Good lord DJ, what the fuck kind of porn do you watch?!
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Good lord DJ, what the fuck kind of porn do you watch?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHSeuDVvE8
remember?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
good times ^^
WOW! I don't think I ever saw that. Wishing I hadn't!
Lol. At the last 10 or so posts. Hilarious. Lol.
Everything is shaping up nicely, workouts are going well leading up to the first pinning... which would have been yesterday IF I had my bloods back.
Its been a week to date and I've still not heard back from Labcorp/PrivateMD. I've always been able to get my normal doctor to run a blood test on me for some other reason, but still check everything out, allowing insurance to pick up the tab. He couldn't do it this time because the insurance company is getting tighter on regulations for payouts for procedures. Funny because my monthly insurance rate just jumped $50 (myself and the wife).
Of course I make that post and then my results come in, lol.
Dunno if anyone cares about specific values or not, I can post them up. I don't want to upload my PDF because it has some info on it that I don't care to share with anyone.
The basics:
Test - 631 ng/dL, ref 348 - 1197
Estradiol - 30 pg/mL, ref 3-70
The only thing that came back high was RDW (red cell distribution width) with a 15.5 on a scale from 12.3-15.4.
Cholesterol was on the high side of standards, nothing bad though. Kinda expected that one.
"Hormone Panel with F&T Testosterone & SHBG"
Those test may take longer to process.
------IT BEGINS------
Pinned this morning. I did 300mg of Test E and 200mg of Deca. Pinning will be twice a week - Monday mornings and Thursday evenings.
I love the feeling of the PIP, kinda missed it.
Pre-wo has been changed to Jack3d micro/Beta-alanine/GPLC. Works really well, gives me the pumps I want and I get fired up every time.
Like I said earlier, Var wasn't continued. I have been feeling the effects of it, which are pretty nice, but not what I want for the goals of this cycle.
The 16 week trek begins, this should be fun.
About time!!! Lol
Good luck in this run.
Good luck.
in for this!
My Talos showed up yesterday. Started taking it already. Going to be adding in the Tren this Monday.
Damn it feels good to be on cycle again, I feel like a million bucks and my workouts are just killer. Being sore again is such an amazing feeling.
Should be a crazy run with all the compounds that'll be ran.
What's the diet and workouts look like??
Outside of the specific compounds being mixed, why do you say that?
Diet is just specific foods mixed together and sucked down every 2-3 hours. Basic lean proteins like tuna and chicken breasts, other whole proteins like quinoa and edamame. Lots of veggies with every other meal like spinach, broccoli, various beans.
I don't really have a specific 'plan' layed out, which is frowned upon. I know what foods and how much to eat, I just switch it up as to WHEN I eat them every day to just keep things different. I might feel like tuna in the evening one day, but then next have chicken instead.
The only consistent meal is breakfast. One cup of oats with 1 cup of berries and 6 egg whites (2 yolks). I also try to get more carbs in during my meal prior to a workout.
Workouts also aren't planned out. I don't do Legs on Monday, Chest on Tuesday, ect... I do a muscle group, followed by another the next time I hit the gym, followed by a different group the next session, and so on. I have a variable work schedule (as does the wife), so it's hard to stick to a solid day-by-day workout schedule. I do hit the gym 5-6 times a week, so I am getting some good time in. I do keep similar groups spaced out though. If I do squats one day, I won't be doing dead lifts the next. I'll put 1 or 2 sessions between them.
I know, it's all stupid and not 'normal' but it works for me, which is what I care about.
TALOS!!! I have a bottle coming soon too ;)
sounds kinda familiar actually. Good deal man, put in work!
i think the diet and workouts question wasnt so much your schedule, but more so the macro breakdown in the diet, you said you wanna be huge, how will you do this nutrition wise? your workouts look like what? specifics please, interested, considering this heavy cycle, what your approach is
im also interested how this will go with regards to the stack.....iv never wanted or needed to go that high with tren, curious what you get out of it results/sides wise......deca id never touch, recently had a friend who is in great shape at 200, ran only 300mg a week mainly for joints and aches, it worked great for that but puffed him up alot, a guy who is cut and an unreal metabolism.....you arent quite in the same shape which id assume might cause estrogen issues with the combo of bodyfat and its afinity for aromatisation, compounded by the tren and how it can be unpredictable in each user.......and the test.........you said you had a history of bp issues no? both those drugs suck for that too
i dont eat certain things at certain hours, nor do i do chest on a certain day, or even specific exercises for a given part either.....BUT i will follow certain rep schemes, poundages, rest periods, ect in a given period, and i try to hit certain amount of protein
***i can see you dropping that prewo inside 10days lol ;)
I don't want to sound like a dick head but if you are going to take the time and risk to inject controlled substances into your body the least you can do and have a well thought out diet and workout routine.
To each their own and we are all adults and can make out own decisions, personally, I would not be comfortable running a cycle of aas without the basics of weight training covered. Routine, diet and rest are the foundation. supplementation is just that, a means to supplement these things not circumvent them.
I wish you the best of luck.
I think I should be more specific about my "no plan" approach:
For example, some people like to do legs on Monday. They will warm up, do some mild weight in a machine, get some pumps going, then slam out some exercises in specific orders at specific weights. I don't do that exactly, down to the exact detail on a weekly basis.
I have a "leg day" routine set out, and when I hit the gym, I know I'll be doing legs and I know what exercises I'll be doing. I also know what weights I'll be using, within reason depending on a couple factors.
I don't exactly have which exercises I'll be doing in exactly which order. I may use a machine to warm up, and barbell squats to kill it. The next time, I may warm up doing normal barbell squats, but end up coming back to the rack to kill it with the same exercise.
I also might go really heavily for a few sessions for a specific muscle group (high weight, low rep), then the next time I hit the group, go with a low weight, high rep approach to mix it up.
My issue breaks down to the fact that my body (and mind) will come to a screeching halt when I get into a pattern. If I always did Legs on Monday, Chest/Back on Tuesday, rest Wednesday, Deads on Thursday, Arms on Friday, and Shoulders/Traps on Saturday, my body would hit a plateau within a month tops. I found this out really fast when I was getting into weight lifting more heavily some years back.
I NEED to constantly be random with my workouts to keep things moving along.
I say that because it applies to all things in my life. I pick out patterns in everything, everywhere. That's why I have my job, because I can troubleshoot almost anything and figure out why it is broken, based on patterns. Just last month I was relocated to a different facility while mine was closed down over the holiday. I was put on machines to help out with minor stuff because I had no training on them. After a couple days of working on them, I was solving major issues that the head mechanic couldn't solve.
Even when I was in college, my semesters started out great, but after having the same classes on the same days at the same time, it was hell to push through the last few weeks of the semester.
Now that I've lost everyone, I'll try to spend some time over the next few days and try to get some things typed up for some sort of a reference.
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The GPLC kicked my ass doing deadlifts today. Holy shit the pumps hurt like a bitch.
honestly, i don't have a set workout plan either. i literally wake up in the morning and feel my body and i'm like... "what is not aching right now, what can i lift today?" and then i formulate a plan and hit the gym based on that.
diet wise, i eat as much as i can when bulking and i only get meticulous when trying to cut. so i don't see why a plan is so necessary when if i were to use a plan i often wake up like ugh i dont want to hit that body part today or ugh i don't want to eat that right now. it just doesn't work for me either.
that being said, i have added 35 lbs on my test enth cycle and still a week left to go!
That's what I was asking to see??
What kind or weigh are you pushing/pulling around the gym!!
How many cals are you taking in and what's the P/F/C amounts in grams?
Only asking because I have a 16 week test dbol var cycle coming up sometime this year and I'm just trying to gather up as much current info as possible.
Plus we are around the same size and weight.
Also what did you have your cals at before the cycle started.
Ran 250 mg 2x/week for 80 days now. 3 or 4 shots left, started var yesterday at 20 mg, gonna ramp
Up to 40 in a few days until 2 weeks after my last shot then start pct. hoping to make it to a 40 lb gain then spend the last 2 weeks cutting. Muscle gains have slowed down but strength is still going up!
Training wise I understand what you mean. And life wise I can relate as well, I troubleshoot systems at work as well. I have specific lifts to work on, but I hardly ever do just that straight lift. Normally its some kind of variation. Squats with chains, then bands from the bottom, then some bands from the top, and different box heights to learn to control depth, etc. At any rate hope everything goes perfect and achieve your goals!
Ok, I needed some time to reply to this which I didn't have yesterday. I'm no expert with all these compounds, but fuck man, you're taking test, deca, and tren all at the same time. What I do know is that deca and tren will wreak havoc on your bp and lipids. Then on top of that, you're taking all this pre workout CRAP that you really don't need. All this pwo stuff will do to you is increase your blood pressure higher than it already is going to be with those 3 hardcore compounds. I seriously would never use deca or tren, but your using both, along with test... And pre work out stims for pumps... TO me something is wrong here. Ditch the bs pre workout stuff, and be safe. It will be hard to keep your bp is a safe range with all 3 of those compounds alone. Don't take this as bashing, but I just feel you're really asking for trouble here. When I cycle, I try my very best to be as safe as possible, as odd as that may sound. You're a pretty big guy already, what is your goal for this cycle? More mass?? Look at weekend, the dude is just on 500 mg of test, 50mg of proviron daily, and var the last 4 wks of his cycle, and he's put on 35#s already... To me thats a very safe way to cycle, not throw the 2 hardcore compounds on top of test and pre workout stuff and expect to come out healthy or safe.
good post ^^^, and having run tren, completely agree, doesnt play nice with any stim, and really its not needed, even if you are dead tired, on tren when you hit the gym, something goes off.......and i used less of the tren than cobalt, and being bigger at half the body fat......
on another forum , aas vet board, theres been 3 threads in the last 2 weeks about deca, 1 about its long term heart issues, and 2 on users not breathing well and having high bp at the gym cause of the deca.......no tren in either cycle
also at 20%+ bf, tends to increase bp even more......
i dont see the need for any pump product either seeing deca is great for those as is tren....whats doing what, like the post bout the gplc gave great pumps the other day, id venture to say it was the deca regardless if you just started.....var/dbol give me pumps within days
cobalt you said when you have time youd post up your loose plan on training and such, you should do that.........again jmo, but usually a user will define a goal, plan to achieve it, and then see what they need to get there, example i wanna grow i should increase cals, i wanna trim fat i should reduce cals from carbs and employ hiit........you seem to have grabbed a bunch a vials, picked a date to start your 'ride' as you call it, and whatever happens happens? correct me if im wrong
going back, your attitude with regards to your heart 'its a work in progress', even tho a date was circled then advanced, raised a flag, and since then this log has been curious to me............kind of a 'i want it all now' type cycle, and play it by ear
to weekend's credit, not the compounds, but that guy grilled me for months for advice, clarification on things, ect ect, and i know a few others, to the point id think, fk man lol, but the guy was as ready as he could be, had a plan, the compounds were chosen to work with his plan, and he executed.....he always prioritized safety i found as well
truth be told, i ran tren the first time, as prepared as i could be, and still was thrown some curves, mizzou from pp ran it, same way, was 'ready', and i think its the last cycle hes ever ran lol.........in your quest to be huge you are severely underestimating these compounds........350 tren alone would do a ton for you if your food was dialed in as the training, but there is alot of evidence of those areas lacking
please dont be the new ippy and prove everyone wrong
also i know you dont have a really concrete plan, however ill guess its to improve your build, thus some pics to watch this improvement would be cool.....maybe seeing your training is a go as you feel thing, from some front n back pics members can throw out ideas where to improve weak areas and you might 'feel' like doing that
Others have shared their thoughts, so I won't necessarily go into details you don't need from me. I would simplify the cycle, and I can't even remember the pre-WO stuff you were looking at, but I would probably drop it for the most part as well. You are higher bf, and said you had prior bp issues.
The tren will show you that you don't need a pump product, believe me. I had my girlfriend tell me the other day in the gym, that she will see guys staring at her as we are lifting (she comes with me sometimes), and then she realizes they are watching me lift, not her. You feel big and you LOOK it in the gym. Tren doesn't need a cocktail of other drugs to make it effective. Tren is effective. Period.
Fuck the way some of you guys describe tren makes me want to run some!!
Maybe one of these years but not anytime soon.
in reply to everything everyone just said grilling you.. one final point. i have read so many logs, cycle planning threads and what have you over the last few years. i don't recall EVER seeing anyone go through with running tren and deca at the same time.
deca seems milder than tren, but they both have some potentially hellish sides. since you want great results now, stick with tren, drop the deca. trying to handle both is ridiculous.
and i have had huge pumps off test alone, definitely drop pre-wo. stick to creatine and some other aminos for your prewo... sitmulants and tren cannot be good.
i feel that my look is not too crazy changed, but maybe after i cut a little water and fat. girlfriend says otherwise. if you compare me before i used any PHs.... pretty INSANE.
thing is in pictures it doesn't seem as crazy, but if you stood me next to myself 90 days ago the size difference is crazy, ive grown evenly across a lot of my muscles lol.
i literally have stuffed my face with as much food as possible. if i had to guess, i have been hitting 4000-5000 cal a day, with about 250-300 g protein, and then like 150 g fat, 300 g carbs... it varies. i definitely feel like the beginning of the cycle i focused on eating fat and now im shifting to more carbs. i think fats might work better for me, always feel swole day after eating a lb of bacon.
You also see yourself everyday so you don't really see it as much as someone else would.
If I was lean and packed on 40 everyone would Know it.
Fats work great for me to and always leave me feeling better than a big carb meal.
Enough talk about tren.... I want to know if our OP has learned to do a pull up yet. :D
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