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I have terumo syringes, 5cc. No matter what size pin I draw with, no matter what oil, these things always draw so slowly. Even with 23g. I couldn't even come close to pushing oil through with a 30g during a subq injection.
What are your recommendatons on brands? Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing... lol
Could heat it up a lil with a blow dryer. 27g slin pins were slow, but worked really well.
What oil u using???? U still gonna compete?
23 is pretty small for drawing oil IMO. 18 is what I always use. even 21s were too slow
Draw w/18, pin w/22's. Everything else is too slow for my liking. BD only, havent tried anything else.
That's crazy, I heard 21 and below could take chunks out of the rubber vial top.
Im still alive :D
but srsly, had to use a 21 once and it was a pain in the ass. 18s and be happy
You're fukin crazy. I'd never use lower than 27. So what if it takes a couple minutes. Ur ass will thank you later.
Lol you guys are crazy. Never heard of anyone using anything over 21 till now.
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To draw obviously. In with a 23
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Although apparently I pinned my right ventro glute a bit much cuz I if I push on one area it hurts and I have no bruise there whatsoever. So I couldn't imagine what a fukin 18 could do. That just seems cruel.
Lol again, I don't inject with an 18. 23 to inject. We were talking about drawing
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Maybe I'm just a bitch but 23g into shoulder was a pain. I can feel it's going to be sore for awhile.
I want to be able to do the slin pin method but not sure how to do it, what brand syringe, etc.
YouTube slin pin, it's pretty Easy
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It's a simple method. Stick the needle in the top and keep pulling back til you have the amount you want. Will it take a few minutes? Sure. But is it dam near painless? Yes.
And still. Fuk 23's....it's all bout dem 27's
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Big black white guy....u never anwsered my question. U still gonna compete?
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naaaa its about dem 28's son
Nate, I think he means back loading an insulin syringe, ie a slinQuote:
Originally Posted by nate3993
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Never not ever. But maybe.Quote:
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I draw with 21, pin with 25. Guess it depends on your oil. My source is super thin, although he does not use EO tastes like GSO.
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First time I tired a 25, I could hardly get it to push through and I moved the fn needle everywhere and tore my ass up! After that i said f it, 22's arent bad at all to me and they are quick and easy to empty.
Okay well at least I'm not alone in this BS. I think with the thinner needles you pretty need a smaller, narrower syringe to be able to get the oil out.Quote:
Originally Posted by KAB111
I believe this is the case smaller barrels equals more efficient in moving fluids thru narrow spaces. Read something somewhere about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBG
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Yeah there's something to this, I can't recall what it is. Physics wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by necropuppy
3cc BD syringes, I draw with 18g BD hypos and inject with 22g BD hypos.
I have been in the medical field for damn near 20 years and have yet to hear or see of anyone getting chucks from drawing with an 18g. I have injected well over 5,000 patients with testosterone and that is the only needle we use to draw it.
You can used a 25g BD hypo in delts if you cant handle the 22g, it will just take a little longer and a steady hand.
I heard that commies like 25s. Are you gonna be a commie? You don't love America or something?
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y'all be crazy!
Nate likes big things to poke him, huh Nate :D
Update: Success with slin pin backloading.
Never draw with anything larger than 23. It does eat the stopper and your vial will no longer be sterile.
I won't inject with anything bigger than a 25. 27 on a 3 ml is alright. 28g slin is where it's at.
The larger the barrel, the harder it is to push
I've just been loading slins with Trest Ace while watching Tv. Helps to develop patience. We'll see how long this lasts in the coming weeks, will probably change to back loading as I add another compound .
I prefer the slins for ED research.
Bd in all fields.
18g to draw, 25g to administer.
Use slins whenever I need smaller groups. I've found some makes have crappy seals of the plunger to the sides of the housing, or where the hypo attached isn't tight, I always tighten my hypos way down before doing anything.
I always used 25+ but recently looked at 23g for pinning and after your first pin you don't notice a difference. But it's much faster, which is subjective, since the cottonseed oil I use is thick as fuck, but if your oil glides easy on a 25g there's no reason not to. My 25g were taking like 1.5min per ml, which was probably causing more damage by the needle tip moving around from pushing for 1.5mins..than a 23g for 30secs would do.
Have you ever backloaded slins? It only takes about 15 seconds to inject a ml... Honestly easy to go faster than my muscle can handle. Plus they are so easy to preload and then heat before use!
No, never heard of it..I always wondered what this shit was when I heard people say it. Let me look it up. Thanks for the tip, I was always just like god my gear sucks how do these people all use slin pins lol
Ager looking it up I did use a 1ml for a while but no slin tip. Didn't think oil would go through. But I'd need a longer tip for ass shots..what do you do to circumvent that short slin tip? For a while Id just use a 1ml syringe. It cut my injection time by about 50%...but I then had to pin 3-4x a week since the barrel held less content..idk which method I liekdd more..I like less frequent pinning usually.