yeah we got no sun in Toronto during the winter though so sun lamp is a cheeky substitute haha
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Jacknap do you work with/use you computers a lot?
My sleep has improved a lot since I started wearing blue light filtering glasses when looking at screens. I'd recommend them if you need a little boost for your messed up sleep pattern. Sounds like you're almost there though.
is anything on cd nuts protocol or anything in general a blood thickener?
I've been having some weird 'heart tightening feeling' and I went to get quarterly STI test and my blood was super thick... one of the herbs maybe? I do megadose a lot of them.
still feeling pretty damn good but having some strange ball pain. similar to the pain I had before I crashed... maybe balls coming back online?
I got an STI test I don't have anything lol.
starting r-andro 5th cycle. I have enough for 600mg so wanna try it. is there anything that's healthy that boosts estrogen to prevent estrogen crash? perhaps schizandra once a week? I like to swtich it up. I've done 3 400mg r-andros and one 400 with 200 4 andro. 4 andro too suppressive for me so fuck that
the few times i bumped up to 600mg tho felt incredible and I might need that to take me over the edge because I think I was a high dht guy. was always a bit evil, crazy sex drive, ambitious but lazy, lean but cut and super high strength to weight ratio.
yeah I know you warned me before lol. How deep into 600 did you start getting the bad sides? 600 feels better for me then 400 so far. I've done 600 for a week before until u and cd warned me but I feel like trying something new. the gum thing I had on my first cycle for a bit but now I don't get it. thinking maybe I have some tolerance
tubzy used to go up to 900 lol
libido was a bit lower today. it was deadlift day though and I also lowered my caffeine intake.
I wonder which of the two was the culprit.
was thinking as a natural lifting heavy sucks of all free T to be used for libido. that's one of my theory
but also the higher dose coffee more dopamine more arousal.
I did have ED waaaay back in 2014 when I went cold turkey off coffee at one point. so interesting thing. I had a weird libido ive mentioned many times here where it was high, yet sensitive.
yeah maybe i'll just drop it to 400 again and then just do a longer cycle of 600. I got not time to stress about bad sides anymore LOL. thanks for the second warning bro
cant stand another drop in libido but dealing with that shit tooooo long for a dude in his 20s
don't really notice much of a difference yet from 600 vs. 400 so save money lol
4 andro combo was delicious but the 3 weeks suppression after sucked a fat dick / gave me anxiety so probably not going that rode again
3 weeks andro cycle.
Feeling pretty good. I got a really hot russian girl 18 year old that I'm dating and she wants to fuck all the time lmao like her loads but keeping it open because I'm really enjoying the game right now. She's cool with it for now. I'm 28 love me the youngin's
Sleep and libido are main dodgy issues that come and go but the lows aren't that low and I have a looooooooot of sex now like 7+ times a week usually.
Not even sure if I can say I'm recovered or not. There are many days where I'm 100%. Going to reass at the 2 year anniversery of my crash June 2019 and maybe stop taking anything to just see where I'm at but the protocol is so fun for me and in some ways I'm better then I was before I crashed :)
thought I'd give a positive update because I have propensity to just come on here when I'm in a downswing and need moral support haha
debating whether to hop off andro cycle or not. I've done 4 weeks so far. first 10 days or so I did 600mg but my joints are a bit stiffish mostly just behind my right knee
libido is decent but thinking get out while i'm ahead to avoid crushing estrogen. thing is doesn't seem to getting worse either just stabilized that stiff right knee which is a pain in the ass for sprints / squats but still doable.
my joint is still stiff as fuck but libido or anything hasn't gotten worse yetthink
I think I did only like 6-10 days at 600mg though
think I should power through last 2 weeks and maybe even dial down to 200mg?
thinking dial down to 200mg for last 2 weeks (did 4 week cycle)
it's not terrible just right knee joint is stiff as fuck lol it does help when I stretch it out a bit too
I have to probably take a month off all supplements / phenibut but I'd say given like the past 2-3 weeks I'm basically recovered.
95-110% oscillation. A little under a year since crashing (crashed June 2). Will wait it out a bit before I make a recovery post. I have some relatively benign things that linger. For example I still have like one morning wake that I didn't used to have before but I quickly fall back asleep and sometimes my dick feels a bit numb (but I think I might just be overly paying attention to the way my dick feels lol)
really happy and I feel like I came back from the dead. thanks for everyone for helping me on my journy. namely cdnuts and maxout. read everything these guys have to say and just stay on the path.
I questioned recovery but I just did what I had to do cuz the time will pass anyways. read everything and maxout posted on here 2-3 times and don't expect to be spoon fed and be lazy because the truth is no one cares about you as much as you do so be your own best friend and do it up.
I go to sex clubs and I'm one of the top 3-5 guys in terms of sex drive there. Shit works to take you to recovery and beyond. In ways i'm actually thankful I crashed. Learned about cool things, learned about who was truly my friend, learned about how my parents are, makes me grateful for my life even more everyday. Learned about how fucked the medical system is. Just made me an overall more bad ass person. And hell didn't really damage me too much because I'm 28 and people still think I look early 20s.
I have an open relationship with a 10/10 Russian 18 year old and I make her cum silly. She thought I was 21 when we first met. Life is good. Thank you so much cd. Consider this kinda an informal recovery post. If I end up going to Greece this summer will probably take a month off of herbs etc. so will be able to make a true recovery post.
Ricardo has me on facebook and sees how I'm having a great time in life haha.
Congrats.. & yes wait it out .. & when your ready experiment with drugs, booze, & being off supplements.. then you’ll know.. & when you know, hop back on the protocol.. you owe it to yourself to be a 200% man.. you know how it is to not have your vitality, cherish that shit, & take it to new heights, don’t settle for 100% now. Try to be a superhuman.
stoked for you man, you've finally made it. our journeys were closely related on a timeline scale, glad you see the light. i've not been bad myself, not quite there yet but i'll be up in that rec section with ya one day. also, i'm pretty damn sure I saw a video on youtube that must've been made by you. keep it up bud, have your fun but keep yourself balanced bro! stay away from the blow
Congrats my man, you deserve it. Couldn’t be happier for you.
I've been holding off for more time under my belt as well, but this upswing I'm in has broken through a barrier. Again still too early and I'm not ready to pronounce my recovery yet, but in the back of my mind when you know you know.
Been like a year, year and a half or so for myself.
Good to hear about you man. I don't want to hear about any STDs from you. Good luck.
yeah I made a warning video on ru58841 when i was like 80% recovered as a warning to stay away for people having second thoughts.
One of my friends used it too and got terrible sides even on TRT, luckily he didn't crash though.
haha blow wasn't really my drug of choice it was more modafinil for work, shrooms/lsd for creative work etc.
cd and maxout specifically. I have like 1 and half bottles of andro left. I don't think I want to or need to cycle anymore but if I wanted to just do a cycle for fun and enhancement would running just like 100mg for 60 days be good enough? Cuz isn't even 100mg superphysiiological anyways?
tonight will be interesting as fuck. I had a fuck buddy before I crashed a year before 2016 and seeing her tonight. I asked her before she sees me to take not if she notices any differences between me then and now (besides being 3 years older probably aged a bit haha) I doubt she'll notice much of a difference but will be interesting!!! My friends at a wedding who didn't see me for a while didn't notice a difference (now that I consider myself recovered).
ok so we hung out all night! She had only good things to say. She said that I lost fat and I'm more lean (especially on the waist, my waist more tapered probably from the prohormones)
she also basically said my sex skills improved a lot! nothing negative then and only positive I've basically become a better person then when I was seeing her. AWESOME
she said my eyes look clearer and more resolute too. damn.
@Cdsnuts wanted your opinion on this. So the guy who I bought my 4-andro from and r-andro his paypal not working so he can't refund me (4 andro wouldnt go through) but r-andro is going through fine. Was thinking since he can't give me cash jsut to run another cycle but I don't really like using all the herbs anymore maybe like 10 of them and also I party hard. Do you think if I don't use many herbs and party hard etc. that I'll be suppressed after r-andro 8 week cycle or should it be fine?
i'm just gunna run the r-andro if I get it. I like the herbs just money is tight so i'm sticking to my favourite ones which is about 10 of them. (the others ones I don't feel anything from) I used them while recovering of course but now that i'm recovering just sticking to ones that I actually feel a difference. so going from that to our last question you think I could get suppressed? I haven't at all so far 6 cycles deep just don't want to get cocky. (only 4andro gave me suppression that i felt)
my favs that I will probably use always money providing for ppl wondering
1) pine pollen powder/tincture
2) ashwa (always forget to use it cuz it tastes like chalk)
3) rhodiola
4) cordy
5) tongkat
6) triblus
7) mucana
8) butea
9) shizandra
10) cant remember the other one probably missed one and added one too
11) black maca gela
something like that
also CD I started a podcast so if you're interested wanna do one together? ricky heard the first one and liked it can link you. it was about game but also gunna interview musicans that i know and like too and/or anyone who i think is cool and has value to share. will just being audio probably and also chance to shoot the shit. u can vito if u dont like it or just clip parts too. i
also for anyone following thread that is read to buy r-andro now could possibly ship it to you instead and just paypal me the money but I'd have to trust you as a poster I don't know a lot of the n00bs i'll see and if others vouch for you. was gunna sell to ricky but he's stocked for a while..
could use the cash and don't really want to keep doing cycles just want to build on natty but I'd rather run it then not run it and lose like 200$ cash lol naw sayn
not gunna give a discount though it's gunna be how much I paid for otherwise will run it if CD thinks i'll be fine
Hey man, how many r andro bottles do u have? Im thinking about buying it, paypal no probelm
You'll be fine man. I haven't heard of anyone getting shut down from DHT based PH's since I've started doing this whole thing, which is going on almost a decade now already. That's not saying it's not possible, it's just saying based on my knowledge and experience, it's not likely.
Send me the link to the Pod cast, I'd like to check it out. I wouldn't be opposed to joining you on an episode or so.
i'm going to do 2 channels one is about game and one is gunna be mainstream one depending on content i'll upload to my music channel if it's not controversial and game one if it's controversial (game is primarily for alphas and aspiring alpha my music channel for everyone)
CD and anyone else who thinks they have an idea
for cold showers is there even a point of doing it when it's like -10 outside? I live in toronto already cold as fuck walking to the subway station haha
cold showers in summer easy as pie but I feel like it's redundant in the winter. one thing I like about cold shower is it makes my face look great after because it tones down inflamattion but i'm pretty sure that being outside in cold does the exact same thing and it a certain point it's just too much stress on the system already