Quote Originally Posted by Grape Ape View Post
If your talkingng about the estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione, shit was banned quick. It gave me gyno(with lactating nips) that I'm trying to fight right now. This was back when I used PH's but didn't know what they really were, or their side effects. More or less were supps to me. Nicer to be mostly Natty these days and educated.

Saw little in size from it, and some slight strength. Ate on a typical high protein, high calorit 6 meals a day diet. Was a Spawn clone, so combined with Epi. I don't respond at all to epi however. Don't respond to dynethazine either, so PH's can be weird.

No comparison to other Tren PH's of today, but Trenazone sounds like the Dog's ballocks. I'd love to try it but live in complete fear.

If I remember correctly HTS disliked trenavar even at high doses, and loved Trenazone. Quotably his "favorite PH."
Fairly correct, with a correction on the Trenavar comment. Trenazone is awesome, very good at what it does, I was happy with it. It isn't trenbolone by any means, but it is great for an OTC available product.

Trenavar I don't dislike. I dislike the fact that you had to dose it high, and caps were really low dose. The issue is somewhat taken care of now with larger cap doses, but still expect to put in an investment for multiple bottles for a good cycle. That said, higher doses of Trenavar will give you closer to tren results, after all, it is converting to trenbolone.