So it's here. You can buy it. Oral GH. Its essentially a peptide in that it's a ghrelin releaser...BUT it's in oral form, and has a 24/HR half life. Can buy as research or as Blackstone Labs new MK-Ultra.
Whatcha think bros???
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So it's here. You can buy it. Oral GH. Its essentially a peptide in that it's a ghrelin releaser...BUT it's in oral form, and has a 24/HR half life. Can buy as research or as Blackstone Labs new MK-Ultra.
Whatcha think bros???
Not good to have 24 hour+ sustained Gh release
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Originally Posted by BBG
It made me hungry as fuck. I was under the impression that datbtrue or whatever dudes name is found that it still retained and augmented natural pulse patterns? Sorry can't source that though. If you can pick it up for cheap I would add it to a bulk.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBG
He's officially against its use in a thread on his forum posted this month. He is now in favor of the cjc product that is a long drawn out ghrh because you can still pulse with the ghrp products.
This^ again, cjc dac works greatQuote:
Originally Posted by BBG
Interesting that WITH dac is now accepted as safe because for YEARS they said DONT DO IT! intriguing to say the least
Cjc w dac DOES WORK!
Why is it ok to use now? I am going to pick some up. What is your preferred way of using it? (I have used peps in the past).Quote:
Originally Posted by O_RYAN_007
I cycle it for 12-14 weeks. 3-5mg cjc w dac/wk (mon, wed,fri) mixed with 200mcg GHRP-2 each time I take it. I use dat's source. Dat has plenty of research describing his new ideology about using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by derekh83
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Can you post the thread BBG?Quote:
Originally Posted by BBG
I hear quite the opposite on other forums, everyone loves it.
25 hour pulse.
You could even take it every other day if you liked, many are taking it indefinitely.
3 months at the very least to see any results, so its a long haul
This past summer I tried cjc dac and loved. Sleep, recovery, injury aid, and fat lost were great. I took a low dose, twice a week for about 75 days. I have Mk-677 now and the effects are not as pronounced. I an only using 12.5mg one day and 25mg the other day for as long as it will last. The things I have noticed are increased sense of well being, slow strength increases, and better sleep (crazy dreams). The recovery aid isn't pronounced enough for me to notice. I will admit I did not research this product very much before I bought it. The price was at the f**k it level so I gave it a try.
Mk-677 gave me insane hunger, massive bloat, and restless sleep. I stopped it after two weeks.
this kinda sums up my experience with itQuote:
Originally Posted by strykers12
Do you spilt dose it or take all at once, also how much daily did you take?
I do 10mgs in the am. That dosage works well for me. I stay much fuller, and stronger all the time. When I did 20mgs I got way puffier, just like high dosed HGH does to me at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by derekh83
When I come off, I find that I am far leaner, but when I stay on MK I am puffy the entire time.
I really enjoy this item. It's 100% legit, I can tell you that. Way way cheaper then running say 1-3 iu of hgh ED. If I take it before bedtime for some odd reason I have lethargy and bad sleep issues. First thing in the am on empty stomach and I'm good to go all day.
IMR is version I have. Can't speak for any other brand.
I can't take 20mg in the morning. It makes me groggy and lethargic. 10mg in the morning or 10mg the morning and 10mg at night work for me. I sleep like a rock if I take it before bed. I can tell I have a way better body response to that dose.
While using cjc with dac my body was well rested and was awake ready to start my day at 5:45am without an alarm. It wasn't until I started spitting Mk-677 doses 10mg AM and 10mg before bed that I got the same response.
CJC with DAC feel cleaner to me for some reason. No idea why. The best way I can describe it is, lets say you are hot and sweaty and want a glass of water. CJC w/dac is a nice ice cold glass of refreshing water compared to Mk-677 which is just a glass of water. Still gets to job done and effective but just doesn't have that refreshing feeling.
I might get some IMR and compare it to the FightPharm I have.
anyone else tried or using MK677?
Made me lethargic....killed sex drive...water retention...even at 10mg eod...I think
Sleep was better? I'd rather do iPam/cjc
AND! Now that cjc w dac is regarded as safe....I'm curious to see how much more pronounced it is since I've only ever used w/o dac.
for me, the bloat was disgusting...
So since my last post I have tried MK677 again followed up with CJC W/DAC after a couple weeks off. Hands down CJC W/DAC. I can't take MK677 more that 2 days a week and at only 10mg on those days. I get terrible carpal tunnel symptoms in my shoulders and elbows if I take more then that. I also get bloated and watery. I don't think I will take it ever again. CJC w/DAC on the other hand is great. Take EGCg and Huperzine A morning and night to prolong the effects.
You just did cjc w dac? No ghrp or ipam? And egcg and huperzine prolong effects?
That is correct. I hate doing daily shots so I left out the ghrp and ipam. CJC w Dac divided into 2 shots for 500mcg a week. Huperzine A 200mcg a day divided into a morning and night dose. EGCG 400mg a day divided with the Huperzine A doses.
Huperzine A is a somatostatin inhibitor. EGCG helps transport Huperzine A to the intended receptor site.
Some of the info I followed I got from this article.
How to Effectively Mimic the Use of Growth Hormone with Peptides Fitness Portal
I have used MK677 for many months straight. A few things I noticed:
- effects start to wear off over time (especially hunger and sleep benefits)
- water retention and bloat (dose dependent)
- deep dreams almost nightmares sometimes
- joint pain and tingly hands and feet
I prefer ipamorelin and mod grf 129 stack so much cleaner and way better for fat loss.
Iīve used MK a couple of times and actually on it right now and I like it.
I do 20 mg before bed and I donīt experience no water retention as long as I keep my potassium intake in check. Some tingly hands during nights and vivid dreams is the major sides I get from it. When I increase the dosage from 20 mg a day the water comes as a river...
The big plus with it for me is recovery wise. I experience much better recovery between training sessions and work shifts (have a very physical demanding job).
I tend to get leaner on it as well even if this isnīt really a goal for me.
Dragoninho - What brand are you using? I wonder if some are better then others. I feel great the first week of MK but go down hill fast after that. It is almost like it makes my joints weak or lose. I slipped disc in my back 3 times in 3 months. Shoulder was having issues. Elbows were having issues. I know they are all mostly likely tied together. The bad part is I was not having any issues before this. Started taking it to help with recovery then the problems started coming. I kept taking it because I thought it would help. When i stopped is when the problems when away. I haven't used it for 3 months and everything has healed well and I am back to my normal lifts. I just started using cic w dac again and feel great!
I've mostly used Olympus Labs, but also used Primeval when OL was out of stock. Didn't see any big difference between them except the fact PL used a small amount of Epiandro in their.
Sounds weird what you experience I'have to say. Your symphtoms sounds like heavy overreaching sympthoms, have you started to use MK during or in the end of really heavy training blocks or anything that might have affected your experience with MK?
I was lifting really heavy at the time so that is possible. I have read that other people have experienced carpal tunnel syndrome while using MK but that is a common side effect of using GH and that can be managed by controlling your water retention.
Yes, carpal tunnel syndrome could def. be an issue. And if you just fight through that it could lead to other compensastion problems (shoulders etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by derekh83
But I've personally never experienced CTS with MK. I don't even get any big issues with water retention as long as a keep the dose around 20 mg ed and keep potassium levels in check.
But I also eat a very clean diet year around and my water fluctuations is quite rare, so I'm probably a bad modell in this case.
Did you experience any sexual improvements?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoninho
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