3gram is the sweet spot. which is 4 scoops of the scooper that con cret comes with. dj said he's used higher does than 4 and noticed no difference.
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at one time i was using:
crystal lite
400 mgs caff
10 gs creapure
20 gm bcaa, instatized
5 gm BA
cit mall
it was pretty good but a PIA to make it...i called it Placebo whenever someone asked what i was drinking..it least i got a laugh out of it if no one else did, lol