I've told a few people so far, but I am now able to offer AH TD by muscle gelz at a decent price for you guys on the forum. FYI
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Still going great. The mental benefits are amazing, I feel totally like my old self. Feels like it’s 2018, before I took fin. I thought I was mentally recovered before this, but turns out that wasn’t the case.
I did 600mg yesterday but dropped it back to 400mg today. Don’t wanna crush my estrogen
Goal is to go at least 8 weeks, extending to 12 weeks if i feel like it.
Yeah man, I have three bottles of it here so it should last for quite a while. My goal is to go for at least 8 weeks like I said above. My shorter cycles of 4 and 5 weeks that I've done before gave me fantastic results so I'm really excited for this one.
What's strange is that when I tried andro back in January for a couple weeks, I didn't feel anything. This time, I felt the effects in just a couple days.
Almost at the end of third week on Andro. Mood is great, libido great, muscles are hard and just overall feel amazing, for the most part.
Side effects so far have been some lethargy, and some anxiety at times. Nothing I can’t push through. The gf is visiting me for a few weeks too so the raging libido has definitely been a plus, lol.
Excited to see how this progresses :D
Feeling like a beast at the gym. Worked arms today and still had plenty of energy to go even after an intense hour long workout. Funny how the andro makes me lethargic and sleepy but still have amazing energy at the gym lol.
Just got back from sprinting with the gf. It was sunny so I took my shirt off and ran in the sun without it, double benefits lol. Feel great, the andro is definitely doing its job.
On another note, anyone know if it’s possible to drink too much Kombucha? Might be a stupid question but it has traces of alcohol in it and I’ve been drinking it everyday for a week now. Love the taste and it’s a probiotic too. But of course us PFS guys need to avoid alcohol so I’m wondering if I could be causing myself some harm there. Could also be me overthinking. If I remember correctly, English recommended Kombucha to Maxout and he drank it a few times a week throughout his recovery. I’m a bit addicted to the stuff already, lol.
Bucha is definitely ok. Just don't drink 6 packs of the 3% alc kind and your fine.
I'm really looking forward to starting my first round of AH transdermal this week. Have not been here on the forum since AH was the recommended pro-hormone used, so im curious the ways its been discussed to maximize results.
Have you seen any skin health benefits in the areas you've been applying it?
I've read and seen anecdotal evidence that the skin takes a healthy and more youthful appearance...so considering putting it straight on the face lol
Also considering rubbing it on the neck, and targeting the blood that's directly flowing to the brain to theoretically increase steroidogenesis there.
Thanks, yeah the one I drink has less than 0.5% alcohol.
Definitely let the forum know how you like the AH. I’ve enjoyed it on all of my runs so far. This is my third proper cycle, not counting a three week one I did in January but didn’t respond to for whatever reason. Regarding the skin benefits, I haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary tbh. It does make my face more oily though, as one would expect from a DHT prohormone. I’ve been applying the gel to my triceps and chest.
Four weeks on Andro Hard complete. The daily sun exposure has definitely been helping the benefits I've been getting from this run.
4-8 weeks left, depending on how long I feel like going!
Might be getting some low estro sides. Achy joints, low libido and a bit more anxiety. Not a big deal though, so hopefully I can keep this cycle going for the 8-12 weeks I planned. Still doing 4 pumps in the AM and again in the PM.
Other than that, I feel great - I actually sweat a lot after workouts now, forgot how that was like. Oily skin is back and muscles are rock hard. Can’t beat it.
Hey, thinking of trying Androhard cycle. I tried R Andro after doing all the necessary steps, but it didn't agree with me - I think because of IBD. So, I'm hoping to have better luck with transdermal approach i.e. bypassing the GI tract.
I've come a LONG way on the protocol. Most days I feel somewhere between 85-90%. I've had a couple upswings where I felt 100%, but it didn't last too long. I REALLY want to get that last 10-15%, and I believe prohormones is the way - after all, it just makes sense.
Anyway, I don't see it anywhere on here, so I assume there's no need, but I'm curious if cycle support is necessary? I assume the herb rotation will act as PCT... Thanks in advance.
I’m on the same boat I think...or at least something near. I’m on my 3rd week of 1st cycle and im experiencing some estro sides also. Libido got lower and having some anxiety (is this what women experience on their periods? 😂). Although sleep, digestion, sweating, muscle, skin is still good. Let’s keep sailing this fluctuations!!!
Have to talk...addicted to the breathing exercises!
Thanks for the reply!
Yeah, it's been a long road, and I still have downswings where I feel like 70%. The good news is they are becoming fewer, and they don't last nearly as long. Overall, life is pretty dang good! I'm hoping the AH cycles will put me over the last hurdle. Time will tell. If I notice big improvements I'll be sure to let y'all know.
Tomorrow will be five weeks. I'm still feeling some of the benefits like harder muscles, oily skin, sweating more etc. but also feeling side effects that I assume are due to low estrogen and/or epiandro. Anxiety, lethargy, joints hurt, lower libido and just generally feel quite exhausted, especially when exercising. I felt great for the first three weeks, but since then the benefits have faded a bit. I'm on vacation and I'm pretty much just laying on the couch all day besides exercise and sun exposure lol. The fatigue is crazy, can't imagine having to work while feeling like this.
Not gonna lie I probably won't be running this for the 8-12 weeks like I planned to, these symptoms just aren't worth it. Current goal is to run this for one more week which makes it six weeks.
You prob will think that I should write on my own thread...hahaha
But I want to reinforce that I’m experiencing the same symptoms. I think for me it’s being quicker since it’s my first cycle. But I can really notice some ups and downs about mental sides, not brainfog but mood in general. I will run 10 days more and give it a break.
I don’t wanna overthink about this, hoping things are happening behind the scenes as you said! This process teach us how to deal with stress without loosing our minds, it’s a huge growing for all of us.
Libido back up today. Jerked off twice and I'm having a difficult time resisting doing it for the third time LOL. Not gonna do it though. I've been doing nofap for several months but it's been hard (no pun intended) to abstain on this cycle
The fatigue and anxiety suck but gonna soldier on until Sunday :)
Dropped the cycle today. I've got an important meeting in a couple days and don't want to be fatigued like hell. Cycle was five weeks and four days in total... That should be enough as CD recommends cycling the transdermal AndroHard for 4-6 weeks in the sticky.
Positives:
- Felt completely like my old self for the first three weeks or so, then it faded a bit
- Had days and weeks where I had a raging libido, and actually lusted after girls HARD. Haven't felt that since before PFS
- Strength up, oily skin, amazing pumps, alpha male feeling... the usual stuff I've come to expect from DHT cycles
Negatives:
- Anxiety at times
- Fatigue/exhaustion after three weeks or so
- Lethargy, to the point where I felt like I was going to fall asleep when walking the streets
- Possibly felt some low E sides towards the end
- Feel like the andro made me a bit of a prick at times lol
Hopefully I get a good baseline improvement from this :)
Got sick, sigh... hopefully this won’t last long. Considering fasting for a couple days.
Considering running Androvar for my next cycle... 100mg Epiandrosterone per capsule. One bottle is supposed to last for the whole six weeks apparently when taking 3-4 capsules per day.
Bizzbee used this for his last cycle before he recovered, so I'm hoping it benefits me too. I felt nearly recovered for the first three weeks or so on my last cycle but it faded. Excited to see how this works for me but the Epi in the transdermal AndroHard already makes me fatigued so I hope this product won't make me feel like shit for the full six weeks.
How are your mental symptoms now? I just started my andro cycle a week and a half ago. Doing 10 pumps in the morning and 10 at night stacked with the 4 andro. Similar to what Ricky did. So far I haven't felt anything bad or good. Like I might as well not be doing anything lol. Other than I think I am looking more jacked than usual. But mental symptoms are still ups and downs like usual.
I’m doing well mentally. Don’t wanna say recovered because I thought I was, but after what I felt on my cycle, I realized I’m really not. Literally felt 100% like my old self for the first three weeks on the stuff.
That stack sounds nice. Tbh I I think MuscleGelz changed the serving size of Androhard of something.... I tried one of the newer bottles for three weeks back in January and felt nothing. This time, I ran a bottle I still had from last year... felt great. After three weeks I switched to a new bottle for a week to test it, benefits went away. Went back to the old one, they came back. I emailed MuscleGelz and they told me 12 pumps of the product is equal to 100mgs, which is pretty low. Might wanna look into this @Cdsnuts
One of the reasons I’ll be looking for alternatives. The Androvar looks promising.
This is my fourth cycle and I can't say I have ever felt anything dramatic from any of them. Last year I had the old stuff too and didn't do anything I could definitively point to. If we get the go ahead on the Androvar I'd definitely be willing to give that a go to switch it up.
CD would have to try it himself first in order to recommend it, and from what I remember reading, epiandro solo doesn't agree with him. Androvar recovered Bizzbee though, so that's why I want to give it a go. Entropy also ran 600mg Epi at some point. It's also very cost effective, you get the full six weeks amount of product in one bottle.
I'll definitely let the forum know about my experience if I choose to run it. Still have a bit over six weeks of herb cycling left first.
Do you have R-Andro or AndroHard? If you have R-Andro, I'd just go for it. When dosed properly these prohormones make you feel euphoric, make you strong af, make your voice deeper and just give you a "don't fuck with me" alpha feeling. Not to mention the libido increase. Of course this depends on how well your PFS is doing at the moment. Just do your PCT afterwards and you'll be fine.
If you have the AndroHard, I honestly wouldn't bother. The newer bottles seem to be ridiculously underdosed. Used to be like four pumps for 400mg and now people here seem to be doing 20 pumps per day with very little effect. Strange.
Where do you get R-andro from?
I’m doing really well. I read a bunch of English’s old posts where he talked about leaving the forums and forgetting about PFS to fully recover and getting over the PFS mindset. I feel like I’m in a similar position now.
I didn’t visit the forum for a few weeks (besides making one thread about the Blue Vervain tincture) and I felt basically recovered... I think it’s time for me to move on mentally from this whole PFS disaster and get back to normal living. I’ll visit here every couple of weeks, and of course will make a recovery post once I’m there.
Thanks to everyone who’s helped me, especially CD. I have my life back now. And to everyone who’s on the fence about trying the protocol here, just do it. It works.
I also plan on running Androvar (oral epiandro) in the future. I’ll let the forum know about my experiences.
Peace out
Congrats on getting your health back dude. Very inspiring to see the progress you've made. Make sure to leave the door open for us on the way out
All the best
Congrats on your great progress bro. Go live it up and yes please post a recovery when you've reached it! We need more stories on there for the new guys
Hi guys, its been a while.
I crashed in November 2018, started the protocol in Feb 2019 and completely recovered by April-May 2021. Doing better than ever now! Much better than pre fin.
Keep going everyone..
Excellent! Have you made a recovery post? If not, PLEASE Do. I don't ask for much here....at all, except that when you recover, you give back in the form of a recovery post.
Let's keep rackin em up guys.......
they laughed at first, and then as the recoveries grew, and grew, they simply had nothing left to laugh about. Keep grinding men....