Buddy check

[Turnover25]

Thought I’d do a quick check in. You guys doing alright? Anyone struggling and need a little pick-me-up?

I’m having a good weekend. Hope you dudes are as well.

[PashaSolid]

Thanks bro, doing good here 👍🏻

[Outlaw]

You're a solid dude T25

[Turnover25]

You're a solid dude T25

Likewise my friend!

[Jado]

Getting better after this major downswing. Thanks for checking in, man.

[LetsGo]

I need a buddy check pretty badly. Feel free to DM, just about to see my therapist so I don’t have much time to type more.

[DKnighten]

Thought I’d do a quick check in. You guys doing alright? Anyone struggling and need a little pick-me-up?

I’m having a good weekend. Hope you dudes are as well.

A pick me up lol.. Been in constant shit for 3 years. The more I workout, lift weights, walk outside, the worse I get and feel.

[Turnover25]

A pick me up lol.. Been in constant shit for 3 years. The more I workout, lift weights, walk outside, the worse I get and feel. Pretty fucked.

I mean, so have I. I get it. Have you run any cycles yet?

[DKnighten]

I mean, so have I. I get it. Have you run any cycles yet?

Thought you were damn near recovered, no? Getting extensive cortisol tests checked out, as my cortisol has been wacky and inconsistent, then going for the R andro cycle. Just worried about it suppressing me or interfering with my cortisol.

[Turnover25]

Thought you were damn near recovered, no? Getting extensive cortisol tests checked out, as my cortisol has been wacky and inconsistent, then going for the R andro cycle. Just worried about it suppressing me or interfering with my cortisol.

I’m close. My last cycle got me out of the “suffering” phase now it’s a lot easier to live life while I beat the rest of it. But it still goes up and down, I go into like month/2 month upswings then a month or 2 of downswing.

I remember we talked via DM back when we were both in the depths. We had a lot of similarities, neurologically especially. I really think you’ll benefit from the cycle. I’ve done 4 and without them I’d still probably be where I was, it was like I just wouldn’t get any better, then I started cycling and started improving.

[Mistyballoon]

I’m close. My last cycle got me out of the “suffering” phase now it’s a lot easier to live life while I beat the rest of it. But it still goes up and down, I go into like month/2 month upswings then a month or 2 of downswing.

I remember we talked via DM back when we were both in the depths. We had a lot of similarities, neurologically especially. I really think you’ll benefit from the cycle. I’ve done 4 and without them I’d still probably be where I was, it was like I just wouldn’t get any better, then I started cycling and started improving.

Hi, how are you on sexual sides? Personally I haven't experienced any noticable mental symptoms other than fatigue and anxiety..

[DKnighten]

I’m close. My last cycle got me out of the “suffering” phase now it’s a lot easier to live life while I beat the rest of it. But it still goes up and down, I go into like month/2 month upswings then a month or 2 of downswing.

I remember we talked via DM back when we were both in the depths. We had a lot of similarities, neurologically especially. I really think you’ll benefit from the cycle. I’ve done 4 and without them I’d still probably be where I was, it was like I just wouldn’t get any better, then I started cycling and started improving.

I don't even know what people mean by upswings really, I'm assuming it is when you start feeling better overall and having forward momentum, better mood, energy, etc. I just cannot relate. Did you do the same substance for all 4 cycles? From talking with Joe, it seems that R-andro is the recommended compound due to no Epiandosterone.

[Turnover25]

Hi, how are you on sexual sides? Personally I haven't experienced any noticable mental symptoms other than fatigue and anxiety..

They’re getting there, slowly

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I don't even know what people mean by upswings really, I'm assuming it is when you start feeling better overall and having forward momentum, better mood, energy, etc. I just cannot relate. Did you do the same substance for all 4 cycles? From talking with Joe, it seems that R-andro is the recommended compound due to no Epiandosterone.

First cycle was R Andro, second was UltraHard, 3rd and fourth were a mix of R Andro and Ultra hard. My next one is going to be primarily Ultrahard. I love them both. Noticed more neurological and sexual improvement with UltraHard, notice more improvement with depression and anxiety from R Andro. Might’ve panned out the same if I had just stuck to one, but who knows. I think they are both great.

What I’ve learned from my time cycling, is your body is going to get out what you put in. I’ve had cycles where I was extremely strict with diet, working out, sun etc, and I got huge benefits. Then I had a cycle where I ate like shit and drank a few times, didn’t get much out of it and I barely consider it a cycle. They are just another piece of the puzzle, not a silver bullet. However, if used correctly you’ll see large benefits.

[LIC2020]

A pick me up lol.. Been in constant shit for 3 years. The more I workout, lift weights, walk outside, the worse I get and feel. Pretty fucked.

No offense man, but your attitude really sucks. Turnover was being a solid dude and just reaching out to see if anyone could use some help and you turned it into “woe is me, my life sucks”.

I’m just saying that i have pretty much every symptom you mention in your threads (especially the exercise intolerance), and I still work full time, live in my own, pay bills etc. (as most on this forum do) my point is I’m still pushing. I’m still trying to get better. Everyone here has a shitty life right now. I understand being frustrated, but theres no point for the negativity on a post meant to try and help people.

[DKnighten]

No offense man, but your attitude really sucks. Turnover was being a solid dude and just reaching out to see if anyone could use some help and you turned it into “woe is me, my life sucks”.

I’m just saying that i have pretty much every symptom you mention in your threads (especially the exercise intolerance), and I still work full time, live in my own, pay bills etc. (as most on this forum do) my point is I’m still pushing. I’m still trying to get better. Everyone here has a shitty life right now. I understand being frustrated, but theres no point for the negativity on a post meant to try and help people.

I've gone back and forth about commenting on this, but here it goes. Turnover posted about a buddy check, that's a "check-in". I'm assuming the point of a check-in is because, more than likely, not everyone is doing all great. So I told it like it is, like I always do.

I'm sorry to hear you have all of the symptoms. I didn't see anything about skin, metabolic, or fat deposit changes in your thread. I must have missed them.

Kudos for paying your bills and working. Glad to hear you're still pushing. I'm not sure if you're assuming that I don't do these things (and more). I would wager that I am more physically active than 50% of guys on this forum. Hasn't really made a difference on this end.

[Flapjack]

I've gone back and forth about commenting on this, but here it goes. Turnover posted about a buddy check, that's a "check-in". I'm assuming the point of a check-in is because, more than likely, not everyone is doing all great. So I told it like it is, like I always do.

I'm sorry to hear you have all of the symptoms. I didn't see anything about skin, metabolic, or fat deposit changes in your thread. I must have missed them.

Kudos for paying your bills and working. Glad to hear you're still pushing. I'm not sure if you're assuming that I don't do these things (and more). I would wager that I am more physically active than 50% of guys on this forum. Hasn't really made a difference on this end.

With all due respect, I don’t think you belong here. Your entire post history spanning years is one of pessimism, excuses, and a general lack of warmth to those who have taken the time to try to help you. “Calling it like it is” is not a justification for being callous to others. Buckle up and have some faith in yourself or go back to propeciahelp.

[Brooks]

With all due respect, I don’t think you belong here. Your entire post history spanning years is one of pessimism, excuses, and a general lack of warmth to those who have taken the time to try to help you. “Calling it like it is” is not a justification for being callous to others. Buckle up and have some faith in yourself or go back to propeciahelp.

^ Agreed

[HOPE]

Can we ban this guy already?

[Turnover25]

Let’s try and relax here, dudes. I believe the opposite, I think DKnighten should spend more time here if he chooses to be on any forums. I know how frustrating it can be when you’re exponentially fucked and don’t see improvements when guys around you are, even though I don’t always show that side of my battle in my posts and only post about my upswings. The point of the post here was for guys to be honest after all, he should be able to express himself freely. We’re all in the same battle here, no need for any hostility

[Brooks]

Let’s try and relax here, dudes. I believe the opposite, I think DKnighten should spend more time here if he chooses to be on any forums. I know how frustrating it can be when you’re exponentially fucked and don’t see improvements when guys around you are, even though I don’t always show that side of my battle in my posts and only post about my upswings. The point of the post here was for guys to be honest after all, he should be able to express himself freely. We’re all in the same battle here, no need for any hostility

To bring this buddy check back full circle, how’s everything going on your end man?

[Turnover25]

To bring this buddy check back full circle, how’s everything going on your end man?

Lately not the best, some of my neurological shit and brain fog is showing no signs of letting up, though I still feel a lot better than before my last cycle. So I think it’s getting to my head, just self doubt and all that. Depression shows a bit of fluctuation, libido is still a lost cause. Starting a new cycle on Saturday tho, excited because I always feel much better on them and see improvements each time. I don’t really like to talk about my own personal shit or feelings, never did

[Brooks]

Lately not the best, some of my neurological shit and brain fog is showing no signs of letting up, though I still feel a lot better than before my last cycle. Depression shows a bit of fluctuation, libido is still a lost cause. Starting a new cycle on Saturday tho, excited because I always feel much better on them and see improvements each time. I don’t really like to talk about my own personal shit or feelings, never did

I’ve also been in a plateau myself lately... dang they’re so frustrating. I was making awesome progress over the summer. Gearing up for my third cycle in early November. Lets close this year out strong bro so we can hit 2022 with our eyes on the prize!

[Turnover25]

I’ve also been in a plateau myself lately... dang they’re so frustrating. I was making awesome progress over the summer. Gearing up for my third cycle in early November. Lets close this year out strong bro so we can hit 2022 with our eyes on the prize!

Yeah bro I have a lot of ups and downs. Typically on cycle I just feel great then afterward I drop off for a few months pretty low until I come back, seems like I'm coming back now. But this next cycle is gonna be UH with Alpha 4 so I'm excited to see what the combo is like.

But sounds good bro, only good things ahead!

[Brooks]

Yeah bro I have a lot of ups and downs. Typically on cycle I just feel great then afterward I drop off for a few months pretty low until I come back, seems like I'm coming back now. But this next cycle is gonna be UH with Alpha 4 so I'm excited to see what the combo is like.

But sounds good bro, only good things ahead!

I love UH and I have some Alpha 4 stored up so I’d definitely be very curious to hear how you like it. Just a little worried about suppression. Keep us posted on that UH Alpha 4 combo!

[Turnover25]

I love UH and I have some Alpha 4 stored up so I’d definitely be very curious to hear how you like it. Just a little worried about suppression. Keep us posted on that UH Alpha 4 combo!

I’m going to get my test and E2 tested before and after this cycle so that should give some good insight

[Flapjack]

You're wasting your time. Over half of these mother fuckers don't have true PFS and think a limp dick is what it is. They're fucking retards and I'd love for nothing more than to meet that HOPE prick in person and beat the absolute shit out of him. Among a few others. Imagine getting told to "get to work" by somebody who complains of sexual symptoms and has had "PFS" for 6 months to 1 year. lol the entire thing is a fucking joke. I lift weights 4 days a week and kickbox 3 days a week. I'm more active and live healthier than I have in my entire life and it hasn't done shit in terms of fixing PFS. The majority of guys here are full of shit.

And to whoever the badass is that was talking about 5'7 and 160 lbs, i'm actually 5'7 and 152 lbs so your odds are even better. PM me.

This is why this guy needs to go. Just propogating toxicity on the only oasis of positivity in the Post Finasteride Syndrome world. We should strive to be better here.

[DKnighten]

This is why this guy needs to go. Just propogating toxicity on the only oasis of positivity in the Post Finasteride Syndrome world. We should strive to be better here.

Oh, absolutely. That's what this forum was built on. Positivity and a way out. The problem is the cult mentality that's been developed here over the years and any sort of honesty about the reality of the situation is dismissed and regarded as "negativity". Anything other than improvement is simply not tolerated and it's comical, considering it's a rare condition that NOBODY has the answer to. I've done more for this community than most of you COMBINED apart from CD, Maxout, and those guys. I've fought tooth and nail over the past 3 years to improve my situation with one of the worst cases of PFS i've ever come across BY FAR. and still going to end up doing very well for myself, all things considered.

[Flapjack]

Oh, absolutely. That's what this forum was built on. Positivity and a way out. The problem is the cult mentality that's been developed here over the years and any sort of honesty about the reality of the situation is dismissed and regarded as "negativity". Anything other than improvement is simply not tolerated and it's comical, considering it's a rare condition that NOBODY has the answer to. I've done more for this community than most of you COMBINED apart from CD, Maxout, and those guys. I've fought tooth and nail over the past 3 years to improve my situation with one of the worst cases of PFS i've ever come across BY FAR. and still going to end up doing very well for myself, all things considered.

I'm sorry you're frustrated, but we're all in this together man. Everyone here is dealing with their fair share of shit. I understand you were hit hard but we're not pulling through this by tearing people apart here. There are more valid ways to take out your anger that don't involve this kind of shit. It is just a major distraction and isn't helping anyone.

[DKnighten]

i'm sorry your frustrated, but we're all in this together man. Everyone here is dealing with their fair share of shit. I understand you were hit hard but we're not pulling through this by tearing people apart here. There are more valid ways to take out your anger that don't involve this kind of shit. It is just a major distraction and isn't helping anyone.

Half of these guys don't even truly believe in this protocol. They perpetuate this cult mentality of "anything less than 100% protocol is nothing" because they don't want to have to face what the alternative is. It's what people do when they're afraid. They group together and repeat whatever the big dog is saying. In essence the protocol is living the healthiest lifestyle you possibly can and waiting it out to see where a few years down the road puts you. And when/if that doesn't work well for you, well, then you weren't working hard enough.

[Brooks]

Half of these guys don't even truly believe in this protocol. They perpetuate this cult mentality of "anything less than 100% protocol is nothing" because they don't want to have to face what the alternative is. It's what people do when they're afraid. They group together and repeat whatever the big dog is saying. In essence the protocol is living the healthiest lifestyle you possibly can and waiting it out to see where a few years down the road puts you. And when/if that doesn't work well for you, well, then you weren't working hard enough.

Then why are you wasting your entire Friday having a temper tantrum on a forum about a protocol your convinced won’t work for you?

You simply don’t have to be here man.

[Outlaw]

Half of these guys don't even truly believe in this protocol. They perpetuate this cult mentality of "anything less than 100% protocol is nothing" because they don't want to have to face what the alternative is. It's what people do when they're afraid. They group together and repeat whatever the big dog is saying. In essence the protocol is living the healthiest lifestyle you possibly can and waiting it out to see where a few years down the road puts you. And when/if that doesn't work well for you, well, then you weren't working hard enough.
As others have pointed out man, your posts are always negative, you halfass the protocol and complain about no results, and you consistenly switch your story. Few weeks ago you said your body couldn't handle bodyweight exercises, and now you go to the gym and you're a kickboxer.

I messaged you when I crashed in December and you basically told me my life was over if I didn't recover naturally. I made the mistake of believing you and was an anxious wreck for months. I'm sure deep down you're not a bad person but your mindset is toxic. This place is not always rainbows and unicorns, look at my thread. I complained, I was negative, but people helped me.

I hope you work your mindset and you get better man, honestly. I wouldn't wish PFS on my worst ennemy. But nobody will want to help you if you keep talking about beating them up. Besides, if you really are doing as bad as you say, I don't think you're beating much people.

[HOPE]

I am glad Bankai warned me about you when I talked to him. It indeed still rings true today, “this guy doesn’t do shit then complains”. I have crippling anhedonia and neurological symptoms that far trump any sexual side effects I could be having, but in spite of that - I’ve benefitted from the protocol. On the other hand, we’ve got guys like you who are pretty much not doing anything:
- Breaking juice feasts with peanut butter after a couple of days.
- What’s with your exercise routine? Are you exercising daily and intensively, or
- Cycling barely three herbs. Yes, they do work.
- Amongst many other clear errors.
I was actually warned about you DK - you’re perpetuating whatever is said on PropeciaHelp… You seem like a decent dude, and you’re clearly pissed off over losing an aspect of your career - I get that - but really give an effort to actually get it back.


Ah, well - you probably never had PFS anyways and that’s why the protocol doesn’t work.

[Ratchet_V2]

DKnighten

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[DKnighten]

Ah, well - you probably never had PFS anyways and that’s why the protocol doesn’t work.
LIC2020

You mean statements like this?

[DKnighten]

Nope you're right, I'm gone. My issues apart from PFS are largely with a single guy. Peace and best of luck.

[Flapjack]

Nope you're right, I'm gone. My issues apart from PFS are largely with a single guy. Peace and best of luck.

I hope you can come here with a better mindset man. I know it's a struggle. You can recover. I feel for you. Don't count yourself out, just be kind to others. Neither hope nor you are bad people but you just have to take a deep breath and realize there's a reason behind these emotions and they can be funneled to a more productive avenue.

[DKnighten]

Lol this entire thing has truly brought out the worst in me. Knocked me down to places I never thought i'd end up. Hopefully i'll end up graduating and be able to hold down a PT job and at least make a difference somewhere. Cheers man and best of luck to most of you.

@CD if you could politely ban me from this forum it would be appreciated. Would help the temptation to log back on here.

[MungYarlon]

Lol this entire thing has truly brought out the worst in me. Knocked me down to places I never thought i'd end up. Hopefully i'll end up graduating and be able to hold down a PT job and at least make a difference somewhere. Cheers man and best of luck to most of you.

@CD if you could politely ban me from this forum it would be appreciated. Would help the temptation to log back on here.

How can you say it hasnt worked I don't get this. Its scientifically impossible for it NOT to work man. Gotta dig deep and try!

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How can you say it hasnt worked I don't get this. Its scientifically impossible for it NOT to work man. Gotta dig deep and try!

DKnighten read the Baylor study, get a grasp of epigenetics and you'll realised you ain't screwed. All I'll say.

[Turnover25]

Let’s chill out dudes, this is one of our own just having a hard time. We all know it’s tough. This place is a place for growth, but also empathy and compassion. That’s what makes it swolesource. DK is a good kid who’s been dealt a bad hand, and his emotions are understandable. We can’t crumble every time someone wants to challenge how we do things. Gotta strive to be better and set an example

[MungYarlon]

Let’s chill out dudes, this is one of our own just having a hard time. We all know it’s tough. This place is a place for growth, but also empathy and compassion. That’s what makes it swolesource. DK is a good kid who’s been dealt a bad hand, and his emotions are understandable. We can’t crumble every time someone wants to challenge how we do things. Gotta strive to be better and set an example

Agreed.

[Zerolibido]

That's it bitch!!!


Get on the goddamn fucking protocol and stop being a.fooddqmn prissy b itch

This stuff is science bitch

[Zerolibido]

I wish I had us t a pfs buddy over the years would have avoided thatbtoxic.workplace probably