Nasser El Sonbaty has died.

News on this has been all over MD today, but I can't seem to find anything official. Figured I would let you guys know. If this turns out to be a rumor I will delete the thread.

Very sad. Hope it's only a rumor.

I saw this on FB. Apparently, Levrone posted this as well.

This is just sad, I mean these guys are supposed to be the pinnacle of health, and over the last year a few of them have died. I assume because of genetic causes, I would hope that they didn't compromise there health that much for a competition.

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Originally Posted by Eden

This is just sad, I mean these guys are supposed to be the pinnacle of health, and over the last year a few of them have died. I assume because of genetic causes, I would hope that they didn't compromise there health that much for a competition.

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You're not really that naive, are you? Of course copious amounts of AAS, GH, slin, diuretics, opiates, etc. are going to drastically shorten the lifespan.

Yes I realize that most of the things they take aren't terribly good for health but I wouldn't say I'm naive, the word you seem to have wanted to use it retarded. People do things that are much more horrible for their health, I mean eating processed foods, and smoking probably have a higher affinity for shortening life span than AAS, gh, slin, and diuretics. I do agree that opiates aren't very good, but I wasn't trying to speak on those. I am trying to say that when most of these guys are looked at it's usually some kind of heart fault or genetic cause, of course using AAS ETC is bad for your health, but much worse things are used for much longer periods, and those people are still walking around.

your last comment sums it up
pro level aas usage is bad and can cut decades off ones life

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Originally Posted by Rodja

You're not really that naive, are you? Of course copious amounts of AAS, GH, slin, diuretics, opiates, etc. are going to drastically shorten the lifespan.

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Considering he was rumored to be GH-15, he advocated fairly heavy usage of EVERYTHING.

npc level competitor some of us know, told me hes never gone to the doc, and is afraid what theyd say

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Originally Posted by Eden

Yes I realize that most of the things they take aren't terribly good for health but I wouldn't say I'm naive, the word you seem to have wanted to use it retarded. People do things that are much more horrible for their health, I mean eating processed foods, and smoking probably have a higher affinity for shortening life span than AAS, gh, slin, and diuretics. I do agree that opiates aren't very good, but I wasn't trying to speak on those. I am trying to say that when most of these guys are looked at it's usually some kind of heart fault or genetic cause, of course using AAS ETC is bad for your health, but much worse things are used for much longer periods, and those people are still walking around.

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Comparing Taco Bell to the cocktail used by pros is retarded. It's reported that he died of kidney failure, which directly points to diuretic abuse.

You having a bad day Rodja, or are you rude all the time, I was just trying to communicate my point of view, if it was wrong fine, that doesn't bother me, but I didn't come here to squabble with you. I don't understand what I did to provoke the response you're giving me. If I did something to offend you I'm sorry.

I'm not offended; it's just odd that you seem to have some denial about the amount of shit that the pros ingest having any causation with an early death. He's had health, specifically kidney issues, for years and he's not the only prominent BBer from the 90's to die or have a major health crisis (e.g. Flex, DeMayo, Matarazzo, etc.).

I didn't imply, or intend to imply that what he didn't have an effect on his health, but it is my personal opinion that the things he did are over exaggerated in his cause of death. I am aware that what he did was dangerous, but my intention was that we all do things that impact our health. When I see the same amount of outcry when a normal person dies bitching at mcdonalds, as I do when a bber dies at steroids then I might change my stance. There seems to be a double standard of blaming Steroids, and the "chemical cocktail" they take, yet a blind eye is turned when an average person dies of a chemical cocktail of synthetic chemicals, and foods totally unnatural to humans that they consume.

http://www.soldeosa.com/editorial/images/redherring.jpg

To get a better idea, even the Golden Era dudes had heart problems just from long term d-bol use. Arnold eventually had to get two heart surgeries didn't he?

i've heard kidney failure, i've heard malaria. both are not confirmed. considering he lived in CA though, malaria seems like a stretch.

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Originally Posted by DJM

npc level competitor some of us know, told me hes never gone to the doc, and is afraid what theyd say

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Matt?

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Originally Posted by weekend

Matt?

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didn't even think about him. i assume your right though

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Originally Posted by anab0lix

To get a better idea, even the Golden Era dudes had heart problems just from long term d-bol use. Arnold eventually had to get two heart surgeries didn't he?

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That one is reported to be congenital. Most of them, though, have lived long lives and are still alive today. It wasn't until GH/slin and diuretics came into play that shit got really dangerous.

RIP Nasser, and god be with you and your family.

I met Nasser one year and we got along real great, I even was telling about an article he wrote, about hating the weights.. He really dug that. Years later at the Emerald Cup, he still remembered my name. Great guy, great competitor and he will be missed.