Antaeus reps what's the story on Nanodrol? Has there been a beta tester? Is it transdermal ?
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Antaeus reps what's the story on Nanodrol? Has there been a beta tester? Is it transdermal ?
Metylstenbolone nanoparticles
15mg/ml
30ml bottle
Transdermal
The sequel to Ultradrol
Nano-particulated Ultradrol for faster and more explosive gains
Exclusively available via Predator Nutrition
Much stronger than Methyl-Stenbelone
Batch tested for potency
Antaeus Labs Nanodrol - Buy Online, Reviews, Deals
Looks sexy.
"It is completely exclusive to Predator, worldwide."
That sucks!!! :mad:
When does this become available in the US? And seeing as this is a much more efficient UD clone, does that mean you need less of it and would thereby have less sides?
Inquiring minds wanna know! :)
It will not come across the sea because it's probably not legal to sell over here ;)
It is 100% legal to sell in the U.K. though!
Is it topical?
It's oral.
Like I said, it's probably illegal to sell methylsten over here in the states. We no longer sell it, nor did we ever sell it while it may have been illegal.
I can see that. VATs and other taxes are killer for importing products.
I don't see myself using the product, as good as it sounds. I was not a raving fan of UD. It was "ok", but like SD, it loves carbs and I eat pretty low carb. Any time I upped my carbs, I would expand like a balloon, but I'm not interested in glycogen retention as much as building actual tissue. Granted, I ran my doses low, 8-12mg, so that may have been a factor.
I'm in the U.K. and have used Predator numerous times and customer service is very good.
Some other things Burly wouldn't be interested in:
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And for FPR;
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Also:
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Does anyone actually keep their gains from ultradrol ? The new delivery is great but how is the muscle retention?
I'm moving to the UK!!!! :D Are the chicks hot?
Muscle retention just depends on how well you manipulate training/nutrition during PCT, along with how quickly you can recover endogenous hormone production.
"Probably illegal" is playing it safe, but I presume that the "probably" part stems from the fact that methylsten is synthesized from SD and may contain enough trace amounts of it to test positive for SD.
One must decide if it's worth the risk of importing it. Since methylsten isn't technically a banned compound, I'd probably gamble with it. But I wouldn't advise anyone else to do anything.
I'm wondering how long could you store Nanodrol; I'm guessing that Ultradrol might be better if you are going to stash it away for a few years+.
From the Nanodrol blurb; Note: Particles may agglomerate over time. Keep bottles refrigerated when not in use, and keep away from sunlight.
So once particles agglomerate, would shaking the bottle be enough to return them to their former state?
I think I just agglomerated
100% will never, ever, without a shred of doubt be sold in the states.
The muscle retention is 100% left up to the person who takes the product. It's a product that is going to pack on a lot of muscle, it's up to the consumer to keep it. Just like every other product out there.
Do you want to know why I think most SD/UD users, and users of other "4 week and get huge" products generally don't retain muscle mass? They are the instant gratification guys. In PCT, they suddenly see a loss of water weight, some strength gains gone, obviously not as motivated to go to the gym, etc. So everything drops off until they can run something again.
That's why SD/UD/M1T/Phera all have bad raps with muscle retention. If you take 4 weeks of Epistane/Hdrol/Avar/Tbol/Anything, you simply won't retain as much muscle in PCT/after PCT as if you take SD/UD/Nanodrol. The latter puts on way more muscle in a shorter period of time, it's just up to you the person to maintain intensity in the gym and the kitchen.
Well I give it a try if I can get it. I'll give my point of view I plan on running a cycle in February 2013
^i'd also say with M1T/SD/WHATEVER BUILD MUSCLE FAST, you will also loose your size very fast. as stated, a lot of gains on these can be from water retention, but also, you just put on a ton of size very fast, what's your body's first instinct? get it the fuck off. even iwth added calories, it's hard to retain gains from these. the slower and steadier the gains come, ie andro series, the easier and more permanent the gains will be. honestly, i feel like these super mass builders just suck over all. in terms of potential sides, how one fukin dose shuts you down, and how u can only run em for like 4 weeks just doesn't make em worth it overall. but to each his own.
If I were still dancing with methyls, it would be fun to grab some of this Nanodrol, but at $80 USD per bottle, it just isn't feasible.
Just ordered 2 gel Dermacrines. Maybe as they are being sold by BPS they may continue to exist, but I'd guess that PP still manufactured them and did a deal with BPS. Still, I doubt Dermacrine will cease to exist for long, it might not be a huge seller, but I reckon there will always be a market for it.
Re Nanodrol, I find Mechabol a much more attractive compound; it can be run longer and is much less toxic. Running a methyl is not exactly the healthiest thing to do, but running a dimethyl? No thanks.
At the end of the day, methyl versus dimethyl, you can't stand on solid scientific ground saying one is measurably worse than the other. Caffeine, if I'm not mistaken, is a dimethyl compound.
None of it is 'good' for you. It's just a matter of running it responsibly and taking precautions to minimize damage. This is an adults only, no rules/no guarantees kind of game no matter which way the hammer falls.
Well unless I've got things very wrong, Ultradrol is more a lot more hepatoxic than Mechabol, but each to his own. Obviously any methyl needs proper supports such as Tudca etc, but if I was going to choose between stuff like SD or AAS, AAS would arguably be a 'healthier' choice. Whatever, each to his own, no argument.
What we know about how more or less toxic some of these methyls are from one another is really conjecture. Some people say Epi is mild, while others would contend it is far more toxic than what folks will give it credit. There is no reliable metric in this case.
One can surmise UD is less toxic than SD and M1T because it has less sides, but that's all bro-science at the end of the day. Again, none of it is 'good' for you and you're taking a risk no matter what.
There is no real scientific ground to stand upon with the assertion that UD is "a lot more hepatoxic" than Mechabol. In fact, we've seen some folks who ran a conservative dose of UD with protectants whose bloodwork showed little to no disruption. Then we saw the guy who ran it at 16mg ED with no liver protection and his enzymes are elevated.
Again, there is no real measurement to say one way or the other as a blanket statement.
I'll just post this for the ill-informed. Obviously I'm not referring to you, FPR, I just don't want some 19 yr old thinking Ultradrol can be taken without the appropriate respect. Last word on this. (From me, anyway, LOL.)
The Methylstenbolone/Ultradrol Pro-hormone Supplement Blog.
Methylstenbolone, like all methylated DS/PHs, is toxic to the liver. Methylsten is more potent than many other PHs (epi, hdrol, m14ad, etc) because it is a di-methyl androgen resistant of typical metabolic deactivating pathways, like 3b-hsd and 17b-hsd. Being one of the harshest compounds on the market it will negatively impact blood pressure, lipid values, cholesterol levels and will put stress on the bodies endocrine system.