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I know it sounds cliche' or corny, but they really are life changing. I stand behind those words with all of my being. The chemical compounds produced by the natural world are nothing short of amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
Bacopa and Gotu Kola along with lions mane synergise AMAZING when followed up with some caffeine. Either a cup of coffee or a nice strong cup of tea really bring them home. GREAT way to start the day.
Got stool and urine test results back. Looks like I have H. Pylori, Candida, and a parasite. Also, some normal flora seem a little out of balance. Going to see doctor soon. I should probably get this gut business in order before continuing with herbs and such.
No need. The herbs are only going to help, not hinder. If anything they are building up your constitution to better withstand anything negative you have going on. I wouldn't stop them.Quote:
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They have arrived. Not sure which one to start with. I think maybe Lion's Mane. That should bring the total to 10 herbs.
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You get the best results with lion's mane when you put it in hot water and make a tea out of it of sorts. Personally I put it into boiling hot water and then steep a tea bag in itQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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Took Lion's Mane last night. This morning feel like I was hit over the head with a bat. More heavy headedness and fogginess. I don't know if it is related to Lion's Mane at this point. Strange.
Try it in the morning in hot waterQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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Just took one teaspoon (3 grams ??) of Pine Pollen powder (a.k.a the master herb) tonight. Let's see the magic go to work. Pine pollen powder should be good for PCT right? Or should it wait until after?Attachment 1537
Just go for it and take one heaping tablespoonQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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Really? 1 tablespoon? I'm not a big guy but if I feel no worse in an hour I will take another teaspoon.
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Everyone on this board does the exact same thing for PCT as they do for the normal protocol. You don't have to hold off on anything or change anything. I personally make sure I have a pp tincture for PCT, but that's just personal preference.Quote:
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Like CD said, no reason to be shy, unless you're worried about money. I think most of us do like 3 tablespoons per day.
If anything you'll just feel better broQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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Just gave the pine pollen another dollop. Tomorrow morning I think I'll try either mucuna or black ant.
Black ant really packs an energetic punch and is usually best pre-workout... FYIQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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Ok. What is a good morning herb?
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You're going to have to feel them all out to see how they react with your Constitution. Most of them are great in the morning which is when you should take your first dose regardless. I was just letting you know that the ant packs a bit more of a punch than the othersQuote:
Originally Posted by bizzbee
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2 teaspoons of pine pollen did not seem to do much. Libido actually felt lower afterwards. I was expecting a libido boost and nocturnal erections. Didn't sense suppressive like effects. Woke up looking and feeling tight (also took Mucuna last night as well 1/4 teaspoon). Not going to cross it off yet. Next time will take a massive dose to see what this stuff can really do. Today is tongkat ali day. PCT not finished. Still need to recover libido and erection frequency after prohormone cycle.
LEH actually has a "morning wood guarantee" that if you take three TABLESPOONS before bed, you will wake up with a raging hard on the next day. Try it.Quote:
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Done! Doing the 3 tbsp experiment tonight.
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They used to have this write up on the pine pollen page. Not sure if it's there anymore as I haven't been to the site in quite awhile. I ordered my PP by the kilo, outside the website channels.Quote:
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I didn't see that guarantee posted on their page. Another reported symptom of the last night's pine pollen and mucuna intake is drier skin. Skin usually is somewhat oily. I wish I had the response some of you others have had with this stuff. I will wait until things normalize a bit and then try the 3 tablespoon experiment on a later night. I will just stick to the ones I know work for now for the PCT. I need to regain ground that was lost.
You don't really think that one dose of pine pollen dried out your skin do you?
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mind hooking up that source cd lol. I love this stuff and would love to take it the rest of my life. even after I recover. I personally love being a sex crazed maniac lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
I'm not sure. I'm just reporting any symptoms post intake. Nothing has changed in regimen besides the intake.
theoretically could be possible cause it does lower estrogen correct? I recall english saying he had skin issues when he lowered his e to much with arimedex... obviously more potent than a herb I'd imagine though
Could very well be the case. I am waiting for my tincture to come in. Let's see what sort of symptoms arise from that.
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Are you looking for symptoms?Quote:
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Of course I look for symptoms when I put something foreign into the body. Wouldn't you?
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I look for benefitsQuote:
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I highly doubt one dose of pine pollen at two teaspoons would cause your skin to dry out within like 10 hours. Seems like a coincidence/over-analysis.Quote:
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I mean, even back in the very early days of PFS when I was still drinking, it would be like five days before I noticed the negative effects. I'm always skeptical when someone claims to have a negative hormonal response within 24 hrs. I just don't think it works that way.
You certainly can have a negative hormonal response within 24 hours of taking a substance and sometimes even sooner depending on what was ingested. I just don't think two teaspoons of pine pollen would manifest anything that quickly. If we were talking about a designer steroid, MaybeQuote:
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I crashed from using an anti-androgen topically JUST ONCE. So I try not to totally be dismissive of people cause of this lol.Quote:
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Are you kidding? I have hormonal responses that arrive within hours of taking herbal t-boosters.
Took some tongkat ali today from Lost empire herbs. This stuff seems mellower than the LJ100 sold by source naturals. Used two scoops from the small scooper they provide which should amount to about 100mg. One thing that seems to have gained some permanent ground is the muscle hardness and density. Don't look as atrophied or flabby as before. Tomorrow will be cistanche day. Hopefully recover libido and erection strength soon.
Lost Empire PinePollen Tincture just arrived today. Took about 60 droplets before a workout. Workout was good. Strength and energy good. No longer feel the exhaustion after just 20 minutes. Went for a whole hour or more with little exhaustion. Looks like a new baseline really is here to stay. Also, feeling that tightness and lactic acid burn that was felt pre PFS. These look like good signs! Had vegetable pancakes (just a few eggs and veggies) and a sweet potato after the work out.
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nice biz! yours came with a scooper or is that extra? I didn't get one which is kinda annoying cuz it's hard to measure 100mg haha
Yes mine came with one. The LJ100 feels stronger than the Lost Empire, it also would lead to a headache afterwards if I took around two tablets (160mg). The pine pollen tincture doesn't seem to have made a dent. I think I'll finish it anyway in order to definitively know whether or not it helps. For each kind of herb that I have, I may buy from another brand in order to compare with Lost Empire. The LJ100 elicits a strong response for sure, and that at 80 mg. Perhaps my dosing needs some calibration using this scooper they provided with the packet. I used about two scoops. I think I'll up it to three to see what happens. But the workouts were killer. Really haven't had a workout like that since I was probably normal before PFS. There just wasn't the exhaustion and lack of feel for lactic acid burn. I could get more reps, more volume without the sudden exhaustion setting in.
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I hope the other herbs pack a bigger punch. The pine pollen and it's tincture have been underwhelming.
for me the one's I feel the most are butea superba, tribulus, ashwagandha, pine pollen powder, rhodiola
if you can afford it try upping the dose. I can get ashwagandha very cheap here so I sometimes dose 25 grams of it in a day and it produces a drug like effect. lol
What do you feel when you try the butea superba?
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