Who's running it? Got mine today.
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Who's running it? Got mine today.
Haven't ordered any yet, but plan on running this stacked with dermacrine later this spring.
Got mine today 👍.
Hey CD,
How much strength/muscle mass/fat burn do you feel you keep from each cycle?
Just curious because I haven't run any DHT compound since August and also had to take a break from working out, almost 2.5 months now. Aside from a little more fat accumulation, I'm at around 15.5% now versus 13.5% in August, not much has changed for me.
It seems like these DHT runs have long lasting effects on body composition. Lets call them "sticky gains" :)
I'm not touching any PH for a while until I get my hormones normalized. I'll have the most recent labs soon. Feeling better in general.
I feel like this is an impossible question to answer. I would say that if all things stay the same, training, diet, stress levels, sleep, etc, you do keep some of the gains, for sure. How much, tough to say. Now if any of those other variables change after the cycle, forget it.
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I'm gonna start this tomorrow and see how it treats me. Hopefully it really is the same stuff as AHv1. If it is, I'll be a happy camper. If it's not, I'll know relatively quickly.
I was going to wait, but I think I'll have to start tomorrow, too. Way too much pressure staring at me. You have a dosing plan yet, CD? AH V2 was 300-600mg per day. This recommends 100-200mg per day.
I'm going to do 200/day, split into two doses to start. I only purchased one bottle to make sure it hits me the way I want it to. Learned that the hard way with other DHT based phs. I'll know in a week or less if that's the case. If it's working for me, I'll buy another bottle and run it for 8 weeks. I'm really hoping this compares to v1. For some reason I'm doubting it though. I hope I'm incorrect. It's just that nothing so far has compared to PP's stuff.
I think you mean you're hoping it compares to V2, right? V1 had androsterone listed but was really epiandrosterone.
I believe you are the one that dislikes epiandrosterone, right?
I'm going to run 100mg Super-r-Andro with 100mg Super Epi Andro, increasing in a 1 to 1 basis. So, 200-200, 300-300, etc.
Hate to burst a bubble, but Eric later clarified that the label was incorrect on V1. It was epiandrosterone not androsterone in V1. I liked V2 and V3 and almost every epiandrosterone product on market with PA's E-Spray being #1. I've since replicated the exact product with stronger dosage. I've tried almost all that's came to market when it comes to epiandrosterone and androsterone. If you hated V2, I'm not sure you'll like this one, but who knows. Let us know.
It was marketed that way because that's what was on the label of V1 and it wasn't esterified, but the label was incorrect. I've yet to see an unesterified androsterone on the market. I know So-Cal's working on it.
I'd classify this new product as a replica of V2.
This is the same compound as Androhard V2 or the first version of the Androseries.
I get little from Epiandro, or it is not as pronounced for me as others describe, or I just haven't super dosed high enough.
Androhard V2 shredded me up, dryed me out, and put some mass on me. I don not recall if it caused lethargy or not. It wasn't on my radar at the time.
Erection quality does not seem to change on either isomer, but then again my manhood is fuctioning the best in years right now, compared to then.
I believe Eric had it right with a proper ratio balance of both isomers, with a higher dose of epiandro to combat the possible side effects of Androsterone. IE: Lethargy and possible libido loss(if I remember correctly).
I will probably run:
Epiandro Td: 200mg
Alpha Stano: 450mg
Alpha Andro: 100mg when this is released.
R-Andro: ?? Depending on reviews/raws testing but kept lower than the epi.
Depending on how that goes, this may be my last shot at Epiandro.
Then what exactly was the difference between v1 and v2? Because it couldn't have been the same thing in each one.
And what is the big difference with this new product then if it's just epiandro???
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V1 was Epiandrosterone but was mislabeled on the bottle as Androsterone. V2 was strictly Androsterone. V3 was a mix of both isomers favoring Epiandro.
Again, V1 labeled androsterone but was actually non-esterified epiandrosterone according to Eric. A label error.
V2 was 100mg esterified androsterone which is what this new product is.
V3 was a combo of esterified epiandrosterone and esterified androsterone. 1st batch was 125/75. Second batch was 167/33.
The ideal situation, really is to stack them. Androsterone for its ability to put on lean mass, Epiandro for its energy, and both will harden you up.
V1 was epiandrosterone. This product is androsterone. Their Epiandro RX was supposed to compare to AH V1.
This is what I don't understand. How could I love v1 when it was epiandro when I've HATED every other epiandro product I've ever tried. I also couldn't tolerate v2, which was androsterone. V3 was a combo of them both and I loved that one as well? Something's not adding up here. If this new one is anything like v2, then I made the right move by only purchasing one bottle because I'm going to hate it.
I will also add that PA has yet to see legit androsterone on the market, so until I hear him say it's legit androsterone, I'm not 100% sure of product claims.
Stack with epiandro or maybe dermacrine. Or run it solo and see how you feel.
It had to be the delivery system in V1 that really made the difference.
I have not been impressed by Iron Mag Labs delivery system, or choice to use underdosed actives, so ive never purchased.
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That is because IML uses a low dose of Epiandro and a lackluser delivery system. Androhard was properly dosed with an advanced delivry system all three times.
Ill find out in the next couple days.....I don't have high hopes. PP set the bar too high and nobody's Come close since
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He can't get into the Epi game, it's illegal over there. He did teach me how to add to the carrier as it can hold a lot more, however, not sure I'd want to add it with Res100. It is a process of heating and cooling, though. Empty SEDDS would be great. I'd probably still prefer it in PA's topical carrier, though.
So because of this conversation, I'm going to wait on this. I have a busy week coming up and I don't want to be feeling shitty, lethargic with a tanked libido on Monday. I'll wait for some feedback first. Please keep this thread posted!