my saw palmetto side effects recovery journey - i am gonna WIN

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Originally Posted by Maxout777

I really should just use this line when I describe it lol. Would save me a shit ton of typing.....I talk too damn much.

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One of the biggest things I see here is that when guys hit a back track and they're doing the couple steps back they see it as a sign that the protocol is not working when in fact if they were to just hold on another couple of weeks they would see another push forward into new healing territory. One of the biggest things here is that guy's just don't stick with it long enough... once they go through a couple Cycles of moving forward, going back, moving more forward, they kind of get it and then they can stick with it for the Long Haul. They just have to make it past that one or two cycles to get it

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

One of the biggest things I see here is that when guys hit a back track and they're doing the couple steps back they it as a sign that the protocol is not working when in fact if they were to just hold on another couple of weeks they would see another push forward into new healing territory. One of the biggest things here is that guy's just don't stick with it long enough... once they go to a couple Cycles of moving forward going back moving more forward they kind of get it and then they can stick with it for the Long Haul. They just have to make it past that one or two cycles to get it

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Right. I've always just looked at it like "feeling like shit = new improvements next time", so in a sense I kinda look forward to the down, because it usually means next time I'm "up", it'll be significantly better than before. That's how I've always kept the course. And you're spot on - usually it takes 2-4 weeks at the MOST for me to come back "up".

Of course OP's mileage may vary but either way it's still forward progress. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

recent improvement: faster beard growth

Recent improvement: libido bounced back. Good erection. Spontaneous erection the day after sex.

Update: today had a few lustful thoughts and decent erection. Will add meditation to my routine. Anybody know of any good guided meditation online? Thanks

Holosync

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Originally Posted by Snell1234

Holosync

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I second this and many others will as well. If you want to trial it first, you can find samples on YouTube.

Glad to see you've been having improvement. Same as you, I'm a saw palmetto sufferer. Any advice for someone looking to finally tackle this thing?

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Originally Posted by flamingpie

Glad to see you've been having improvement. Same as you, I'm a saw palmetto sufferer. Any advice for someone looking to finally tackle this thing?

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Yes. READ.

Please...rather then come here and make your first post asking someone a question about how to fix this, when a good portion of the guys are here to do just that, all you need to do is read to find out what people are doing.

To ask this question in the middle of a thread is lazy, and it throws the thread off topic.

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Originally Posted by alphawinner

Update: today had a few lustful thoughts and decent erection. Will add meditation to my routine. Anybody know of any good guided meditation online? Thanks

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How to Meditate

Read this for mindfulness. It's better not to be reliant on guided meditation, you should be able to take meditation with you wherever you go imo. There are other types of meditation too like metta and wim hoff breathing but it's always best to start with concentration and mindfulness.