i mean i had my best months ever as far as well-being goes. i never said it was "no improvement". i meant there was just no improvement sexually. i think i said that. not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
i mean i had my best months ever as far as well-being goes. i never said it was "no improvement". i meant there was just no improvement sexually. i think i said that. not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
Just to clarify some things, the herbs influence your feeling of well-being 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by K8668B
So you are responding to the herbs you're just not having any sexual responses yet.
I told you from the beginning you were going to be a tough nut to crack... You just need to Keep On Keepin On... It's either that or do nothing. If you do nothing I guarantee you're not going to get anywhere.
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Right on.
sigh... ive just been down lately.
I feel like im the most noobish pfs sufferer of all time. seems like everyone has all this knowledge and stuff.
everyone seems to acquire all these herbs, prohormones, probiotics, products etc at such a fast pace.
how do you guys manage your time as far as forum time and research time goes? im usually out and about, working, at the gym, doing errands/chores, etc. i rarely check my phone while im at work too. im trying to get more TIME in my favor though.
in a few weeks, the next thing im maybe going to run is the androsterone from haidut on raypeat forum. even thought i heard mixed reviews about that one as well.
Honestly, what more "research" do you need to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by K8668B
Everything you need to know and focus on is here man.
What do you feel like you're missing?
@KB
It sounds like you are still recovering from smoking/nicotine. All the symptoms you describe sound like downregulated dopamine especially since you said this episode took a down hill turn two months and you quit vaping two months ago ( I remember your PM). I used to abuse stimulants a lot and when I came off them I felt like hell too and I can't even imagine doing it with PFS.
Now, please take my advice with a VERY small grain of salt, but if you are really feeling that bad and you can't even do normal everyday shit anymore, if it was me I would maybe try a vape hit or two and see how I felt. If I immediately felt much much better well it just proves a lot of your downswings were from smoking/nicotine withdrawal, if you don't really notice any improvement than it would be best to completely stay off any nicotine related products. Personally, I don't think vaping is that bad for health (as compared to smoking a cigarette) and if it does resolve a lot of your downward symptoms again, it may be best to continue vaping and once you get through PFS than focus on quitting vaping.
Again, it is up to you, but if you really get suck in a rut and just feel completely useless, I would say it might be best continuing with vaping (or using some sort of nicotine product like gum too) IF you do notice an improvement again after taking a few hits then once your completely restored from PFS then focus on quitting nicotine. I don't think vaping will prevent you from recovering as maxout uses dip occasionally and recovered during this entire process. I vaped and used nicotine gum on and off as well, didn't seem to negatively impact anything. I think you have been a dedicated guy to CD's protocol and hate to see you keep suffering from both PFS and nictotine withdrawals.
Concur with this 100%. I don't believe the use of tobacco/nicotine was detrimental in recovery at all. If anything, maybe helpful. One time, I smoked a Cuban cigar on my back porch and came back in and (at that time) had the best sex I had to that point during recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by TubZy
I still dip to this day, as well. Not a real clean habit, but doesn't really seem to affect my health much.
K866 For as much knowledge as anyone has about this stuff, there is still much to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by K8668B
And at the end of the day, what we can rely on is the experience from the guys that made it out like CD, English, Maxout, etc...
Not all of us have every product or easy access to them. I try to stay focused on what I have now and what I can do now.
Also in my case, I was struggling with carpal tunnel syndrome and just learned of the boost I could get from a little extra Vitamin B.
The source told me it would take time, a minimum of 3 months to heal carpal tunnel. 5 days in and I'm already getting relief.
Good thing I didn't go on corticosteroid injections when it seemed impossible. I stuck to doing things within the guidelines of the regimen.
Point is you gotta stay looking up and work with what you can, don't deviate too much when things don't seem to work.
Sometimes like my case, we can be so malnourished from pfs. It will take TIME to rebuild even something as simple as Vit-B levels, which aids metabolism of protein, fats and carbs among other things.
Tubzy, its ironic you say that about the nicotine. In the last 7 or 8 days, ive been having some crazy cravings. But ill take your idea into consideration, and with a grain of salt like you said. Makes sense. Im going to try to stay non smoking though. Only if it gets THAT bad though. @maxout- nice on the cuban cigar! i was a menthol guy before. And Hulk, definitely. Easier said than done, but youre right. Another 3-day juice feast could be something I might do in the very near future. Fuck pfs, and fuck the 2014 prohormone ban. =) =)
Any updates from this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by K8668B
@Cdsnuts, @Maxout777, did you guys bother talking to this guy? I accidently found his thread over at hackstasis, and he’s taking growth hormones, testosterone and getting fucked on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOPE
Says all symptoms healed except sexual ones after 8 months of herb cycling/protocol… which isn’t a bad timeline at all. Probably would’ve healed by now had he stuck with it. Might want to speak to this guy briefly looks like he’s a little lost.
Bother? We talked him through quite a bit. My last exchange with him on Hack Stasis he essentially flamed Cdsnuts, and bashed this whole protocol if I remember correctly. Not sure what he's doing now. Wish the best for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOPE
Can't believe he went on GH and testo after only 8 months of trying? Why would he stop if he was improving? Doesnt make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOPE
Now the GH & Testo fkd him up?
Too many ideas, and signs of improvement and testing but no clear recovery at HS.
I had a feeling if I was gonna recover this was the only place with a clear path.
I left HS behind.
Hope he finds his way.
I put ALOT of time into helping him in the beginning....only for him to turn around and bad mouth me because HE couldn't maintain the protocol correctly. And believe me, he didn't "try" for 8 months. He talked, and whined......you don't "try" the protocol. You "do" the protocol.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOPE
He couldn't hack it.
Already tried speaking with him RIGHT in the beginning. Now he's just making himself worse and worse. I have nothing to say to him. I hope he finds his way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
Lol, you need to get some new material ! I think YOU'RE the one who whines and "can't hack it"! Lol!! And for the record, im still putting the work in, inside and outside of PFS, and i know the deal!
"Justttt dooo da protocolllll""" "justttt do da faahhhking protocol" "durrr" LOLLL.
And to the few who said nice things about me, and wished me well, Thank you, and i hope the same for you all as well. For the record, I am still going through it, but i'm doing alright. But I will find a way regardless. I'm still around in the PFS community but on other forums. But I'm not gonna sit around and argue back and forth with Mr."nuts" and listen to nonsense. Have a good day!
Lol. What can't I hack there K? The fact that I'm healed and trying to help others do the same? Not sure why you took it as an afront when it was simply the truth. If you would have stayed on the "protocollll" you would have been healed by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by K8668B
Very childish response/reaction. It doesn't surprise me you're still in the state you're in.
Good luck to you though.
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