Timing of Supplements

I’m doing well. I’m just curious on when do you guys take your supplements.. (DHT prohormones, Herbs, vitamins, minerals)

For me it looks like this.. I’m on cycle though.

AM:
-2 r Andro pills
-****** 2 Vit D capsules, 2 Chlorella, Magnesium, B Complex, Niacinamide
- I wash all these capsules down with powdered potassium chloride, it’s disgusting.

An hour before working out (around 3 pm)
-1 r Andro pill ( wash it down with green smoothie + spirulina )

-Immediately after working out take 1 Andro pill

-When I get home I use the Fat Burning OnlyProtein shake with the Great Lakes Collagen mixed in there.

If I’m off cycle, I take 3 sometimes 4 doses of whatever herb I have on rotation with Pine Pollen spread out through the day.. (morning, noon, before workout, after workout)

other stuff : Thor’s Hammer before sex as a Shotgun approach, whenever need be..

The REAL question is.. is the morning a good time to take the vitamins and minerals? (Labeled ****)

Or should I take all these things after my lifting sessions, the theory is all that stuff helps recovery after a workout better.. I actually take all the vitamins and minerals after I bust nuts. Every time I cum I think I’m shooting out nutrients, so I take them back in lol.. it’s just me being OCD.

Not a big deal, just picking brains on when’s the BEST time to take certain things..

Also, get out in the sun, it’s enhancing my mood & makes the whole protocol better. I feel good man






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Originally Posted by RickTheRuler

I’m doing well. I’m just curious on when do you guys take your supplements.. (DHT prohormones, Herbs, vitamins, minerals)

For me it looks like this.. I’m on cycle though.

AM:
-2 r Andro pills
-****** 2 Vit D capsules, 2 Chlorella, Magnesium, B Complex, Niacinamide
- I wash all these capsules down with powdered potassium chloride, it’s disgusting.

An hour before working out (around 3 pm)
-1 r Andro pill ( wash it down with green smoothie + spirulina )

-Immediately after working out take 1 Andro pill

-When I get home I use the Fat Burning OnlyProtein shake with the Great Lakes Collagen mixed in there.

If I’m off cycle, I take 3 sometimes 4 doses of whatever herb I have on rotation with Pine Pollen spread out through the day.. (morning, noon, before workout, after workout)

other stuff : Thor’s Hammer before sex as a Shotgun approach, whenever need be..

The REAL question is.. is the morning a good time to take the vitamins and minerals? (Labeled ****)

Or should I take all these things after my lifting sessions, the theory is all that stuff helps recovery after a workout better.. I actually take all the vitamins and minerals after I bust nuts. Every time I cum I think I’m shooting out nutrients, so I take them back in lol.. it’s just me being OCD.

Not a big deal, just picking brains on when’s the BEST time to take certain things..

Also, get out in the sun, it’s enhancing my mood & makes the whole protocol better. I feel good man






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What you got going on is fine.

My only difference would be taking both AH caps pre-work out instead of splitting them up one pre and one post. And I always found that if I took them about 45 minutes before my workout they would give me a nice boost.

And yeah, NOW is the time in the northern hemisphere to start getting your sun. 20-30 minutes a day minimum. Do that daily and by summer you'll have a nice deep base and won't need to worry about sunscreen.

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

What you got going on is fine.

My only difference would be taking both AH caps pre-work out instead of splitting them up one pre and one post. And I always found that if I took them about 45 minutes before my workout they would give me a nice boost.

And yeah, NOW is the time in the northern hemisphere to start getting your sun. 20-30 minutes a day minimum. Do that daily and by summer you'll have a nice deep base and won't need to worry about sunscreen.

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CD you find that himalayan liver cleanser lowers effectiveness of drugs/herbs if you use it?

also ric I would just use niacinamide with herb combo cuz it's redundant to use on cycle. kinda like using tongkat ali when on testosterone

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Originally Posted by jacknap

CD you find that himalayan liver cleanser lowers effectiveness of drugs/herbs if you use it?

also ric I would just use niacinamide with herb combo cuz it's redundant to use on cycle. kinda like using tongkat ali when on testosterone

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I have not.

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

I have not.

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you know anything that's good for kidney health? I feel like that's one of my weak spots organ wise lol (I'd assume liver care is good for kidneys as well?)

is creatine bad for kidneys or it just makes blood tests look bad because they use creatine as a metric for kidney health.

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you know anything that's good for kidney health? I feel like that's one of my weak spots organ wise lol (I'd assume liver care is good for kidneys as well?)

is creatine bad for kidneys or it just makes blood tests look bad because they use creatine as a metric for kidney health.

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Curious....where is this coming from? What makes you think you have issues here?

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

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Originally Posted by Trump_1776

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

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Maybe you have to ride through it.. the body is most likely fixing things behind the scenes. Recovery is not peaches and cream. Yeah it gets better gradually but for that to happen you gotta stick through the uncomfortable moments..
I always tell myself whenever theres a change negative or positive it’s a good thing.. it means the body is reacting to the protocol, fixing itself, sorting shit out. It’s sorting out chemicals and hormones, all these affect how we feel in that moment.. so a reaction is a good thing, most of the time.

Also, you can tell the difference between a legit crash setback & just downswings.

For me every time I incorporate something new that benefits Test, HGH etc., I feel uncomfortable but then a few weeks later I feel better than ever. Your body rejects things at first & then benefits from it later in the PFS state..it’s weird.

But all that is easier said than done, that’s where the trust & sticking through it comes in, which imo is the hardest part about recovering. If it was just you getting better over time without downswings it’d be a walk in the park cause it won’t make you constantly think and doubt yourself. Even when you get better the downswings may not be so bad, maybe your a little out of it, not as horny, etc.. but it’s STILL annoying, and it still makes you question yourself and what your doing. Easy for me to explain everything till you’re in that place.

Anyway, what do you mean when you say emotional? Just a feeling of angst? Crying?

You’ve been on this longer than me.


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Originally Posted by Trump_1776

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

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It’s probably very similar to how R Andro started making me feel like shit once I recovered. I loved the stuff during PFS, now when I run it, I get maybe a week out of it before I feel like total ass.

Or that^. Simpler explanation lol.


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Yeah I get all that. I feel pretty good now. 90% consistently, I just notice when I go on certain test boosters that I get emotional most likely from aromatization. Today was my avena sativa day and it's faring well at a smaller dose. Workouts have been great.

Thanks for the input bruv.

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Yeah my DHT recovered after my 3rd cycle, and now R andro only helps at a small dose. Just strictly do herb cycling now and feel fantastic.

I can't tolerate it anymore either. Unfortunately. I think I'm going to be all natty this summer. Nothing out there does it for me anymore. I feel best cruising on the protocol. The R andro served it's purpose and I had alot of fun with it. Time for me to move on.

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Originally Posted by Trump_1776

Has anyone heard of some of the test boosters (after being on protocol for some time) actually raising test too much thus aromatizing to estrogen?
Tongkat and Avena Sativa, which originally were two pillars in my recovery, now seem to hinder me, feeling emotional, etc. Off of them, on things such as Ginko and Maca, I'm good.
Has this ever been discussed?

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Are you cycling them properly? How often are you dosing them?

When in doubt, pine pollen does a great job of flushing excess estrogen from the system. When you're feeling like this, take a big tablespoon and see how you feel in an hour.

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

Are you cycling them properly? How often are you dosing them?

When in doubt, pine pollen does a great job of flushing excess estrogen from the system. When you're feeling like this, take a big tablespoon and see how you feel in an hour.

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Twice a day. Morning and evening. The recommended dose.

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Originally Posted by Trump_1776

Twice a day. Morning and evening. The recommended dose.

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Daily? How long is your herb cycle? You shouldn't be taking either of them more then once a week

I take one herb twice a day.