i think i want to run shorter cycles from here on out, prob 6-10 weeks max. i think ill get better results doing that more often than running 15 weeks with long esters once a year.

i should probably just do test+mast but i kinda wanna try tren i dunno

interested in EQ, but turned off by the 3 week clearance, and 1-test as well but my source doesn't have 1-test.

[DJM]

test tren
no need for anything else or trying to get fancy.....low dose of tren beats most anything else

[Rodja]

Either test/tren or test/NPP. NPP is kinda the middle step of tren as it has many of the same positive effects without nearly as much of the negatives.

[weekend]

I just don't wanna get emo on tren... Not exactly interested in NPP, as if I'm gonna go for a 19-nor I might as well hit tren.

But also worried that tren/NPP has a higher chance of fucking my HPTA up long term compared to test/mast

[Rodja]

I just don't wanna get emo on tren... Not exactly interested in NPP, as if I'm gonna go for a 19-nor I might as well hit tren.

But also worried that tren/NPP has a higher chance of fucking my HPTA up long term compared to test/mast

I've enjoyed NPP more than I have tren in terms of getting great strength gains without the insomnia and shallow sleep of NPP.

[weekend]

what was your dosing on both like?

[Rodja]

what was your dosing on both like?

50mg ED on each.

[JM1000]

kinda late but very nice gains man! you got some nice thickness and didnt bloat from the test. Were you eating low carb during cycle or pretty much the same? How much have you kept?

I was very sensitive to estrogen during cycle but two weeks post cycle, all the water flushed out and ended up looking pretty good and keeping 10 pounds of the 18 i took during cycle.

Have you sorted out what you are going to run next?

once again, nice tranformation !!!

[weekend]

kinda late but very nice gains man! you got some nice thickness and didnt bloat from the test. Were you eating low carb during cycle or pretty much the same? How much have you kept?

I was very sensitive to estrogen during cycle but two weeks post cycle, all the water flushed out and ended up looking pretty good and keeping 10 pounds of the 18 i took during cycle.

Have you sorted out what you are going to run next?

once again, nice tranformation !!!

thanks man! i've kept 23 lbs out of the 45 after cutting for this vacation, but i have gained back in fat and water by eating like a pig here so im gonna say with the same body fat it was 20 lbs muscle but i am a whole ton bigger!

when using slin pins, pinning is easy, so i bought testosterone acetate and masteron for my next cycle..

test ace 350/wk
mast prop 525/wk

thats gonna be 1 ml ed, probably about 10 weeks depending on loss (i think slin backloading actually saves oil!)

i'm stoked for that cycle. part of me wants to add more of something, i really like androgenic stuff since i dont bald and it seems that estro is my only culprit with acne.

next time im eating cleaner and lower calorie, i got some armpit stretch marks and no point in blowing up with water only to lose it after haha.

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kinda late but very nice gains man! you got some nice thickness and didnt bloat from the test. Were you eating low carb during cycle or pretty much the same? How much have you kept?

I was very sensitive to estrogen during cycle but two weeks post cycle, all the water flushed out and ended up looking pretty good and keeping 10 pounds of the 18 i took during cycle.

Have you sorted out what you are going to run next?

once again, nice tranformation !!!

thanks man! i've kept 23 lbs out of the 45 after cutting for this vacation, but i have gained back in fat and water by eating like a pig here so im gonna say with the same body fat it was 20 lbs muscle but i am a whole ton bigger!

when using slin pins, pinning is easy, so i bought testosterone acetate and masteron for my next cycle..

test ace 350/wk
mast prop 525/wk

thats gonna be 1 ml ed, probably about 10 weeks depending on loss (i think slin backloading actually saves oil!)

i'm stoked for that cycle. part of me wants to add more of something, i really like androgenic stuff since i dont bald and it seems that estro is my only culprit with acne.

next time im eating cleaner and lower calorie, i got some armpit stretch marks and no point in blowing up with water only to lose it after haha.

[JM1000]

Were you using slinpin on quads? for some reason, didn't do great for me and my quads are pretty lean so i was wondering...

[weekend]

yes slin pin quads. currently using masteron, letro and ralox to try and kill gyno. im finally starting to see some reduction.

went on vacation in cabo, i was about 195-198 in these pics, came to cabo only 190 lol ate and drank a fuck ton there though so by the end i was back at 200. im back at 195 now though hah.

obviously from the pics when im cold the gyno is 100% unnoticeable. its very noticeable when im warm, and noticeably more painful when i smoke weed... so i quit that.

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[nate3993]

yes slin pin quads. currently using masteron, letro and ralox to try and kill gyno. im finally starting to see some reduction.

went on vacation in cabo, i was about 195-198 in these pics, came to cabo only 190 lol ate and drank a fuck ton there though so by the end i was back at 200. im back at 195 now though hah.

obviously from the pics when im cold the gyno is 100% unnoticeable. its very noticeable when im warm, and noticeably more painful when i smoke weed... so i quit that.

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;)...that's all

[burlyman30]

;)...that's all

Lol. Tallstraw has competition now?

[nate3993]

Lol. Tallstraw has competition now?

hahaha. if i could see weekend's face, then we could settle this one.

[JM1000]

Looking good there man! will log my next cycle in a month or so with couple pics.. gotta get my tan on if i want to be a sexy beast like you <3

[weekend]

You're doing another already?! I'm gonna wait a good 5 months I think.

[JM1000]

It's been 5 months since my pct, i'll wait until next summer for the next though

[weekend]

so youre doing another one now, then another a year later? nice man.

638
Above is 30 min ago, weighed in at 188 :rolleyes:

Below is from the only pictures i have at my peak on cycle weight of 208. solid 20 pound loss since then.. hah
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you can see the gyno was creeping up on me, this was week 10. i never thought i had gyno coming though, the puffiness was there and i think the soft tissue was forming all cycle, it just didnt get hard and painful until i was deprived of androgens.

[h2s]

Lean mofo...just when I was happy with my progress.

[burlyman30]

so youre doing another one now, then another a year later? nice man.

638
Above is 30 min ago, weighed in at 188 :rolleyes:

Below is from the only pictures i have at my peak on cycle weight of 208. solid 20 pound loss since then.. hah
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you can see the gyno was creeping up on me, this was week 10. i never thought i had gyno coming though, the puffiness was there and i think the soft tissue was forming all cycle, it just didnt get hard and painful until i was deprived of androgens.

Lost 20 lbs.... on purpose? Or did you forget to eat post cycle?

[DJM]

weekend, you carry such low bf you could surely up cals, add fantastic fullness and not really compromise the lines you carry, hell 5-6lbs more on you would like like 15 because of your shape

[JM1000]

Lean and mean! Doesnt look like you lost that much though..

[weekend]

Yes 20 lbs on purpose... I gained 45 on cycle lololol.

To be fair, ten of it was pure water from the first days of PCT.

Haven't lost any strength.

Right now I'm trying to achieve my lowest bodyfat ever in hopes of starving these lumps.

[weekend]

Dj, in cabo I came there and by the end on all that food and alcohol
I was 198. Haha somewhere in the middle I was soooo full and pumped (lifted everyday there) but by the end I noticed chest fat and love handles creepin up.

[JM1000]

From the photos, i really can't tell there is any gyno on ya, seems like you've been dealing with it ok. During my pct i was using aromasin eod and didnt get a side of gyno. I'll have letro for the tren, really don't wanna get gyno, seems like hell

[weekend]

640

this is now. it was a little worse before, not too much worse though. obviously the ralox and letro is not nuking this one quickly lol

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[JM1000]

I can see the progress, hope you are gyno free soon bro!

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[weekend]

i feel like it looks like it got worse in these pics haha, the second one is older...

[burlyman30]

640

this is now. it was a little worse before, not too much worse though. obviously the ralox and letro is not nuking this one quickly lol

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I think Nate is going to jizz in his pants from these pics.

Way to go, Weekend. Way to thrust yourself to the head of the pack.

[nate3993]

oh yes. gyno pics. i have such a fetish for gyno

[burlyman30]

oh yes. gyno pics. i have such a fetish for gyno

Lol... wasn't the gyno I was referring to... it was the whole downward view of those pics.

Huh.... maybe it's just me and I have a thing for Weekend. :D

[h2s]

There actually does seem to be more improvement in my opinion then you are willing to credit. It is slight, but definitely there.

[weekend]

i noticed it looked a lot better the last 2 days when i took adderall.

i ditched prami really quick because it made me sleep like shit, i think im going to reintroduce it in the AM this time next week, as adderall increases dopamine (decreasing prolactin but unfortunately with a rebound unlike prami)

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I think Nate is going to jizz in his pants from these pics.

Way to go, Weekend. Way to thrust yourself to the head of the pack.

was the second part a compliment or a joke? thanks either way lol

[KenTheEagle]

Hey your gyno is not that bad! i expected something worse!!!!!!!!!!! i am glad is getting better, did you produce milk? (this is a serious question, i dont know how to call it). also does it hurt?

I am stll worried of getting gyno in the next few weeks, hopefully not.

Get rid of it brah! ;)

[weekend]

its pretty painful but starting to become less painful. no milk at all lol

i think its shrinking now... hopefully ill get full remission but its almost not noticeable when not flexing, but i still cant let my girl lay on my chest!

[KenTheEagle]

its pretty painful but starting to become less painful. no milk at all lol

i think its shrinking now... hopefully ill get full remission but its almost not noticeable when not flexing, but i still cant let my girl lay on my chest!


LOL at the milk comment! i am glad everything is better for you now, i noticed SLIGHT pain the first week on PCT but only to the touch, right now i press hard and nothing, i can really tell that your gyno does not look bad, its hardly noticeable.

[weekend]

LOL at the milk comment! i am glad everything is better for you now, i noticed SLIGHT pain the first week on PCT but only to the touch, right now i press hard and nothing, i can really tell that your gyno does not look bad, its hardly noticeable.


Holy fuck, my nipples just leaked clear fluid when I squeezed them. But not out of the nipple, out of multiple pores on the areola...

wtf guys, I'm on prami at .25 for a week, letro at 2.5 for about 40 days, just dropped to 2 mg, ralox at 120 and i3c at 800 per day.


I think now that I've seen that it actually has gotten wet on its own a couple times.. But I thought I was trippin. Is this bad or could it mean the gyno is dying and the small amount of milk produced needs to escape?

Sensitivity is way down, puffiness down a bit and gland size is definitely smaller...

[burlyman30]

Dare I ask the question " why did you squeeze them?"

Don't have an answer for you on the other stuff, buy I am glad you are seeing a reduction.

[weekend]

i squeezed them from the bottom up to the skin, kindof like a milking motion you would give to an udder to compare the amount of hardness I felt to the few weeks back when I injected masteron. They are less hard. But there was the tiniest bit of fluid when I did it and I was like... What? So I pushed up harder and squeezed a little inward on it and like 4 drops came out of 4 separate pores. Left nip which is worse off gland size wise needed more push... But 3 good size drops came out. I'm hoping this is a sign of tissue death in my case..

[burlyman30]

That was so much more descriptive than I was hoping for. Lol.

[olddawg]

must be some good gear you have :rolleyes:

[weekend]

must be some good gear you have :rolleyes:

wut?

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

i squeezed them from the bottom up to the skin, kindof like a milking motion you would give to an udder to compare the amount of hardness I felt to the few weeks back when I injected masteron. They are less hard. But there was the tiniest bit of fluid when I did it and I was like... What? So I pushed up harder and squeezed a little inward on it and like 4 drops came out of 4 separate pores. Left nip which is worse off gland size wise needed more push... But 3 good size drops came out. I'm hoping this is a sign of tissue death in my case..

That's pretty wierd man, is it coming out of the "bumps" on the areola? You're probably right about breast tissue death, but if the discharge has a foul odor, or you notice signs of infection at the site you should really go see a doc. You put a little Mast back there right? That stuff might have been encapsulated and you might have a cyst back there now. Doubtful though as the fluid volume was so small.

No matter what you would probably be better off not "milking" yourself, or even stimulating your nips at all, if you're trying to finish off your gyno. Lactation is a self-reinforcing sort of thing. The last thing you need is even a little bit more prolactin or oxytocin.

[KenTheEagle]

Holy fuck, my nipples just leaked clear fluid when I squeezed them. But not out of the nipple, out of multiple pores on the areola...

wtf guys, I'm on prami at .25 for a week, letro at 2.5 for about 40 days, just dropped to 2 mg, ralox at 120 and i3c at 800 per day.


I think now that I've seen that it actually has gotten wet on its own a couple times.. But I thought I was trippin. Is this bad or could it mean the gyno is dying and the small amount of milk produced needs to escape?

Sensitivity is way down, puffiness down a bit and gland size is definitely smaller...

Weekend, i just catched this, i am not sure if its milk, but we can point 3 facts

1.- was the liquid white or non colored?

2.- what about the smell? (should not smell)

3.- did it hurt when you produce the liquid?

i have a friend that had gyno (fat guy) and he sometimes produced non colored liquid)

If you in fact did produce milk, maybe it would be the "last batch of milk", since your gyno just got better, you just needed to released the existing milk.

If the liquid was non colored i would not worry, since it could be remaining fluid

also, did your gyno got better after squeezing? (less painful).

[DJM]

'last batch of milk'

[longBallLima]

'last batch of milk'

nom nom nom

[markam]

nom nom nom

Yep, full of growth hormone. Did it taste fresh?

[HIXX504]

You can milk anything with nipples

[USN HM 350Z]

Ken,

Please stop giving advice on things that you know nothing about. If you feel it necessary to give advice on valid facts, please give your supporting documentation (web site references) You giving advice on things that you know shit about could end up hurting people.

Also, where is Spain do you live? I might be out there in July and would love to get some pictures with you and buy you a rockstar...


Weekend, i just catched this, i am not sure if its milk, but we can point 3 facts

1.- was the liquid white or non colored?

2.- what about the smell? (should not smell)

3.- did it hurt when you produce the liquid?

i have a friend that had gyno (fat guy) and he sometimes produced non colored liquid)

If you in fact did produce milk, maybe it would be the "last batch of milk", since your gyno just got better, you just needed to released the existing milk.

If the liquid was non colored i would not worry, since it could be remaining fluid

also, did your gyno got better after squeezing? (less painful).

[DJM]

Ken,

Please stop giving advice on things that you know nothing about. If you feel it necessary to give advice on valid facts, please give your supporting documentation (web site references) You giving advice on things that you know shit about could end up hurting people.

Also, where is Spain do you live? I might be out there in July and would love to get some pictures with you and buy you a rockstar...

he said it!

better luck in mexico tho

[JM1000]

omg

[Rodja]

Weekend, i just catched this, i am not sure if its milk, but we can point 3 facts

1.- was the liquid white or non colored?

2.- what about the smell? (should not smell)

3.- did it hurt when you produce the liquid?

i have a friend that had gyno (fat guy) and he sometimes produced non colored liquid)

If you in fact did produce milk, maybe it would be the "last batch of milk", since your gyno just got better, you just needed to released the existing milk.

If the liquid was non colored i would not worry, since it could be remaining fluid

also, did your gyno got better after squeezing? (less painful).

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/165246/shut-the-fuck-up-o.gif

[KenTheEagle]

Ken,

Please stop giving advice on things that you know nothing about. If you feel it necessary to give advice on valid facts, please give your supporting documentation (web site references) You giving advice on things that you know shit about could end up hurting people.

Also, where is Spain do you live? I might be out there in July and would love to get some pictures with you and buy you a rockstar...

I just asked because i am curious, i have read enough to never be fkd up by gyno....... i am gyno free :D ..... so obviously i know how to avoid it, or how do you explain it?, if you are mad because you HAVE gyno and you think you know what you are doing, you are probably not doing it right and having gyno does not make you an expert..., just because you have experience with gyno doesnt mean you can say that my comments are wrong

I AM GYNO FREE, PROBABLY I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU! :D....... i dont even know what is like :P i may someday tell you guys how i do it

and i know friends who had gyno, i am giving you my opinion and i never recommend any hamrful meds, so you can be calmed..............


I am not in Spain right now, i will be in Colombia on summer i think, if i am in spain ill let you know, we could play poker with my buds and drink some beers :D........... of course i wont forget youd buy me a rockstar.

[markam]

You're gyno free until you're not.

[KenTheEagle]

You're gyno free until you're not.

LOL and ill always be gyno free! :P hopefully., Eric advices have really helped me :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burlyman30]

I just asked because i am curious, i have read enough to never be fkd up by gyno....... i am gyno free :D ..... so obviously i know how to avoid it, or how do you explain it?, if you are mad because you HAVE gyno and you think you know what you are doing, you are probably not doing it right and having gyno does not make you an expert..., just because you have experience with gyno doesnt mean you can say that my comments are wrong

I AM GYNO FREE, PROBABLY I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU! :D....... i dont even know what is like :P i may someday tell you guys how it.

Wishing you a bad case of tren gyno on your next cycle so I never have to read a post like this again from you.

[O_RYAN_007]

LOL and ill always be gyno free! :P hopefully., Eric advices have really helped me :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOu've just been lucky. I'm sure you don't have gyno because you NEVER CYCLED any real roids, not because all your researches! :rolleyes:I'm holding back so many negative comments here.

[DJM]

I just asked because i am curious, i have read enough to never be fkd up by gyno....... i am gyno free :D ..... so obviously i know how to avoid it, or how do you explain it?, if you are mad because you HAVE gyno and you think you know what you are doing, you are probably not doing it right and having gyno does not make you an expert..., just because you have experience with gyno doesnt mean you can say that my comments are wrong

I AM GYNO FREE, PROBABLY I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU! :D....... i dont even know what is like :P i may someday tell you guys how i do it

and i know friends who had gyno, i am giving you my opinion and i never recommend any hamrful meds, so you can be calmed..............


I am not in Spain right now, i will be in Colombia on summer i think, if i am in spain ill let you know, we could play poker with my buds and drink some beers :D........... of course i wont forget youd buy me a rockstar.

that was some good shit

btw kenboy, a few of us have experienced gyno, myself included, and all got rid of it........real world experience, and im sure i can speak for others in saying none of us milked the last batch lol
you know a lot kenboy, amazing resources that none of us have access too, can i ask why weekend might be lactating, assuming it wasnt an infection? what would be your course of action?

btw you say you are have been gyno free, but i saw those post sd pics when you wanted to enter hts contest, the ones that you took down so fast, you did have a little set of 13yr old girl titties i recall......was that what i think it was, or are you say shredded all the body fat in your david esque physique pooled there in an attempt to hide from your unrivaled metabolism?

[olddawg]

you did have a little set of 13yr old girl titties i recall......?

still fwapping to those pics--my wallpaper

[DJM]

still fwapping to those pics--my wallpaper
worst post sd pics iv ever seen lol

[h2s]

Haha, same old shit..different day. How many times have I said that since he returned?

Ken, I have had gyno, do you know more than me? Is that why you used to pm me with questions on pp board all the time before you thought I 'hated' you?

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

You can milk anything with nipples

I have nipples HIXX504, can you milk me?

[olddawg]

same with me on the gyno, was on tren/mast/test, all low dose, caber, letro, aromasin, still got lumps and sore nips, can't be estrogen, prolactin, though jj suggests it may be free estrogen, what should I do from here ippy?

[weekend]

I just asked because i am curious, i have read enough to never be fkd up by gyno....... i am gyno free :D ..... so obviously i know how to avoid it, or how do you explain it?, if you are mad because you HAVE gyno and you think you know what you are doing, you are probably not doing it right and having gyno does not make you an expert..., just because you have experience with gyno doesnt mean you can say that my comments are wrong

I AM GYNO FREE, PROBABLY I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU! :D....... i dont even know what is like :P i may someday tell you guys how i do it

and i know friends who had gyno, i am giving you my opinion and i never recommend any hamrful meds, so you can be calmed..............


I am not in Spain right now, i will be in Colombia on summer i think, if i am in spain ill let you know, we could play poker with my buds and drink some beers :D........... of course i wont forget youd buy me a rockstar.

I can honestly guarantee I have read everything you've read about gyno and more way before I started that cycle. I had gyno when I was like 14-15, it went away, I felt like on Androbulk my nips and chest fat were weird and boob like but no gland was noticeable...

Test just made sure it was coming back, the gyno was coming all along regardless it was just waiting to swell up until I was androgen free.

This time was much more painful than when I was younger.

Get your head out of your ass plz.

[Coolazice]

Get your head out of your ass plz.

lol

[weekend]

On a different note, does anyone know why my bench, ohp and squat have gone down since my cycle but most of my pulling movements have gone up?

[burlyman30]

On a different note, does anyone know why my bench, ohp and squat have gone down since my cycle but most of my pulling movements have gone up?

I've had this occur before. I don't know the reason, but enjoy the newfound strength in the pulling movements regardless.

[weekend]

I just hate squats off cycle. They are sooooo much easier on...

Everything is easier on cycle haha, but I can push the pulls higher regardless. On cycle they go up much faster too though.

[burlyman30]

I just hate squats off cycle. They are sooooo much easier on...

Everything is easier on cycle haha, but I can push the pulls higher regardless. On cycle they go up much faster too though.

I've always been stronger at pulling exercises. Bent rows for reps at 335 vs bench presses for reps at 100 lbs less. Deadlifts are stronger by squats by probably 75 lbs. Pulldowns vs overhead presses, I give up 50 lbs. on the press. Go figure. :confused: Genetics is a fickle thing.

[weekend]

Looking over pictures, I think my gyno looked significantly better while still on masteron... So ill definitely wait to hit my next cycle before considering surgery. Fairly sure the glands won't disappear from the current regimen but ill run it until I run out.

The only thing is right now I think I could convince my doc I'm not juicin, but after another cycle I doubt it...
Would be sweet to get the insurance to cover it..

[KenTheEagle]

Looking over pictures, I think my gyno looked significantly better while still on masteron... So ill definitely wait to hit my next cycle before considering surgery. Fairly sure the glands won't disappear from the current regimen but ill run it until I run out.

The only thing is right now I think I could convince my doc I'm not juicin, but after another cycle I doubt it...
Would be sweet to get the insurance to cover it..

Weekend, in total how many weeks you were on? i can recall you saying that when you stopped teh cycle you got gyno at week 3 then you started using mast? so how many weeks on?

[HIXX504]

I have nipples HIXX504, can you milk me?

Lol

[weekend]

Weekend, in total how many weeks you were on? i can recall you saying that when you stopped teh cycle you got gyno at week 3 then you started using mast? so how many weeks on?

If I recall correctly I took my last shot of test on the 100th day.. Took anavar from day 86 to 114. Then started pct. 3 weeks into pct gyno flared but in hindsight nipples were funky from week 1 or 2. So it was forming then swelled up once I was androgen deprived. I started using mast about 7 weeks after starting pct. used one vial 1500 mg