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weakling
01-02-2013, 06:43 PM
Currently on
900mg stano elite
300 morning, 300 lunch, 300 with pw

30mg epi elite
10 morning, 10 lunch, 10 pw

2ml trenazone
1ml morning and 1ml before bed

Taking joint rebuild, fish oil, and glucosamine

I'm 8 days in and my joints are pretty sore. Could be my workouts but I'm thinking I may need to back down on something. What do you think?

DJM
01-02-2013, 06:53 PM
with that combo you probably obliterated estrogen with all the androgenic activity, hence the bad joints......if it were me id lower the stano

Jelisej
01-02-2013, 06:57 PM
with that combo you probably obliterated estrogen with all the androgenic activity, hence the bad joints......if it were me id lower the stano

Yep. You can also add some estrogenic compound, for example lot of DHEA will raise your estrogens.

Rodja
01-02-2013, 07:44 PM
Do you stretch and foam roll? You could just be muscularly imbalanced.

weakling
01-02-2013, 08:27 PM
Thanks DJ. Ok I will drop the stano to 600mg and see how that goes thanks

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Yep. You can also add some estrogenic compound, for example lot of DHEA will raise your estrogens.

I have some androdrive left over. How much would you recommend?

weakling
01-02-2013, 08:27 PM
Do you stretch and foam roll? You could just be muscularly imbalanced.

I do but I'm going to do more

Grape Ape
01-02-2013, 10:08 PM
Try putting castor oil on em.

weakling
01-03-2013, 10:35 AM
Ok I'm dropping the stano to 450mg, keeping the epi at 30mg and dropping trenazone to 1ml. I may slowly increase my doses as the weeks go on.

I'm thinking about adding 3 pills of AD but I would like to hear a little more feedback on that.

Freepressright
01-03-2013, 11:33 AM
with that combo you probably obliterated estrogen with all the androgenic activity, hence the bad joints......if it were me id lower the stano

The Epi ain't doing him any favors either, from the joint comfort perspective.

markam
01-03-2013, 11:48 AM
The Epi ain't doing him any favors either, from the joint comfort perspective.

I can happily take 8 AH a day, but add in some epi and my joints are fkd big time. I would suggest either AH (preferably) or Epi, but def not both together.

Sounds like you've nuked your estrogen.

Freepressright
01-03-2013, 11:54 AM
I am a little surprised the 19nor activity of the Trenazone isn't offsetting this, but I definitely think Epi and Stano together might be a bit much for the joints. Back down the dose of Stano for sure.

weakling
01-03-2013, 04:17 PM
I did back the stano down by half. I feel pretty good but the real test will be at the gym later. Anything I can do on cycle to help my nuked estrogen?

Scope75
01-03-2013, 04:23 PM
Add some test or dhea into the mix.

weakling
01-03-2013, 08:13 PM
Add some test or dhea into the mix.

Will androdrive do the trick? 5-DHEA

I also have some testforce2. Which would you suggest?

Freepressright
01-04-2013, 07:56 AM
5-DHEA. Being on a DS/PH cycle, Testforce won't do anything.

weakling
01-04-2013, 11:04 AM
5-DHEA. Being on a DS/PH cycle, Testforce won't do anything.

I took a full dose of AD yesterday and today and the joints are feeling a little better. I hit the shoulders hard yesterday and I'm feeling good today!