Caffeine increases progesterone, pregnenolone, T, DHT, allopreg, 5AR in brain

Hormones + caffeine = great pre-workout

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

Hormones + caffeine = great pre-workout

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Really? I didn't realize the prohormones had any kind of immediate effect


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Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover

Really? I didn't realize the prohormones had any kind of immediate effect


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Absolutely. I can always feel them within a half an hour to 45 minutes after dosing.

You can't?

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Do you tend to take caffeine pills or drink coffee to get so much caffeine?


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caffeine pills from nutrabio, I would suggest using it with niacinamide or a herb

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Originally Posted by Cdsnuts

I can always feel them within a half an hour to 45 minutes after dosing

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Interesting. I don't feel noticeable boosts, just a cumulative increase as the cycle progresses.

I have been reading recently about the long term benefits of people that take testosterone.

As I understand, superhuman levels of testosterone seem to change the body in positive ways that you actually retain, even long after you've gone off cycle and your natural production is normalized.

Do these prohormones have a similar effect?


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Originally Posted by TubZy

caffeine pills from nutrabio, I would suggest using it with niacinamide or a herb

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I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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Originally Posted by DrivenToRecover

Interesting. I don't feel noticeable boosts, just a cumulative increase as the cycle progresses.

I have been reading recently about the long term benefits of people that take testosterone.

As I understand, superhuman levels of testosterone seem to change the body in positive ways that you actually retain, even long after you've gone off cycle and your natural production is normalized.

Do these prohormones have a similar effect?


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In my experience and in my opinion, yes they do. That's why they work so well to increase your Baseline during your recovery. Each time you cycle you retain some benefits from that cycle.

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I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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One of my favorite hands down

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I'm a huge fan of the caffeine & theanine stack, but I will try niacinamide as well


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Yeah, theanine works well actually. I prefer niacinamide, I like it better, but theanine works well too, increases GABA, lowers serotonin, cortisol etc.

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One of my favorite hands down

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I've taken every day for a month at this point & can't thank you enough.

Any other nootropics/ stacks you recommend?

15 years straight having taken adderall I'm definitely used to being in the zone...anything natural that gets me there is very nice


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