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I wouldn’t say that the protocol calls for “extreme” exercising, it’s just strength training & muscle building, 3 days per week. (Bodybuilders generally do 5 to 7 days per week. 3 days, 45 - 60 minutes each time, is not very much.) You have to ease into it. CD said to spend a month just doing isometric exercises (such as push-ups and pull-ups) before you hit the gym. When you do go to the gym, you start with light weights and work up to heavier weights over time.
If you are strong enough to get out of bed every morning and go to work or school, in my opinion you are strong enough to do a push-up. If you are strong enough to do one push up, you are strong enough to build up from there and do more and more. If you can’t do one push up, do one on your knees. If that’s too much, do wall push-ups by leaning against the wall and pushing away, until you are strong enough for knee push ups, then do those until you can do push-ups.
Build up from bench pressing the empty bar (12 kg, 25 lbs), even if you can only do 1 rep. If you’re not strong enough for that, get a spotter to help you. Over time you will get stronger, and you can add 2kg weights next week. And even more the following week. This is called “progressive resistance” and it’s how you become stronger over time. If you just try to bench press 50kg when you’re out of shape, yes, you will hurt yourself or be too sore to work out for a long time. Then you will think you have adrenal issues that make you too weak to exercise, but in reality you were overestimating your initial strength and underestimating your capacity to gain strength over time.
Women, who have almost no testosterone, can build strength and muscle. Any able-bodied PFS man can also build muscle. This has been proven many times, by the men who were dragging themselves to the gym even though they were depressed, had severe brain fog, severe digestive issues, no libido, impotent, adrenal fatigue, candida, whatever. They followed the full program, and within a few months it was no longer torture to work out, it was merely challenging.
Yes, it will be hard, and emotionally difficult at first. The first 6 weeks will make you feel worse, but this is a normal part of starting to get in shape, even if you did not have PFS. You have to push past these difficulties for the first few months, and then you will feel better and better.
The reason you are getting a lot of heat here is that this forum is different than the others. This is a forum for people who are following the CDNuts protocol, whereas the other forums are for people who are trying various chemicals, various doctor protocols, various miracle cures, megadose on this vitamin, eat massive amounts of this one food, etc. Some guys have healed by using various random methods, but then 99% of the men who try to repeat it, fail.
What is special about the CDNuts method is that it works for other guys too. But it is long term, and much harder than taking some pills or injections. If you want to experiment with other cures, you will mess up the results and progress will be very slow or not happen at all. You can’t go in 5 or 6 directions at once, pick one direction and go at it 100%.
One of the drugs that you mentioned, for restarting testosterone, is also used for chemical castration. I would not recommend playing around with such substances, even at lower doses. You can easily end up causing massive damage. Do you realize the risk? But, you own your body, and you are free to do what you want to it.
PFS is not about androgen deficiency - otherwise it would be cured when androgens are balanced through drugs. Over many years, many have tried, and I do not remember reading about anyone who was cured by TRT, HCG, clomid, arimedex, etc. The cause of PFS is reduced androgen sensitivity.
With PFS the body (brain and genitals) no longer respond normally to DHT and possibly also testosterone, possibly also some other neurosteroids that are affected by finasteride and similar drugs. The protocol addresses this over time, where sensitivity is slowly restored, but it is a gradual process where progress happens over many months, with ups and downs, but an overall upward trend. If you leave out the exercises and eat some junk food sometimes, you’re not doing the program and you shouldn’t expect the results of the program.
If someone wants to try to be cured through testosterone injections, HCG, SSRIs, etc, let them go to PH. That is a website filled with people attempting those methods. Or let them wait 20 - 30 years to see if the PFS Foundation is able to discover a miracle cure (but, by then, how old will you be?)
This forum is for people who have chosen to follow this particular protocol. We don’t want it to turn into a second PH, and that is why you are getting such a negative reaction. I hope that whatever methods you choose work, and that you are fully healed in the future. But, this is not the forum for those other methods you are talking about.
Originally Posted by LetsGo
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