Nanodrol / Trenazone - 4 weeks cycle

[Jack O'Neill]

tren is known for its strength giving properties... i got very little strength from Ultra/nano, though.

I'm on the 4th week of tren and want to take it up to 6 weeks if no side effects. Strength will certainly appear soon

[Jack O'Neill]

Day 30

First part of my cycle finished. I took my last dose of Nanodrol yesterday and started 11-oxo and Dermacrine yesterday too.

400mg 11-oxo
5 pumps of Dermacrine

Difficult to find free clean part of my body after applying Tren and Dermacrine

Stats this morning

Weight : 95.5kg / 210.1lbs (+4.5kg/+10lbs)
Waist : 88.5cm / 34.9' (+1.5cm/+0.6')
BF : 14.1% (+0.1%) - But it doesn't reflect reality - Sure. I would say 15% (+1%)
BP : 140/90 this morning. A bit too high - I must check it each morning to be sure

No side effects reported excepted a bit of fat gained ;-)
No headaches at all but I must sleep strongly and longest as possible to rest a maximum.

As far as strength is concerned, after nanodrol, I can say that I felt a big difference for my shoulders, my arms and especially my back ! For my back, it was magic and I had to add weight and reps for each workout !
For legs and chest, a bit increase of strength but nothing of abnormal.

Now I will see the difference without nanodrol. Tren is in the 5th week and I started Dermacrine and 11-oxo to follow the cycle.

weight followup.jpg

For the next weeks I absolutely have to remove bad carbs of my diet. Difficult to resist..... but I must to do it. Just a carb reload (about 300g) after each workout. No reload now in a OFF day. I gained too much fat these 2 last weeks and I don't want to....

[Jack O'Neill]

So I finished nano 2 days ago.

Must I continue to take Aegis 3x2caps per day?

Concerning Talos, is it required to take it during PCT too? (I take it Talos in the same time as Trenazone)

[markam]

Jake (Ataeus labs) recommends only taking Aegis while using a methylated compound, so now you've finished Nano, stop taking Aegis. Jake said it was neither beneficial or desirable to take Aegis after Nanodrol or similar.

I'd definitely continue using Talos on cycle and 3-4 weeks in PCT. Some may feel 2 weeks is enough in PCT, your call.

[Jack O'Neill]

Jake (Ataeus labs) recommends only taking Aegis while using a methylated compound, so now you've finished Nano, stop taking Aegis. Jake said it was neither beneficial or desirable to take Aegis after Nanodrol or similar.

I'd definitely continue using Talos on cycle and 3-4 weeks in PCT. Some may feel 2 weeks is enough in PCT, your call.

Thx for the feedback

[Fat Bill Dwyer]

You're still running TZ? TZ also elevates liver enzymes(IME). Although I've never heard of it causing cholestasis, I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say that it might contribute. You probably don't need Aegis, but TUDCA has a very good track record, especially around the 500mg range, so if it makes you feel better it wouldn't hurt.

[Jack O'Neill]

You're still running TZ? TZ also elevates liver enzymes(IME). Although I've never heard of it causing cholestasis, I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say that it might contribute. You probably don't need Aegis, but TUDCA has a very good track record, especially around the 500mg range, so if it makes you feel better it wouldn't hurt.

I take Talos from Antaeus Labs in the same time as Tren. I thought it was enough?

[USN HM 350Z]

You should probably be taking Aegis or Liver Lock. If you can get some UDCA, that would be primo. Both of these compounds are harsh on the liver and a TUDCA/UDCA product should be used. If you have elevated liver enzymes it can do nothing but help.

[Jack O'Neill]

You should probably be taking Aegis or Liver Lock. If you can get some UDCA, that would be primo. Both of these compounds are harsh on the liver and a TUDCA/UDCA product should be used. If you have elevated liver enzymes it can do nothing but help.

Do you know good TUDCA/UDCA product?

[USN HM 350Z]

I like both Aegis and Liver Lock. Have tried both and worked equally well. I ran liver lock while on Mech/Tren and my liver enzymes stayed within normal limits. I was really impressed as I expected them to be pretty elevated.

SoCal nutrition carries both. ID had UDCA if you wanted to go that route.