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What's left out there right now?
Base nitrogen boosters:
Dermacrine, Epiandrosterone, 4-DHEA
AIs:
Sustain Alpha, maybe the compound in Erase (but I don't think it's very effective at reducing estrogen), RES 100
Others:
Ostarine (SARM, but safe difference basically)
11kt
11oxo
Talking legal options here.
Not a whole lot that has any sort of history..I'm a little worried for what comes out next..stronger than Supedrol and more poisonous too? Like cmonnn
Well the issue is that nothing new will probably come out. Remember, the law blanketly prohibits the sale of any aas. Not just the compounds listed.
That's about it. Get TRT, leave the usa, or go illegal are the only sensible options for your body
I understood all of those to be Nitrogen Boosters.
Another one is 11kt
Point taken and changed topic around. Adding 11oxo/ktQuote:
Originally Posted by northcutt
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There is a progestin based nitrogen booster. I'm not too familiar with them though and hesitant to touch it.
Is there any 11kt around? Been looking
androenhance available at predator nutrition
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Originally Posted by weekend
shit expensive though isnt it?
$80Quote:
Originally Posted by Enuke65
Not terrible haha
Not great , I loved that stuff
Never got a chance to run it. Would it do anything run solo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank!
It gave you an almost-overnight fullness and vascularity. It was a very nice volumizer. I wish I'd have bought two tubes of it. Although it smelled like tequila and gave you snake skin at the application site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
As for the other nitrogen boosters available, I wouldn't wipe my ass with 1-Andro because of the crippling lethargy and I've found oral 4DHEA to do next to nothing.
Epiandro, however, yeah, keep it coming!
I think doesn't Platinum Neutriceuticals (company that has ANDRO300 TD) have an 11xo product?? maybe I am wrong??
Either way, there are some brand new Nitrogen Boosters coming out from Iron Mag labs.
Super-DMZ Rx 4.0
Super 1-Andro Rx
Super 4-Andro Rx
Super Epi-Andro Rx
Super Nor-Andro Rx
7-Keto DHEA Rx
Full details will follow when I have them :)
Can't wait!Quote:
Originally Posted by WesleyInman
Super Epi-Andro?! Woohoo! wait, is super better then ultra? I can't remember.
:p
Heck yeah! Can't wait!!Quote:
Originally Posted by WesleyInman
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I seem to remember a few of these tubes stored in a box somewhere. Hmmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by weekend
Buried I'm sure.
pop 8 4-ad a day and then tell me it doesn't work.....only problem is...you need 8 a day....soooooooo..yeah. fuk that part hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Freepressright
it did make me hornier than anything I've ever tried i must say. would wake up every night with the gnarliest boners.....shit was kinda impressive in that sense haha
I used a couple of different AMS versions and didn't get jack shit from them. Of course I never dosed them at 8 a day. Who the hell could afford to?Quote:
Originally Posted by nate3993
Well..I ran Andromass at 12 a day and got great results. Idk how that compares with 8 caps of AMS version..but that, and 8 caps of Androhard was my first cycle and to this day I still have the stretch marks in my armpit chest area
provides a mild test base while inhibiting the negative effects of cortisol ,It helps me lean up, definitely improves my rate of fat loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
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Originally Posted by tallstraw
This right here was my first love and wow. I felt great and grew well recovered great and I was hooked after that.
Bought like 20 bottles of each after LOL. I had a good hook up .
I think that's where a lot of PP loyalty came from. Products that changed people's lives because they did exactly what they promoted.
That was the case with me for sure. AH v1 and a whole new world opened up to me. Running my very last box of AM this summer.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucks
Yeah man... the Androseries was the shit.
I still think something like dermacrine but with 4-dhea would be awesome (basically Androenhance but with the extras from dermacrine like pregnenolone). It must just be very cost prohibitive.
Agreed 100%. I still don't understand why I've never seen a 4-dhea topical.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBG
Seems to me I read somewhere that Platinum Nutraceuticals maybe coming out with a topical 4-DHEA and/or topical 1-DHEA product in the future; can't remember where I saw that, maybe just wishful thinking. Just thrilled we got a topical Epiandro already from them!Quote:
Originally Posted by testosteronet
For such a mild compound it did a remarkably large job when it comes to muscle building. Granted I was at like 1.5 the dosage and at 1 point double the dosage with a full or 1.5 dose of Androhard accompanying it. But outside of a temper, I had no issues from it and got many benefits like the stretch marks you can still see today.
Was it v2 or v3? I gained more muscle mass on AMv2 than any other product I've ran. Granted it was fairly early in the PH game for me but I had been lifting consistently for several years natty and had a good base to start from. The lethargy was pretty bad but ceased fairly quick during PCT and given the cost/benefit ratio it was worth it, for me at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by tallstraw
V3, Id come just when v2 was running out and they went back to the drawing board for v3 and then waited months for it to come out. Luckily I would get mine with a great discount lol..so I could run it like that. I had no problems with lethargy or anything from v3. Erik really nailed it with that formula to be honest. It was a phenomenal product. That was also my second run now that I think about it. I had. 4week run of Tbol from them before I deployed. I ran the AndroMass and hard while I was deployed. So they were still newbie gains, but not my noobiest gainz.
Gees come to think of it I've been around since I was like 19-20 on PP..fuck
Just picked up a bottle of the Enhance. I'm going to add it to my summer cycle. I want to at least try it before it disappears completely.
Since I was 16, 17 I've been around PP. 17 was when I started my superdrone cycle and now I'm 22...fuuuuuuk
i paid 12 bucks a bottle......so it was cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by Freepressright
i haven't used it, only issue is potential skin irritation ive heard. i will be moisturizing at night after morning application when i use mineQuote:
Originally Posted by Cdsnuts
having used 11oxo and xikt, i think 11kt is probably the most aesthetic-physique-producing non methyl PH that ever existed
Even better than high doses furaza or high dosed Formestane?
Skin issues were not too bad when I used it for myself. Worse it got was redness.
I've never used 11kt...I wish it'd return.Quote:
Originally Posted by weekend