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The molecular weight of 4-DHEA is listed at 288. From my limited scope of knowledge I believe this is small enough to be absorbed transdermally.
If I have some 4-AD capsules could I break them down and throw them in my bottle of Trenazone to help with lethargy?
Theoretically, yes. However, it is hard to say how easily the powder dissolves in the trenazone carrier.
I have a good deal of trenazone. I guess I'll test a small sample and see if they mix. Thanks Burly
let us know how it goes!
Try to weigh the capsule to see how much the contents weighs and then compare to what's on the label..
Don't want to ruin your trenazone with a bunch of filler!
With as efficiently as the TZ carrier dissolves skin it seems perfectly capable of handling a little 4-AD. OUCH!
This! I made the mistake of putting it on my clavicles. It was worse than a phosphorous grenade burn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Bill Dwyer
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Originally Posted by Sperwer
Odd. I had no such problems. No doubt the burning is from the alcohol base, but unless the skin was raw from something else, I can't see why the effects were so pronounced.
I don't know. The alcohol in testogel does not have the same effect. No pre-existing condition. It just burned the skin off in a couple of days. Took 2-3 weeks to heal, first week itched like hell and the scabs broke just from rubbing my t-shirt. Nasty weep too.Quote:
Originally Posted by burlyman30
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Whoa! That's nuts! Wondering if the formula was changed in any way since I used it. Or maybe my skin is made of leather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sperwer
I was swimming in TZ with the doses I ran but I'm old and leathery ! LOL
I just had a little redness but no burn or scaling.
Are you injured ? Is your skin clean on clavicles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sperwer
Everything eventually cleared up, and it's all good now; no lasting damage, except to my Capt America rep. ,)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack O'Neill
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There is def. filler present. Would I need to do some sort of alcohol extraction type thing then?Quote:
Originally Posted by weekend
Anybody got any tips as to how I might go about doing this?
I think it would be easiest to start with raw 4-dhea.
yeah, order the raws to avoid the fillers.
Yeah it would but I have a bottle already and was just thinking of an easy way to increase the bioavailability. If it's too much hassle I'll just munch emQuote:
Originally Posted by xxiv
Take it with some sort of Primordial product with your stuff now. I know when I take AHV1 or any of the V2 or v3 products along side an oral, I felt things were really kicked up a notch!Quote:
Originally Posted by campcoll88
glass of grapefruit juice. that's gonna be your best betQuote:
Originally Posted by campcoll88
6 weeks of 1.5 ml on the clavs, not one issue. And I have sensitive skin becasue I'm a girly man .....Quote:
Originally Posted by burlyman30
Will test it for the next weeks on neck and clavsQuote:
Originally Posted by pitboss
That's a bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by nate3993
^^^^^ And that's a bad post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Right Hook
Why? We have gone over this a couple times here. It's silly to continue to ignore science.Quote:
Originally Posted by markam
I was under the impression that your opinion was disagreed with by many, but whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Right Hook
The post was bad because you didn't give any proof to back up your opinion.
I dont recall anyone even disputing it. The only valid argument was anecdotal "well I got gains", which may be true but I suspect its simply because naringenin isn't a complete inhibitor of conversion enzymes.Quote:
Originally Posted by markam
I think OP should stick to his original plan for the best results.
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Originally Posted by Right Hook
Couple things. What made the androseries so well absorbed? Gfj. And there are many, many things in GFJ besides naringen that may be contributing to increased absorption. Andromass v3 had 4DHEA. That was the mass part of it.
GFJ works. I know you've said this before, but no matter what, the Androseries was backed up by just a lil bit of science.
No it was not the gfj. It was the Esterfied hormone. Increasing bioavailability is useless if plasma and target tissue conversion enzymes are depleted. Which are necessary for anabolic action.Quote:
Originally Posted by nate3993
Haha. Bioavailability doesn't have much to do with it? So it's the ester huh? Well. Test has an ester. Maybe I should just drink a vial of T.
I think you should pick up a pharmacology book.Quote:
Originally Posted by nate3993
You don't have to drink a vial of test. Just take andriol.
sigh. imma just take the high road. i love you. MUAH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Right Hook
realize there's probably several times as much filler in each cap than there is actual 4-DHEA...using powders from the caps isn't going to work well.