A few tips for crushing this B.S.
1. Don't look in the mirror for a few months
2. Keep your cortisol(stress) levels down consistently (its a game changer)
3. Be consistent with TMO
Thats what helped get out of my slump quicker than ever.
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A few tips for crushing this B.S.
1. Don't look in the mirror for a few months
2. Keep your cortisol(stress) levels down consistently (its a game changer)
3. Be consistent with TMO
Thats what helped get out of my slump quicker than ever.
Hi HOPE,
I hope this finds you well. Would you mind pointing me in the direction of the pelvic floor dysfunction information you referenced on my thread? I.e subreddit, discord chats, etc? Specifics on exercises and therapies would be great! I’m really trying to rehab my unit and restore size that I think was lost due to PFD. I apologize in advance for posting here – I tried to DM, but something funky going on with your username. Thank you!
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Cold Turkey. Just body it. The first 4 days will be the worst. I don’t sleep. I’m delirious in bed at night. My short term memory and brain fog are awful. But after 4 days, sleep returns. Energy returns. Brain fog starts to dissipate after a week. It’s smooth sailing from then on out. The key is to not hit nic in any form until you know you’re ready to start up again. Not even once. I quit cold turkey a week ago. I feel great now. Best of luck to you – it’s always worth it.
My way of stopping is not telling yourself you are quitting but rather tell yourself you will not smoke for a while and see how long you can stretch it. Then you realize the urge becomes less. Then at some point you will light up again and just feel smoking for what it is. You get nauseous, it burns your lungs and smells terrible.
It’s not the nicotine itself I think will harm you, but the chemicals and all sorts of other shit loaded in cigarettes. Vape pens are just as bad. You’re simply gonna hold yourself back by smoking, ask yourself if you’d rather smoke or stay in the spot you’re in, then make a decision off of that. Just pick it back up when you recover.
I really do get where you’re coming from, I drank a lot during this process and slipped up a lot, but I did the protocol for like a solid year before I took in any toxins. At least give yourself that. Staying sober/straight edge sucks, but that’s what being a man is my guy. Doing a lot of shit you don’t want to do, because you have to
Excess DHT can lower serotonin which in the case of PSSD would be an issue for you I’d assume. But it’s a neurosteroid so I’d imagine it would help in that sense as well. I’ve always somewhat pondered the possibility that I may have pssd since I fucked around with SSRI’s and fin in the same time of my life, there’s no way to know, and I dont want to be a hypochondriac. But fin was the major breaking point where I crashed. But cycles make me an emotionless zombie for a month or 2 after I come off. It happened with Alchemy also who was pssd. But they also switch “on” my emotions during cycle.
That's interesting. I played around with 5-HTP and St Johns Wort which are similar to SSRIs about nine months before getting severe PFS. They crushed my libido. Also took minox for a month before taking fin and got sides from that as well. So adding fin was the worst thing I could've done but oh well you live and learn.
I was kinda similar. My gf was a hair stylist and recommended minox to me, probably took it for about a year. In that year I developed an anxiety disorder out of nowhere, became a hermit, started drinking, and tried to medicate with SSRI’s numerous times, then took fin, was a zombie for about about another year, then tried fin again, that’s when it all explored on me. Had no idea what was going on during that time frame and never heard of pfs, but in hindsight today it all makes sense. My libido was also nuked before my big crash. This has been a long ordeal for me
@Maxout777 Yo Max, Hope was asking if prohormones such as Ultrahard would be beneficial for those with PSSD. What do you think?
On a water fast all you should do is rest nothing else. On my first ever water fast I fainted because I stood up too quickly.
Hard to say, really. I don’t think they’ll hurt. As far as I know, PSSD is more serotonin system focused than PFS, again from what limited things I’ve read. If I was PSSD, I would almost look into things that are brain, and dopamine heavy, like cerebrolysin, 9-me-BC, BPC-157, etc.
I think the neurological benefits of androsterone will help for PSSD though. I’ve just never really personally helped/worked with a PSSD-case.
That’s not what he’s saying, the protocol is a holistic healing approach to reset your system. Designed for many things under the sun. Many people on pssd forums follow a close outline of this protocol anyways, focusing on hormones as well as neurotransmitters. Same herbs etc.
How about post accutane syndrome. A guy on the whatsapp group said people with pfs have upregulated AR and people with PAS have downregulated AR.
I've already ordered my UH anyways. But now im realising it might not work the same since I have post accutane syndrome.
Literally not what I said at all. I said I'm not sure of the prohormones affect on the mechanism of action related to PSSD. Even went as far as to offer some potential alternatives if the protocol didn't work. I would continue on doing what you're doing.
What is BPC-157? - The Powerful Healing Peptide
Can be taken orally (source above), sublingually (science.bio) or injected science.bio). It's great for recovery from injuries if injected into the localized site of injury, and orally/sublingually it's fantastic for gut health and even more fantastic for fixing/modulating the dopamine/serotonin system and neurosteroid system. Been the best treatment I've ever tried for PTSD, hands down.
Again, it's hard for me to say. It makes sense that it would work. I also have never assisted anyone to recovery with post accutane (not because it doesn't work, more so we just haven't had any on this board). With anything in life, you've got to give it a try to see either way.
@HOPE
Go on the fast for as long as recommended. I think TMO will help you. Its bound to improve anyone mentally and physically.
Again, no one said that. A specific question was asked referencing ONE PART of the entire protocol as it related to PSSD and I said I don’t know, as I didn’t have it, and didn’t have any specific experience helping people with it. Don’t turn my words into something else that hurts your mental state.
Edit: You honestly need to be more worried about improving willpower and not vaping during cleanses, etc. than polluting your mind with pointless thoughts like these.
The protocol is a body rebalancing lifestyle practice. You can never be penalized (biologically) for doing the right thing (following natural law) If you have any chance of recovering from ANYTHING that is ailing you, THIS protocol will do it. That's just biology.
You need to get ahold of your mental status so that you can direct yourself properly. Again, the protocol is there for that.
STOP over thinking and just start DOING. DO, for six months and then check in, re-adjust if necessary.
What should you do if the protocol doesn't work? You're putting the cart before the horse. Stop thinking of the future and be in the present. That's where everything happens. Not yesterday, not tomorrow..........NOW. It is always, now.
Put in the work exactly as laid out, and I guarantee you'll notice a difference in six months. Then go from there.
EXACTLY as laid out. I can't stress this enough.
Dude....I'm not disappointed at all. You're not my kid.
I can only show you the way. You have to walk the path. We all have our own decisions to make regardless of anything else. You get what you put in. This is YOUR journey.
Mine's done. Thankfully.
You know what you need to do.
Remember: "You drown not by falling into the river, but by staying submerged in it." Paulo Coelo
Aside from not having any blue print to follow, I also got fucked up more then I should have during my healing journey which is why it took as long as it did. That's why I'm so adamant about staying sober during the healing process because it does nothing but set you back. Believe me, I know more then I should.
You probably lived my exact experience honestly, the reasons you sabotage yourself during healing and just wanting to let loose once in a while. It really wasn’t until I started feeling better that I really started letting loose and drinking more and more often. Took a while to finally realize it wasn’t worth it and that I’d rather just do another 6 months to a year sober to finally recover 100%.
You know how it is. People have to learn for themselves
This is normal when fasting. This is why at the clinic, they go through a whole check list of things you need to do to keep yourself from getting hurt. Standing up in stages is one of them. If laying down, sit up and turn your legs off the end of the bed. Wait 20 seconds......THEN, stand....wait 20 seconds.....then walk.
Life changing condition with no cure?
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The protocol doesn't not work. People typically don't work the protocol. Don't get it twisted. You're young. You could be done by the time your 22......still a fucking baby wet behind the ears. You could come out unscathed and live a normal life.
Unfortunately, that is the case.....even with myself. Always have to learn the hard way.....always. Human nature I guess.
And yeah, when you start to feel better, you think you can make yourself feel even better by getting a little tweaked.....Ironic...only when you feel better will you do things to make you feel worse......
I'm not well versed in PSSD and the intricacies it entails. PFS, different story.
I know you PSSD guys have alot of overlapping symptoms, so it would only benefit you to run a DHT based prohormone. I would go with either ultrahard or R andro topical. PM me for details.
Yes, perfectly safe, when done correctly, like ANYTHING else. And yes, shriveled, narrow, hour glass shaped penis, hard flaccid......this our wheel house unfortunately. The pump will only benefit you. It gets a bad rap because guys fuck up the instructions and then blame the pump rather then just admitting it was operator error.
Excellent news man! Glad you updated this thread. So you feel mentally back to normal on upswings?