Started this week. Dosage of TD 4-Andro is 300 mg/day, 200 on shoulders after morning shower and 100 in the evening on the "boys" which should yield higher absorption overall and a bit higher conversion to DHT for that specific application. I will monitor for any signs of needing a bit more DHT kick. I've ran this exact stack and method before (minus a lower Nor dosage) and never experienced any negative sides whatsoever. I do have a few bottles of R-Andro stashed away I'm saving for a future cycle that I can utilize if need be, but I don't plan to need to.