Turnover25
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@Outlaw banana’s we’re fine for me, I avoided blueberries, strawberries, cruciferous veggies, and steak/beef. Pretty sure that’s it.

You sound a lot like me. I waited months because like you, I was a student and didn’t want to risk crashing cuz I’d fail tests or whatever. That’s a bad mindset, your causing yourself a ton of subconscious stress, and the most important part of PFS is stress. Half these motherfuckers think they have PFS but in reality they are obsessively stressing over a condition they read about online so cortisol is suppressing their sex hormones and keeping them in the bad state PFS put them in. I wouldn’t doubt that half my problem with the whole folate thing was just how bad it stressed me out.

Taking an abundance of folate isn’t going to crash you, I’d get it over with if you’re looking for a way to heal. If it doesn’t work, then at least you know, and can reevaluate. Instead of sitting there for months debating and freaking yourself out.

Any other foods you avoided with this folate shit? Apart from blueberries/beef/brocoli.

I ask because folate is everywhere, but it looks like stuff with folate doesnt crash me while others do. A month ago, I was eating oranges with no problem, but beef crashes me. I also think I read that you eat bananas, which have 2x as much folate as blueberries. So it seems weird. Since fixing your folate you're positive you can eat steak, beef, etc? Like you tried it?

I just wanna be careful what I eat in the next weeks because if I recrash I will fail my semester. I'm scheduled to pass my Bar next fall so I would be fucked lol.

After that I will try Fredd's protocol, and hopefully it will clear my intensified PFS symptoms and will allow me to eat what I want.

Man you had balls of steel, trusting the protocol of a guy that sounded confusing. And good to know you can now eat those things.

I'll wait for my 23nme just to be sure cause Im too scared, and if I have the mutation I'll try it. I think I'm all set information wise. Thanks a lot for the help man, I appreciate it so much

@outlaw I had alot of the same questions as you, I learned this from a guy on Phoenix rising who was confusing as shit, Jado said the same. Name was Freddd.

He told me to load up on B12 for a few days, but I don’t think you have to. And I think the issue would more so be if you took B12 for a long extended period of time without folate, not a couple days. You just want enough, that’s what I did but I don’t think it’s necessary. I did that mainly because I was testing for methyltrap. I’d recommend the same.

Blueberries were bad, so was steak and all beef. I can eat both now, but I don’t. I think I just associate them with the whole experience. Strawberries too. I still can’t handle broccoli. But I think that’s due to a PFS related food intolerance, but I did eat blueberries the other day just because my friend wanted some and he was staying with me, felt fine

Yeah I got the good brands, thanks.

You say you took b12 for a couple days before the folate, but in your post you say we should always take b12 with folate, and never alone. Just wanna make sure what's right.

Also, I just read on your post that blueberries made you crash. That's fucked up, because my last meal before I crashed, I ate 3 packs of blueberries with yogurt. I thought it was the beef I had for dinner (contains b12), but it looks clearcut, it has to be those damn blueberries, and I took a lot too. Can you eat those now or they still fuck you up?

@Outlaw you want to take enough B12, too little and you’ll cause a methyltrap. Which is too little B12 to transport folate so the folate gets trapped in the cell. I loaded up on B12 for a couple days before hand but I don’t think that’s necessary. Too much B12 is bad also. I’d take the couple of B12’s beforehand, take your folate (preferably at least 30,000 mcg) then after I’d do one more of each B12. There’s no blueprint man I just fucked with it, listen to your body. It really will react instantly, like if I take too much B12 and it depletes folate, I’ll know cuz anxiety, then I take more folate, and it stops, vice versa. It’s not that confusing you’d just have to try it to get it.

Make sure you get the correct brands. Also these are water soluble vitamins, meaning you piss out the excess, it’s not the same as taking a fuck ton of vitamin A, which would be dangerous.

I'm trying to figure out from your thread your amount of B12. I think you did
((5000mg folate + 1 B12) x 3 )
+ 2 types of b12 + niacin + potassium

But that's still 5000mg of methylb12, and the recommended RDA is 2.4mg. So I'm still scared as fuck lol

Ok I'm seriously considering it. And once I "saturate" my body with folate, my body then learns to methylate without causing such a deficiency, meaning I'm good and I don't need to do this shit forever?

I ask about the methylb12 because I wanna take as little as possible. If I can simply take it after my rounds of folate that would be cool, but since b12 helps transports folate, wouldn't I also need it after the rounds? Otherwise they would not be efficient?

I will order the stuff

@Outlaw I’d have to read the thread, I don’t think so? Maybe. But there is no need for that. The only reason I would have done that was to make sure I have enough B12. But I’ve done it dozens of times now just because I feel great at high doses and I don’t do that now.

You could cure this in 15 minutes. That’s why I’m saying give it a try. The thing you need to realize with methylfolate is that the more you take, the less side effects you get. This is due to folate being used up in methylation causing a deficiency, paradoxically. You take a small amount, methylation kickstarts and rapidly uses up your small amount of folate. Now you’re in a deficiency. Same with broccoli, small amount, methylation, depletion, deficiency.

There is a medication called Deplin, that is just 7000 mcg of methylfolate. Thats the smallest dose. That’s the amount scientists deemed good enough to stop side effects.

Thanks a lot. I understand you took extra B12 after your rounds of folate, but you also still took one 1000mg methylb12 immediately after each folate round?

So basically I can cure this in a single day? Or I might have to keep doing it a bit.

I just ordered a 23andme gene test to see if I have the MTHFR mutation.