No...you won't heal if you spend your life in panic mode
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Honestly, my problem is in the opposite direction if anything...I've always been someone that maybe doesn't get stressed out enough about things. Almost like an indifference that keeps me from being as assertive and disciplined as I should be about getting stuff done.
I would describe myself as one part nerd, one part athlete, one part hippie lol. My biggest struggle is not panic, but indifference. Motivation is emotional, and lack of emotions with pfs at times can mean lack of drive...even when logically it should be there.
I made a huge mistake, I was doing really well up until now, I was basically at 100% recovery if not, maybe even better then before.
I used the BM at a higher pressure for 1 minute, and for some reason I thought I may have caused some damage, tried to get a boner and It wasnt that strong, so after freaking out, one thing led to another, I ended up masterbating 4x in one night, as my libido was extremely high. I was able to maintain a 9/10 boner but it wasnt stable as before.
Anyhow now of course after breaking that simple part of the protocol, I cant get a a perfect boner, and I cant sleep from anxiety from what the outcome was. I'm extremely scared that I have damaged myself with the bathmate after very small usage. My penis does hurt a bit, but I dont see any physical changes. I do have normal range of libido which makes me thing I have damage from the BM.
Anyone have this kind of experience with the BM?
i think you should recover your penis just don't use the BM for at least like two weeks. maybe check with a doctor too. they're usually useful for these kinds of mechanical things. also google other peoples experiences..
what was the sign that you thought u went to far?
I researched it on the web, it seems its pretty common, I just have some pain, on my shaft near the base, there isn't any physical appearances that look different to me. I stress way to much about small things, making it impossible to sleep, which is needed to recover this. Also I masterbated four times, when I never masterbated in one month, that could also have caused this, its not clear.
You very simply, need to calm down. I know this is easier said then done.
Do the breathing exercises for 5-6 rounds and you will be calm and centered.
Apologies in advance for a little tough love here brother. I would seriously suggest you stop looking for symptoms...If you get PFS, you will know. Anyone who beats off four times and can still get a "9/10 boner" and have it just be a little sore is likely in pretty good fucking shape. All the issues you are worried about are 99.999% likely caused by the worrying itself. Do yourself a huge favor and 1) Follow the protocol for your general health, 2) Forget about fucking PFS and 3) Just enjoy your life.
My penis has been hurting for 4 days now. My morning wood is gone, but my libido is still here. I just hope I did not permanently damage my penis.
I can get an erection if I try hard, unlike before where it came with ease. Even when I have an erection, its not to comfortable.
I'm loving the pumping, but I noticed some blood in my load today. I did a 20 minute pump session earlier, guess I'll go a little easier on the fella next round.
Blood in your load isn't all that rare, usually an isolated incident. Also, other dude you didn't break your dick, rest it, apply heat and go easier when your injury is healer.
I went to the Urologist this morning, he said from his examination, everything seemed to be find, but I do have pain.
I can still get a 9/10 erection and it wont hurt, but when flacid my penis feels like its stretching, there is pain, which is really annoying, and it freaks me out since I already have Finasteride damage, I cant be dealing with more emotionally.
On a side note I bought up propecia to the DR, and he was extremely pro it, to the extent he actually takes it himself, his hair was indeed full.
@Cdsnuts new mention feature added
so in addition to using it 3x a week for 20 minutes if I got a bad bitch lined up can I do an extra 10 mintes for dat pump?
fucking girls 1-2 hours after pumping is getting addicting. I can feel that stretching out sooo good lol
You can. Nay, you should.
The thread is posted by cd but it's in the stickies.
It seems the pain is starting to subside, still have something, but not near as bad as two weeks ago when this all started. My erection quality is weak, and If I get an erection at night it might hurt a few minutes only after the erection has gone. If I masterbate the pain will stay for 30 minutes around. My pelvic floor also can hurt a bit time to time, but not always.
I masterbated after two weeks, I had sex, then masterbated with the girl, but I do try to get erections very often since that helps my mind know I'm potent and have no need to worry, it helps me sleep deeper. But I dont do anything more then just try to get erections usually.
Okay, but regardless, what you're doing is unhealthy behavior. Normal activities of healthy people don't include checking to see if they can get an erection five times a day. I know where you're coming from, I've been there, which is why I'm telling you, you need to stop and start focusing on the other things. Bring yourself into the present. Any time you feel this unhealthy desire to check your dick, do some breathing exercises. Drop and do some push ups.....any thing other then what you're doing.
You're going to cause yourself more unhealthy mind fucks by continuing to do this.
And I know you say you're just checking "usually" but I know your spanking it bro. Too much. I've been doing this a long time and I can feel the OCDness of your writing. Not judging, like I said....I've been there. Just trying to help you out.
Redirect your focus on one of the many other facets of the protocol. It's a much healthier alternative.
Hello,
I have done a decent amount of research on understanding the risks involved in penis pumping (now that I have an injury), and it seems that there are many risks involved with this action.
It seems there are actually only seven FDA approved pumps on the market, which treat ED (this is the main reason we PFS victims are using it for), the main qualification by the FDA, is the pressure they have, as anything above a certain pressure amount is considered dangerous -https://www.augustams.com/medical-grade-vacuum-erection-device/
There are also a whole host of horror stories on the internet about people who have been trying to recover years from either a bathmate, or other vacuum devices. Granted most are happy, but we are back to the whole Finasteride story then, as this would be a comparable of how many people are happy as opposed to those who were damaged by it. Some people have a less sensitive manhood as apposed to others.
Using a bathmate, or any of these devices that have the above recommended pressure, is part of the Penis Enlargement game, there are tons of sources from the professional medical world, that will tell you to stay far from Penis enlargement exercises -https://texaspenilesurgery.com/dangers-of-trendy-penis-enlargement-exercises/
Vacuum devices also don't naturally draw blood, it pulls in arterial blood, not venous blood. - A Urologist told me this, and you can confirm this with other urology establishments as I did.
End of day, it seems using a penile pump can be controversial.
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Exactly my point, thats why I ended my message with "End of day, it seems using a penile pump can be controversial.".
If the FDA can recommend something that is unsafe (FIN), event he more so something they wont approve is unsafe, in our case its the pressure volume we are talking about.
There are risks in many things we do in life. When it comes to pumping erring on the side of caution is always recommended.
That being said the bathmate is a phenomenal tool for increasing penis function. If you don't want to use it, don't use it.
Agree, but not be disrespectful or anything of that sort, if I may ask, to be fair, shuldn't the pumping page be changed to notify us of the possible injuries that can happen?
Currently the pumping page states the following: "Isn’t it dangerous? The answer to both is no". The text of the page seems to advertise that the pump is indeed very safe, when clearly you just stated "There are risks".
what would be a very safe way to maximize the benefits and minimize the risk?
right now I built to doing 20 minutes pumping with 3-4 1 minute breaks in there with a pretty full erection
so far so good but I don't wanna risk ruining my shit lol
IMO If your getting regular morning erections (which I was) I would stop completely. If not pump a half an inch under your erect length. Ideally the worse part of the bathmate is there is no pressure gauge which means you can hurt yourself without even trying to. Remember the measurements printed on the bathmate device is NOT accurate, so you cant rely on that, this alone has also confused me, causing my injury.
And yes, permanent damage to your penile tissue is possible with this pump, but only in extreme rare cases. Hopefully I will recover.
If you feel that my input is inconsistent with your beliefs on this product, I would recommend you do a bit of research on the web, which has tons of free, and helpful information which can easily be accessible. This has similar side effects according to many as fin itself.
Bathmate Injury: 8 Issues to Watch for Using a Penis Pump
Bathmate Injury and Side Effects - AHCAFR
Lmfao, you need to be preempted, that putting your penis under vacumm pressure could be dangerous?
Does anyone research shit before they use it anymore? Who cares what he wrote. If you do any actual research, or think for a half a second, anyone would assume there’s inherent assumed risk. No matter what any stupid forum I read says.
It is safe. I've never had anyone complain....not once. It's been years. I've been using it personally for years with no problems. Only benefits.
You can't hurt yourself without realizing it. You can very easily tell if you're pumping too hard. At which point, if you have some sense, you back it down. It regulates itself.
Given these things, and, no offense, the nature of your posts, I would take what you're saying with a grain of salt.
Anything in life can be damaging without proper education. This is the reason absolutely no one wants to help most PFS victims. Most are just absolutely spoiled senseless and want to just have someone tell them exactly what to do and how to do it without ANY effort of their own. And then when something doesn't work exactly as planned or things don't go right for them, they blame the party who's spending their precious time helping for the event that happens. It's sickening, disrespectful and straight up grade school bullshit.
These are suggestions that people post on websites, including CDs. As with anything, I cannot stress enough that you should do your own research on these things. Even I did prior to implementing CDs protocol for my own recovery. And when I did use the BM, I read forums related to the topic and found proper routines and ways to use it properly (what exercises to do, how many pumps, and how long). If you dont do your own research and just do it on your own, guess who is the sole responsible party for the result?
It starts with a Y, rhymes with who, and you see them in the mirror every morning upon awakening.
I did research how to use this pump, and I did use it many times previously with no negative results, I actually only used it for like 1-5 minutes Max always, This time I used it for 1.5 minutes just to get it done. I just got extremely unlucky clearly, second damage to my Penis in 6 months. Sucks for me in that case.