1g 11-OXO

[Grape Ape]

I've done my research so I know what to expect, but I do like to get reports of first hand experience and be able to ask my questions. This is the best place to do this...

With the disappearance of 11-KT spray and the extini of Androlean, the next best option is 11-oxo in bulk powders.

For those who have run 11-oxo, what was your dosage, cycle leangth and experience?

I'm looking at 800-1000mg for 6 weeks right now. This will be stacked of course. Anyone run this high of a dose?

[markam]

Hard to tell as it was stacked, but I'm pretty sure high dose 11-oxo gave me bad lethargy.

There's 200mg of 11-oxo in 6 caps of AL, but it's more effective than plain 11-oxo, and AL also contains 200mg 7-keto.

I'd start with 3 doses of 100mg ed taken with 150ml grapefruit juice and 5ml Mct oil.

[Jack O'Neill]

Do you think powder can really replace Androlean??

[Grape Ape]

as the precursor to 11-KT in androlean, which was only dosed at 200mg; I do. Don't know the bioavailability/conversion rate but I'd imagine 1g would Atleast be as anabolic.

I'm not really here to argue that, and unles you have some androlean or 11-KT spray you want to sell me when the time comes, this is my option.

Let's stay on topic.

[DJM]

before there was lean or 11kt, guys were running PA 11oxo and cel's version 800-1000mg ed, gets pricey but works at that amount .....on a cut, dont expect much anabolism

[Grape Ape]

Hard to tell as it was stacked, but I'm pretty sure high dose 11-oxo gave me bad lethargy.

There's 200mg of 11-oxo in 6 caps of AL, but it's more effective than plain 11-oxo, and AL also contains 200mg 7-keto.

I'd start with 3 doses of 100mg ed taken with 150ml grapefruit juice and 5ml Mct oil.

The lethargy was an issue on my mind, and if I buy powder I might try to suspend it in EVOO and dose with an oral syringe.

Could always stack a lower dose with some of the 7-KT sprays out there.

Matt, needs to get over here. I remeber him saying he ran a gram of 11-oxo. Time to hit google again.

[markam]

Article by Patrick Arnold. 11-oxo as a Bridge, also discusses dosages.

ARE YOU GETTING THE MOST FROM YOUR CYCLE?? (http://www.netrition.com/articles/getting_most_from_cycle.html)

[MstenTheNewKing]

You can always try LGI's 11-X

[BBG]

Smart Powders sells bulk 11-oxo. I've run it at 1 gram a day, along with androhard. It worked, but nothing amazing.

[derekh83]

You could try PA's 11 spray. 11 Spray (http://www.prototypenutrition.com/11-KT-Spray-p/11.htm)

[DJM]

You could try PA's 11 spray. 11 Spray (http://www.prototypenutrition.com/11-KT-Spray-p/11.htm)

discontinued in light of what went down in oregon

[markam]

Smart Powders sells bulk 11-oxo. I've run it at 1 gram a day, along with androhard. It worked, but nothing amazing.

Yep, tried it at 900mgs ed and most the notable thing was the lethargy. The AL dosage seems to be best imo, and combining 7-keto works well.

[Grape Ape]

Back to the drawing boards then, boys. More questions to come.

[harbonah]

I ran it at 1gram a day it worked wonders on a cut might have been lethargic if not for the EC stack I was running at the same time can say I gained on it but I leaned out really well on that cut.

Wasnt androhard "3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one"? if so LGI stano-200 would be the same as would katanadrolV3 but that is way to low of a dose to use for a real cycle.

[markam]

Back to the drawing boards then, boys. More questions to come.

What were you hoping to achieve with it? It is effective, and very mild. I've heard that you don't even need a pct if you're running it solo at 300mg. It will have some anabolic effect at high dosages, but imo, it's best used to limit catabolism when on a calorie deficit. Best to stack it with Stanodrol, Keto-7 (as in AL), or Epi (if you're ok with methyls). I wouldn't stack Epi with Stanadrol as you may well suffer with sore joints. As you probably know, Tren is very good on a cut, but it comes with a few issues you need to be aware of.

[Enuke65]

11KT is in stock again at PN for those who were looking

[nate3993]

11KT is in stock again at PN for those who were looking

my friend's gonna be ecstatic. he was using 3 lean a day to extend his cycle. i told him not worth it, so he finally bumped it up to 6. i'm sure he'll be very happy. haha

[Halogenix]

I've done my research so I know what to expect, but I do like to get reports of first hand experience and be able to ask my questions. This is the best place to do this...

With the disappearance of 11-KT spray and the extini of Androlean, the next best option is 11-oxo in bulk powders.

For those who have run 11-oxo, what was your dosage, cycle leangth and experience?

I'm looking at 800-1000mg for 6 weeks right now. This will be stacked of course. Anyone run this high of a dose?

500 around 400mg (forget the exact dosage, it was CEL's '11-sterone'. Worked very well on a cut, with noticeable leaning. Ran it for 5 weeks the first time and 3 weeks for another (bridge).

It seemed to have preserved muscle but I had zero increases on strength/hypertrophy/performance/intensity. Perhaps a more anabolic effect is exhibited at 1g dosages, but even then it is likely to be very mild.