Some guys are so spoiled and put no effort, to the point they want someone else to pump it for them LOL 😂
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I'm not here to start a row, just here to share awareness for future people, so they dont fall in the current whole I'm in, like I said some people compare this to PFS itself.
You can read this mans story -
"Go over to the propeciahelp forum and take a read. The symptoms are incredibly similar. One of the sides of propecia is depriving the penis of androgens which damages the structure of the dorsal nerve. That would explain why they don't regain their libido after they restore their hormone levels. Only different is I did it mechanically. "
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Mike, Please don't take this as dog piling...I am truly concerned about your well being. You really should take the advice that I and others have given to you ad nauseam...Quit obsessing about PFS and your dick and just get on with your life. Honestly, nothing you have posted so far makes me think you have PFS. It seems to me the symptoms you are experiencing seem to be all mentally & physically self induced. Give your dick its space...the body is an amazing thing and can do wonders to heal itself, but only if your mind lets it. I would strongly recommend you find a therapist who specializes in OCD, bud. Best of luck, seriously.
By damage, I'm experiencing pain by the base of my penis, and no longer get 10/10 morning erections. The industry term when using penis enlargement products is 'injury' rather then damage. I used the bathmate, Sunday Night three weeks ago, Monday afternoon, I experienced pain which was pretty bad. Today three weeks later, I still do have pain, but it is manageable. Like always the emotional part of this is the worst, not seeing those perfect erections is hard to swallow.
No, there is no warning sign, since there is no pressure gauge. Ideally most people know their balance of what is to much, either by counting the number of pumps, or the feeling. I have actually asked other professionals over at PEGYM who have overwhelming industry knowledge about the bathmate product and its safety concerns over the pressure gauge, and they absolutely agree, and said they wouldn't touch it due to this issue.
A safe pressure amount according to the FDA is approximately 200-250 mmHg. The Bathmate goes far beyond that number, especially the higher end models.
Like all the professionals say, its not about how hard you stretch or pressurise your penis, its about consistency.
i haven't had any problems so far.. i wish u a speedy recovery and thanks for the warning :)
this guy Chris GLL is how I first found out about bathmate
Can Bathmate Cause Erectile Dysfunction? - YouTube
he also advocates ru58841 which i crashed from though so take with a grain of salt. some of his advice is very good though.
Correct, most people will tell you that its safe to use, and that it will actually be healthy for you, but as I mentioned perviously this is a controversial topic.
If you actually check for feedback of peoples injuries from this product, you will find unlimited amounts of stories. Its like tallstraw said earlier on this thread "If you do any actual research, or think for a half a second, anyone would assume there’s inherent assumed risk".
Again....it is safe to use when used correctly.
Anyone can tell when they're over doing it, regardless of what the guage says. You dont go by the guage, you go by feel. You go by what naturally feels safe.
You over did it, and now you're paying for it. That's the bottom line. You did it to yourself. There is no one to blame but yourself.
That's enough of this. It's beating a dead horse. (No pun intended)
This isn't going to be the only time in life when you have to take responsibility for you actions. You may as well start now.
Out of the hundreds and hundreds of guys I've helped with this, you're the only one that is whining about it and going on and on. Again, no one to blame but the guy who was doing the pumping, and god knows it wasn't me.
I've had one of these for ages and my opinion is that yes, even a bath mate can be dangerous if used improperly or recklessly. They're also pretty great if used with caution and understanding.
I'm only here to say fuck the fda, these are the same money grubbing cunts who approved finasteride/duta/accutane(and those are just the ones that cause pfs or similar conditions).
I'm gunna dial down usage to like once or twice a week at 15 minutes I feel like 20x3 is a bit too close to the edge for me and it was getting sore for too many days.
I've had amazing results from this thing. Not even a month and I've easily gained half an inch in length and girth, plus crazy intense erections (every few days). But ya it gets a bit raw for awhile after, might just do 15 minutes per session
Honestly could be psychosomatic man. You’d be surprised. Especially with the negative ass connotation I read from most PFS guys here. Rarely do their tones sounds optimistic, or in control. They always have a “feel sorry for me” connotation. I’ve been there. My dick broke, I thought I was going to have to use surgery, to fix it, meaning losing an inch or two off my penis. I know the anguish of a not working dick, and mine was paired with thinking I was going to lose size.
So maybe it’s in your head.
Actually after reading back, I see you have that stretching pain, which I had from rupturing the chambers. But I had a 6ft1in woman on top of my bouncing lol. How much fucking pressure were you using, damn dude. Sounds like you went overboard. Especially after he first injury, and I can tell you this. If you felt a stretching sensation in your penis, you ruptured it, and 6 months was certainly not enough to fix it. You reopened it. This thing takes forever to heal, seriously. I’m going on over a year before it’s finally back to normal.. mostly.. I now have a curve, but erection strength is good, and not curved.
Don’t touch the bathmate for a year man. You ripped it. Stop fucking with it. And stop using absurd pressure. I almost feel like, without going back to read, you may have a bath mate too big for you? Which would only exacerbate how much pressure you can apply.
Idk, I don’t feel like reading through 9 pages. I’ll get your response to fill me in completely.
You shouldn’t be sore at all. That’s the kind of damage you don’t want to your tubes, I promise. Because they don’t heal in a week, microtears take a month or more to heal, whether you realize it or not. You’re compounding it. I don’t care what anyone else here says contrary to my opinion.
I didn’t realize JUST how long the tissue in the penis takes to heal, until the doctor started explaining it to me.
Sounds accurate.
Regarding my recovery from my injury, I think I'm making progress, but its really slow. I'm due to water fast June 5th, will the water fast speed up the recovery?
I used the bathmate for 90 seconds at a decent pressure amount, but not MAX pressure, I have used Max pressure before for a long time, and nothing happened, nor did it feel painful.
I’m not a doctor, can’t answer that kind of stuff, nor am I familiar with PFS that much. That’s stuff CD and others might have more answers to. But I’d imagine not, I told the doc I was on gear and asked if it would decrease healing time or create unwanted scar tissue(I noticed with other injuries, my body made scar tissue in absurd volumes when I was on gear and would injure myself, vs non enhanced). He and she said no, so I’m leaning towards no, but I’m not a doctor.. idk what these diets will do for you.
But first and foremost, I’d stop pumping for 6 months at a minimum, and preferably for a year. Your dick is one of the slowest repairing sets of tissues we have, apparently.
A water fast of any decent length (14-21 or more days) is going to put your body into cleanse and heal mode faster then had you not water fasted. That's one of the reasons it can be used for so many health issues. People don't realize how much energy digestion uses up until they stop eating.
These doctors sound like idiots honestly. I mean, any guy on gear, whether they be spouting broscience or not will tell you that you heal hella fast on the juice then compared to when not juicing. It's know in those circles. To me it makes complete sense that you would heal quicker. Your protein synthesis is through the roof while running a cycle.
This has been my experience as well. I wasn't even using it for size but size I got. I'm not complaining. That, and unbelievable erection quality. The thing I like most about it is the immediate results after a session. My girl would always be able to tell if I had pumped at some point that day when we were having sex.
I think what happens with some guys is they think that more is better. While that can be argued, what you have to keep in mind is that you're still going to get benefits while maintaining ANY KIND of pressure that is over the pressure of a natural erection. You shouldn't feel pain, or be uncomfortable. Pumping should be a mildly pleasurable experience.
You shouldn't be trying to break any kind of records here. Pump it until you are completely engorged and then RELAX. Wait five or so minutes, then release. Grab it by the base with your two fingers and smack it up and down with a nice smooth swing, up against your belly near your belly button and then down between your legs in one fluid motion. Do this swing for ten or so seconds. Then gear up for another five minutes in the tube.
If you can increase the pressure from the previous five minutes, then do so. If not, then don't. Guaranteed those guys that are hurting themselves are simply doing too much, too soon.
You'll notice that with each five minute set, you're able to increase the pressure just a little more. This is because you have GENTLY stretched it with the first session and every session there after.
SLOW DOWN guys. Like everything else with this, this is a marathon, not a sprint.
I agree with what you’re saying, but from what the urologists were saying, your dick in and of itself takes forever to recover from any injury. I think we’d be squabbling over semantics to argue how much. Since my I jury, which was bad, took over a year to heal. That even if he was on gear. 6 months in my opinion is too short to essentially be picking at a scab, with the pump,to soemthing so important to our mental health and confidence.
Especially when further damage could result in him needing surgery like I may have have required. Which normally means a loss of an inch or two.
From the description of your injury, you had fractured your penis, I have actually researched that before, those do indeed take a very long time to heal. Those injuries are considered far more serious then your average Penis enlargement (PE) injury. I can ideally maintain an erection now, but thats not advisable, given it would be like picking at a scab. Penis injuries are very common in the PE world, though they are not supposed to happen. As mentioned perviously as well, tons of people get bathmate injuries for all sorts of reasons. When the average person doing PE gets injured, they allow it to heal, and carry on with exercises. Few people doing PE never got injured once.
I guess the injury you guys are talking about is much different than peyronie's. Most pfs victims (including myself) are dealing with peyronie's which pumps are actually recommended for because they help break down scar tissue. I haven't seen a urologist though and don't know if they would recommend using it as often as most people on this site are.
I think I'm fine cuz I layed off for like 3 days and it wasn't sore and I pumped last night and I'm not sore at all and was able to have sex once last night and I masturbated after too (I masturbate like once a week or every other week as a treat depending how horny I am).
You got it bro. As much as you use your dick, which, I can honestly say, out of all the dudes I've worked with, you have the most sex, lol, you would know if you fucked yourself up.
Using the bathmate three times weekly, at a responsible pace such is what is recommended, you'll be fine.
I guarantee you could probably write a book, or a course on pick up.....or at least keep a blog going. I know there is alot out there, but there is always room for something new.
Anything you've thought about? You do get laid alot, PFS aside. I can't even imagine what you'd be slaying if you had a ridiculously high baseline. Hell....I'm single now. I'd follow your blog.....for anything simply for pure amusement.....lol.
We could go into business together. I'll get guys sorted out health wise, then you teach them how to pick up women and use their now functioning dick.
I'd consider this part of being an optimized male. Being able to be confident with themselves in regards to picking up women, anywhere, anytime....."The Adventures of Jacknap." is going to be a new section of the new TMO site....
I feel that the worst part of PFS was reading all the scary web pages/blogs that keep reiterating 'irreversible', 'permanent', 'for life' side effects. Almost all of us part of swolesource first hit, and read through ph.com for weeks to months before coming here. One of the biggest reasons for this is that the words I'm currently writing dont show up in google, as apposed to other blogs they do, the keywords show up in googles search term. This has to be changed. If we change this, there are lives that literarily can be saved, (people commit suicide) as the biggest thing you need here is 'hope'. PH.com was designed for pre-finasteride, not post, I believe thats why we are seeing the most negative comments ever there, and they remove users who claim to be recovered, since their goal is to prevent users from taking it, and it does a great job at that.
I have seen a top PFS doctor before coming to this site, and he has written a research study on this, and even he says 50% of PFS patients are simply just to depressed, once given anti- depressants they come out of it. alan jacobs md's blog
This is the only non-negative blog there is on PFS out there in the whole world. - Thats a powerful statement.
If I would have found this site before PH, I could have suffered a lot less.
I'm wondering if what I have is from the pump, as there is no real evidence that the pump has what to do with my pain. My pain has been getting better, but very slowly, and my pain is sometimes in my pelvic floor between the anus, and the scrotum. I'm wondering if its maybe prostatitis or something along those lines, that was caused by Propecia itself.
If I had to chose, I rather it be an injury, as those are physical things, and generally recover with time, and rest.
This is all the more reason for people to heed the pumping advice given for this unit. The chances of injury are very small when done correctly. But like anything in life, there is risk.
And if he has an injured dick, I would say to lay off the pumping as well. But if it's something like pyeronies, this situation actually benefits from using the pump.
My point is, the benefits of the pump far out weight the negatives. Most people have no issues whatsoever. Guys simply need to slow down, and read.
I agree, an injury with 90 seconds, and no pain during, or after usage makes no sense.
On the same token there are three items that took place within the 24 hours that the pain started 1) Pumping 2) 4x masterbating 3) propecia usage which ended 4.5 months before.
Also, I never lost my libido since the pain started. My libido is really high now, and its hard to allow rest, but in the event its an injury I must allow rest. Also if its an injury it will show up in scans, or other medical scanning devices, if its PFS, its always undercover. I did have sex once after my injury, and I think it got worse since, but now getting better again, which makes me think it is indeed an injury.
I was just thinking out loud. Yeah, you're right...it does have a negative stigma attached to it. I can see why, but it really shouldn't. For some guys it makes the difference between being alone forever and finding a wife to make a life with. But, it most certainly can be abused.
First and foremost, you would have to enjoy writing about it, AND answering a ton....a ton of questions concerning it. If that's not your thing, then it won't really work.