Appreciate man , I speak for everyone that you are an inspiration. And I knocked out that cleanse late January which was my 2nd cleanse, first water one though. It helped much better than juice one even though I only managed 6 days with water.
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Pushing off cycle for another week. Experienced what I think was food poisoning which made me crap water and feel dead for a day (yesterday). Seems to be better as I was able to train normally this morning and feel better emotionally. Will make sure I get hydrated and keep the ball rolling with herb cycle until I jump on cycle
Well, it’s been a crazy week. After making great improvements during my short span on protocol, my diarrhea bout which I’m thinking is either food poisoning or stomach bug has really made me have a downturn in the sexual department.
On the first day of this episode, I had crazy cramps in abdominal area which lead to part of my penis going numb and not feeling as big, and losing libido in process. It still has not returned but I’m still shitting after eating cleanest foods. The crap has remained green and watery and seem to be loosing weight because of it. Decided to take over the counter diarrheal medication to slow the madness down but only used a few due to not wanting to be reliant on it.
Ultimately decided to hop on a quick 3 day cleanse to heal gut and regain a little of sexual stuff that I lost in process. Is this the course of action recommended by the group? Still at a loss that a “stomach bug” could make me lose progress like this. Wtf.
Yeah great call. Ended up cleansing for an additional 4 days and the diarrhea has subsided . Swear to god I haven’t shat that much in my life. Back to regular diet and training and even feel a little better than before food poisoning. Will take herbs a few more weeks before cycle . Cheers!
Just an update, going through a downswing. Mainly sunken libido and penis, where the penis doesn’t feel full and get that bulge in the jeans like I usually do. Downswing seemed to happen after I got these cramps after my diarrhea Issue . No brain fog or head pressure but have slight ringing in right ear/head it feels like. I tried matching it to the Various tinnitus samples but it doesnt match the intensity or sound even on the lowest volume - it’s just there in my head it feels like when I’m in a quiet environment. Seemed to get it back in December butnow it seems noticeable since the head pressure and fog have went away.
I feel like hopping on a 3 day cleanse to right the ship then take 2 weeks to herb cycle and then give UH a run.
I feel like you guys are expecting too much too soon.
I'm not sure what happened to this place, but it's in the shit.
You guys have to NOT focus on your problems, but the opposite.
Not singling you out at all, just a general statement after going through many of these threads.
Talk about having to right a ship........that's what we have here....
Hey guys, hope everyone is good.
Recently going through a downswing in terms of head pressure and anxiety. not sure if it’s because of a possible concussion but I haven’t been showing the classic concussion symptoms that usually occur and otherwise have been fine.
Since starting the Protocol in Dec 2021 I’ve been always eager to learn about the prohormone aspect of recovery but honestly have been a little timid and scared to do it. Now I have built up the courage and will be starting My First cycle tomorrow with the ultra hard starting low dose, may not push it past 3-4 pumps for a month.
I’ve gotten the jist through past threads regarding eating carbs during the day and keeping up with Potassium intake, but if there are any other tips and reminders that I would need to be aware of, please share them.
I’ll keep the community updated throughout the journey - wish me luck boys!
I look forward to your future updates on cycle
Same here on the cycle.
Currently on Day 4 of cycle and wanted to report some early experiences so far.
- this stuff is no joke! wasn’t expecting this stuff to work quickly for me but I’ve been doing 1 -2 pumps per day and noticed improvements hours later after 1st application. Mostly, seemed to regain skin splitting pumps in the gym when lifting that I’ve logged in past threads that I was missing and have felt very calm. (Really happy about this)
-sleep has been better. I have felt more”tired” at night and less anxious which wasn’t previously a huge nuisance since meditation/breathing helped but now I’m ready to pass out when the time comes
-libido is flickering. Had a raging boner while thinking about this chick at work without any stimulation.
Obviously this isn’t a silver bullet but happy to regain lost dht that was previously decimated
Still running 2 pumps daily of UH, will progress to 3 and then4 in the coming days. Feeling good in terms of energy , my workouts have been Bonkers just like the good ole days.
. My sleep has been fantastic except last night where I got an Electric shock changing a lightbulb switch and my finger was caught in the socket, dumbass move I know but it caused crazy thoughts /anxiety of me going to “die” when it was just a quick pain and got barley any sleep (have had anxiety my entire life so par for the course maybe).
Getting a Lot more earwax and sweat, close to the pre fin days. For some reason my appetite has done up even though I was eating tons pre cycle
How bad was sleep and how much did it improve? Im on about two hours unaided.
I started having problems again in February and had a very bad crash last few weeks, lots of facial fat loss and total ED last few days. For year my PFS was livable.
What juicer did you use for the feast?
1, initially crashing I would go days without sleep. Now I can go 6-8 hours no issue with waking up once or twice but that was same pre pfs. It fluctuates as my general anxiety may alter it and have a bad night or too, but then would usually calm down
2, I just used this big ass blender when initially starting protocol, not a juicer. Don’t have it anymore as it broke. Following that I did various water cleanses and can tell you I loved those much more than juice
Of course it's not. Glad you finally decided to listen to the advice. It's only going to further your cause. Add in Concrete To really take it to the next level. You'll thank me later.
Do you have any 4 andro on hand for incidental estrogen crushes? You may not need it, but it's good to have just in case.
Some positives and negatives to report on cycle.
Positives : - less head pressure in general
-more energy
-better workouts
-skin and hair looking lively
-more sweat/ear wax production
Negatives:
-SLEEP. Not sure if it’s the Epi in the UH or what but these last couple days I’ve been getting 2-4 hours of sleep even with Magnesium/Glycine. Maybe have to pop a Melatonin or something. Will be cutting out coffee perhaps until cycle ends or should I be looking to switch to a R andro from IML?
-altered bowel movements. It seems less firm and more clunky .
-maybe more anxiety
-slight skin rash on chest, have switched to applying on delts, ribs, arms
Don't take melatonin because it lowers testosterone. Try doing your prohormone cycle earlier, and/or cutting out your daily coffee. You're on the right track, keep going and be brave!
Would it be suffice to run 2 pumps throughout entire cycle instead of 3? I’ve noticed that when I’m at 3plus pumps I can’t sleep at all but when I drop it to 2 or 2 1/2 , sleep is much easier and pleasant.
Sleep has gotten better even on 3-4 pumps. Workouts have stabilized but much better compared to off cycle. Slight head pressure exists along with anxiety, but breathing- meditation has helped greatly.
Libido is better. Along with no fap 2 weeks (my personal record) I’ve been so horny I just want to FUCK.
Biggest issue right now is seeing that back when I crashed, I must of lost bone or muscle on right side of face because my face doesn’t look symmetrical like it did. It’s more obvious now since I’m in best shape of my life and face has defined more . Gladly it’s reversible with time Based on past threads I.e Damn so I’m not sweating it.
So I’m in the 4th week of first UH cycle and might be overreacting but wanted input from the group.
So I decided to not drink coffee these last couple days to reset caffeine tolerance but needed a midday boost so I picked up one of those Arizona Herbal Tonic Teas. I know all of them are gluten free and high in sugar but after drinking half of it I realized that 2 of the ingredients were made of eleuthero and schisandra exact ( 2 of the herbs on rotation).
I was planning on coming off cycle a day or two early cause I can definitely feel Low E sides with dryness and aching joints but didn’t want to break out the alpha 4 for that short of period.
Do you guys think I should just hop back on the herbs rotation since I drank that tea or ?
The tea would have had minimal,if any effect.The advice on xxalesis recovery thread by others was to stick to the 6 week course I think because I think he came off his 1st uh cycle early or one of them and others said you should stick it out. I can't advise you personally but maybe look at his recovery thread?
OK well I really can't advise but have a look at his thread. Some good stuff there relevant to what you're asking. We'll done on your progress BTW and please keep updating. It helps me like you wouldn't believe.
Been on PCT from UH cycle for about 2 weeks, nothing much to report as the heavy sweating and pumps and subsided since getting off -not surprised.
However my sleeps been messed up this last week, not sure if it’s the UH ingredients lingering in system affecting GAba. I’ve been having constipation and smelly gas so I decided to get on a probiotic (gut is the second brain). I’ve been on the probiotic for a few days and it really has cleared my head in terms of pressure/clarity but has made my dick a little less lively/ shrunk.
Is it feasible to incorporate a probiotic supplement everyday or is it something I should leave out of regimen ?
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..also, I’ve incorporated more herbs, one of them being the Shiljit Resin from Leh, and I love it. Such a great feeling from it
For probiotics I don't know, but in any case the sexual zone is very dependent on the digestive system. I had made great progress until a herb (Ziziphus I think) made me crash. (can't be anything else) I couldn't feed myself for 3-4 days, smelly farts, burping, no appetite, difficulty swallowing... Now it's better but I regressed compared to a few weeks ago.
I think if you fart often, and it smells bad, it's a sign that you can't stand something.
Dam said he took probiotics and I think Chi in recovery logs took them too. I take a probiotic daily. Noticed nothing.
Going through a downswing but not anything sexual/cognitive , more of just anxiety. Been swamped with work these last couple weeks and haven’t been able to cook my meals, so when not meal prepping I’ve settled for supermarket rotisserie chickens (processed) and other frozen meat. Feeling guilty as I’m pretty much 100 percent doing everything I’m supposed to (recently broke my no fap streak, ugh).
I’ll be fine though , keep trucking along
Last few days have been REALLY good, feeling like 85 percent pfs baseline. Head is clear, cock is full, and sleep even decent without glycine. Libido is still lower, have this weird vision issue in left eye ( same one I have pfs floaters ) but it’s cause I had a piece of banana or something that flung up in there and think i may have an abrasion or something , idk.
Can’t really point my finger but I started eating strictly clean these last couple weeks meaning no ice cream or non gluten sweets for backloads - just craps tons of rice and potato basically Also on another 1 1/2 week no nut streak, pushing for a month or 2.
Great job man
Appreciate it, all good things must come to an end I suppose . Must be on a downswing as I only got a couple hours of sleep tossing and turning before that, head is a bit congested not as much as before.
Looking forward to starting second cycle In a couple weeks
Well there is great news and bad news !
Great news: I feel pretty good each day, sleep is solid and even on days where it’s iffy I still feel rejuvenated. Morning wood is pre pfs almost, full force. Brain Fog is pretty much gone, but libido is still not quite there. I’m in the best shape of my life and max lifts have increased more than ever. Also decided to shave my head and be bald like Mr Cd , but my beard is thick and I actually look better this way.
Bad news: I think I have a hernia in my groin/ waist area. Doesn’t hurt and stuff when walking or lifting but some lifts I feel a discomfort. This has subsided over last couple weeks but still present - going to the doc to get it checked out . And I can feel a small bump. Therefore will be putting off my second cycle. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a hernia cause I have been lifting like an asshole
Tip: focus on form and do not always ego lift.
Life is good otherwise
Been going through what I think is a mild mild cold for past week but interesting since I haven’t been sick since pre PFS. Side of throat is very irritating with mucus , hoarse voice , lethargy etc.
Ramping up intensity with workouts, don’t think my hip issue was a hernia as pain is 99 percent gone. Probably will see a doctor though h