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Jack O'Neill
01-04-2013, 07:53 AM
I planned to do my next cycle (in 2 months) with Trenazone and Androhard v3 (special thx to BBG for all advices)

Here what I planned:

Trenazone : 1.5/1.5/2/2/2 (110/110/150/150/150mg)
Androhard v3 : 9/9/9/9/9
Anastrozole : ?/?/?/?/?

For PCT:
Toremifene : 120/90/60/60/60/60
Exemestane : ?/?/?/?/?/?

Don't know how to dose Anastrozole and Exemestane

Quick stats : 6'1, ~200lbs
4 workouts/week
Planned to do HIIT 30mn 2x/week

Concerning diet, I planned to do keto diet with high amount of prots/fats (maintenance + 15%) and one carb refeed/week

My main aim is recomp

What do you think of this?

Scope75
01-04-2013, 08:12 AM
I think its going to rock!!!
Not sure in the AI question so I'll the knowledgeable guys handle that.
If I had more AHv3 I'd probably run it with Tbol and/or TZ.

xxiv
01-04-2013, 09:14 AM
Is the anastrozole included to combat possible gyno ? I am no expert but i don't think it is the best way to mitigate gyno risk with tren.

From what I've read anastrozole can be dosed eod or e3d @ .25 mg.

BoneDaddy
01-04-2013, 09:58 AM
Have you considered Clomid for PCT? It escapes me at the moment, but I swear reading around that Clomid is the better choice for a Tren product......I just can't recall the links or reasons damnit. Can anyone chime in here?

Jack O'Neill
01-04-2013, 01:38 PM
Have you considered Clomid for PCT? It escapes me at the moment, but I swear reading around that Clomid is the better choice for a Tren product......I just can't recall the links or reasons damnit. Can anyone chime in here?

I think torem is better than clomid in this kind of cycle . I'm waiting for specialists here

BBG
01-04-2013, 01:47 PM
Nolva is supposed to be avoided for tren like products, whereas torem or clomid are good to go.

I don't know if the nolva avoidance thing is true, but I avoid it anyway ;)

Scope75
01-04-2013, 02:10 PM
What type of PCT is nolva good for, or should one just stick to torem or clomid?

nate3993
01-04-2013, 02:34 PM
nolva is meh compared to clomid or torem. it just isn't as strong as the other 2.

Jack O'Neill
01-07-2013, 08:57 AM
After all advices and research, here is my future cycle :

Trenazone : 1.5/1.5/2/2/2 (110/110/150/150/150mg)
Androhard v3 : 9/9/9/9/9
Anastrozole : 0.25mg e3d

For PCT:
Toremifene : 120/90/60/60/60/60
Exemestane : 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5

Does it seem correct and fine for you?

Scope75
01-07-2013, 09:19 AM
Why so much AI use??
Are you know to get or do you already have gyno?

Jack O'Neill
01-07-2013, 10:42 AM
Why so much AI use??
Are you know to get or do you already have gyno?

No. Never
Just to prevent it

Scope75
01-07-2013, 11:23 AM
No. Never
Just to prevent it
You don't think 9AH will keep it under control??

Jack O'Neill
01-07-2013, 11:47 AM
You don't think 9AH will keep it under control??

Don't know. I need a specialist...

Jack O'Neill
01-07-2013, 01:31 PM
You don't think 9AH will keep it under control??

I would think that AH keep it under control during cycle but not after

Scope75
01-07-2013, 01:49 PM
Always good to have these AIs on hand but I would only use one if its needed.

BBG
01-07-2013, 02:08 PM
I peronsally use an AI on every cycle. I start off with a low dose, and if I need to, I bump it up. Especially if the compound aromatizes.

markam
01-07-2013, 03:48 PM
I would think that AH keep it under control during cycle but not after

From what I've read, AH 'may' keep E2 sides under control on a Tren cycle, but it's not guaranteed.
I wouldn't bother with such a high dose, personally, I'd say 6 AH would suffice, but you need to be prepared for the worst,
So take BBG's advice. I think Letro was said to be the one to use, but I'm not sure.

xxiv
01-07-2013, 04:51 PM
After all advices and research, here is my future cycle :

Trenazone : 1.5/1.5/2/2/2 (110/110/150/150/150mg)
Androhard v3 : 9/9/9/9/9
Anastrozole : 0.25mg e3d

For PCT:
Toremifene : 120/90/60/60/60/60
Exemestane : 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5

Does it seem correct and fine for you?

I think the trenazone dose is fine, 1.5 for me was great, 2 might have been better. I actually cut it short and have a little left over because I felt so insanely super I wanted to go out on with wind still in my sails. Together with 75 mg of mechabol I was infuego and the strength and endurance gains were beyond my expectations. From what I have read the AH is kinda high but not OOC. The low dose of anastrozole is fine, just be mindful of how yo are feeling and adjust accordingly.
I have no experience with those Pct components so I can't really comment.

For my next run (prolly 6 months from now) I was thinking about stano at 600mg for 7 weeks, 1 week in start running mechabol 75mg for 6 weeks. 2 weeks in start trenazone at 1.5 for 5 weeks. 3 weeks in start Anastrozole e3d at .25 through the end of pct.
pct... daa, clomid and anastrozole.

Fairly similar cycles, fairly similar goals. Proper support is integral. I hope you log.

This may be helpful. Dienolone (Trenazone) Bible | Designer Steroids | TunedSports.com - Legal Anabolic Steroid Pro-hormone Supplement Blog. (http://tunedsports.com/designer-steroids/dienolone-trenazone-bible/)

markam
01-07-2013, 06:50 PM
Might be worth reading. Don't know how legit it is, though.

anastrozole vs letrozole (http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/anastrozole-vs-letrozole-613680.html)

markam
01-07-2013, 06:57 PM
Also found this: Datbtrue (http://www.datbtrue.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?340-good-pct&highlight=Clomid)
Interesting what he has to say about Clomid and Toremefine (on first page). I would go with Clomid
as I wouldn't want to run the risk of getting bunk Toremefine.

Jack O'Neill
01-08-2013, 07:53 AM
Fairly similar cycles, fairly similar goals. Proper support is integral. I hope you log.

Yes. Sure!